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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ82 & CZ83 CLUB => Topic started by: il.bill on July 19, 2017, 09:04:21 AM
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If anyone is looking for a CZ82, I just received e-mail notification that Classic Firearms currently has listed as in stock: CZ-82 Pistol - 9x18 caliber Surplus Very Good Condition W /2 Mags https://www.classicfirearms.com/cz-82-pistols?utm_source=instock&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=product_alert_email (https://www.classicfirearms.com/cz-82-pistols?utm_source=instock&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=product_alert_email).
I have a couple left in my own collection and I do not think I would be willing to sell one for the $319.99 price they list. You might want to take a look, especially if you have a C&R 03FFL - Classic will ship the CZ82 right to your door.
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I just checked GunBroker (have not searched there for (http://)a while) and the 'completed auctions' show CZ82s selling for $250 to $400. Apparently there are still some out there for sale. I just wanted to pass the 'In Stock' notification along to the forum members. I have not found a CZ82 for sale from any of the online sellers like AIM, J&G, Classic, Wideners, etc. for quite some time.
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At the risk of sounding like a shill for Classic Firearms...
It's been a long time since we've seen a batch of CZ-82s from a dealer. Price isn't bad considering the holster and the extra mag that's included. And, at least from the video, the condition looks pretty good. So, for those who have been looking to buy, you might want to jump on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEV7JMvRwoc
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I got the same email and actually bought one off their site before I got the email. I'll post pics and a few comments when it arrives. I've been looking for one for quite a while now. Glad I finally got one before it's too late.
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And as of today, July 20th, the Classic website shows that they're out of stock. If they're sold out, they sure went quick!
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You have to be ready to "pull the trigger" on a deal - you snooze, you lose ... or something like that
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Between the time I signed up for the notification and the vz82 coming back into stock there, I bought 2 of them from other sources (1 from SOG, 1 from Cabela's). O0
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Mine arrived from Classic and it's a beauty! It's pretty much perfect except for a few scratches on the grips. The magazines look unused.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/35396784813_da8d9281fe_c.jpg)
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Mine arrived from Classic and it's a beauty! It's pretty much perfect except for a few scratches on the grips. The magazines look unused.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/35396784813_da8d9281fe_c.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/36067148031_ff16e18b4d_c.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/36164481556_b51ac3d6a6_c.jpg)
That looks great.
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Mine arrived from Classic and it's a beauty! It's pretty much perfect except for a few scratches on the grips. The magazines look unused.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/35396784813_da8d9281fe_c.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/36067148031_ff16e18b4d_c.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/36164481556_b51ac3d6a6_c.jpg)
That looks great.
Oh yeah!
Those pictures are worthy of still another look. Very nice photography of a great looking pistol. That is the way the CZ82s looked five years ago.
My first C&R 03FFL purchase was a pair of CZ82 pistols from Widener's in June, 2012. They arrived at my front door looking like they may have been unissued. Then ... I learned a humbling lesson -
Following my usual 'used' firearm acquisition procedure, I immediately field stripped both of them to clean and lube, inside and out. Imagine my dismay when my first nearly pristine CZ82 reacted to a spray of non-chlorinated brake cleaner by having large chunks of the painted finish peel off of the slide! Ouch!
Lesson learned - you have to treat different firearm finishes (duh?) differently. The second one was more gently cleaned, very well lubed, and put away in storage to this day. I kept the white metal on the first CZ82 well oiled and took it out and shot it. It ran great and sealed my affection (with numerous handguns to choose from, I used a CZ82 to eventually shoot my 30 round Illinois concealed carry qualification test) for one of my favorite pistol designs. After a while I detail stripped that original CZ82 and used acetone to completely strip the paint off of the finish-damaged parts and 'cold blued' the steel slide / painted the alloy frame. That pistol became my 'shooter' for several years until I eventually sold it and moved another CZ82 into its place in the range rotation.
I do not mean to ramble on so, but your pictures got the memory juices flowing. I even had to dig out the remaining 'original' CZ82 Thursday and check it out. It looks very nice slathered in Lucas Gun Oil. After petting it a bit, I wrapped it loosely in its plastic bag and stuck it back into its original un-issued holster with the cleaning rod and lanyard (the second mil-surp magazine is serving on duty as a third mag for the current CZ82 'shooter' in the collection). As of this week, I am down to only three CZ82s left after trading one in on a new Cimarron SAA .45 Colt Revolver.
I guess I had better check my Brown Bear and LVE 9x18mm Makarov ammo supply (a thousand rounds of each seemed like a huge amount several years ago) since now a CZ82 will be back at the top of my range rotation for at least the next month or so.
Happy shooting to jb1911 and all!
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... I used a CZ82 to eventually shoot my 30 round Illinois concealed carry qualification test ...
I also shot my qual with the vz82. I think I was using PPU 9mm Mak (since I can't use it in the Radom P-64). It is my most common carry pistol (since the RAMI is on the table when I am running a CZ demo event).
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Looks really nice, jb1911!
I also got one from the recent batch at Classic, but my experience wasn't as good.
I received a 1988 with a nice holster, cleaning rod, lanyard, and extra mag. But despite having paid the extra $20 for "hand select", the "paint" on the slide is significantly worn on some edges, and worse is that when PW Arms applied their importer's mark, it clearly caused some paint chipping around their lettering, and there seem to be a couple of other paint chips as well. Just doesn't look great. :( I don't know what type of finish is on the slide or what my options are for refinishing it, so any advice would be most appreciated.
This is the 2nd time that I have been disappointed in what Classic delivered as "hand select." Two years ago I got another CZ82, that one from AIM Surplus and imported by CAI, and it was much nicer except for the grips, which I easily replaced.
One other observation: Before putting these 82's on sale, Classic showed a video in which they had at least 2 large crates just full of 82's - must have been several hundred. Yet they were sold out before noon on the day they went on sale, so must have been a lot of interest out there. These are great guns, so that's understandable. Must have been purchased by people who don't hang out here.
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I'm sure there was a lot of interest. I had it on "notify me when back in stock" for over 2 years by the time they actually got them in.
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Me too. That's how I first found out about them at Classic. I got the notification the night before they posted the announcement video on their web site, so that was useful.
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I noticed they were in stock the night before I got the email, I ordered one immediately. I must have got one of the first ones. That's why it's in such good shape I guess.
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I read something the other day about the finish on the 82s. It said that the last year of production, 1994, they went to a new finish on the 82s and 83s that was a huge improvement over the original finish. Mine is a '94. Maybe that's why it is in such great shape. I wish I could remember where I saw it written, but I'm 65 and have CRS.
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Once again CZ82 pistols are back in stock at Classic Firearms - just higher priced https://www.classicfirearms.com/cz-82-pistols?utm_campaign=2017-08-07_Mon+%28Qgz58R%29&utm_medium=email&_ke=c21pdGh0b24uaWxAYXR0Lm5ldA%3D%3D&utm_source=All+Email+Subscribers+%28Excluding+Suppressed%29+Segment (https://www.classicfirearms.com/cz-82-pistols?utm_campaign=2017-08-07_Mon+%28Qgz58R%29&utm_medium=email&_ke=c21pdGh0b24uaWxAYXR0Lm5ldA%3D%3D&utm_source=All+Email+Subscribers+%28Excluding+Suppressed%29+Segment) at $349.99
NOT AN ENDORSEMENT - FYI ONLY
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I noticed that, too. Probably explains why they showed at least 2 large crates full of 82's in their original video, but somehow sold out in less than 12 hours.
I've noticed that Classic often seems to "sell out" of products that they have hyped, only to "find" some more a bit later. Sometimes repeatedly.
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Maybe they use the 'first batch' to gauge response, then raise the price 8-10% after selling out and 'finding' a second batch of firearms.
Either way, CZ82 pistols in nice shape can be hard to find these days for a buyer. I am going to sell one of mine soon and am watching prices and availability with much interest!
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. There hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. Their hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
Where do you get this information from? Personal experience? I've bought a P64, a Bulgarian Makarov and a CZ82 from Classic in the last 6 months and paid for the hand select. All 3 were in shockingly, almost like new condition. Buy a new safety lever and live happily ever after.
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. Their hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
Where do you get this information from? Personal experience? I've bought a P64, a Bulgarian Makarov and a CZ82 from Classic in the last 6 months and paid for the hand select. All 3 were in shockingly, almost like new condition. Buy a new safety lever and live happily ever after.
Hand selects are strictly based on cosmetics. For example, a hand select P-64 will look like new, and have a 25 lb DA trigger pull.
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Let see I bought the CZ82 hand select and got one with tape on it and now the safety wont stay in one position. I think to make this work I will need a new little ball and then figure out how to get it in place of course the old one out first. I bought a TT57 hand select AND extra for getting the Yugo seal. The safety will cut you if you are not careful and there are marks all over the lever which would be cosmetic which is what the hand selects are based on. I also bought a Beretta 92 police trade ins and got hand select and the amount of holster wear was a lot more than expected for hand select and from the videos they showed on YouTube. Just saying and if you look on their own site there many people who feel that paying for hand select was a waste of money. And right now my personal experience remains paying for extra for hand select is a waste of money.
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I, too, have been disappointed with the condition of the "hand select" items I have received from Classic, as I reported in an earlier post in this thread. This is based on multiple experiences, and I am only addressing visual appearance.
The slide on the CZ82 that I got from them recently was pretty badly chipped, thus visually it was not very appealing although it functions fine. If mine had truly been hand selected, it must have come from an awful batch.
Worse was the Bulgarian Makarov that I got from them a while back that was from a batch they touted as being virtually unused. My hand select item came with lots of carry wear, yet several other buyers posted pictures of truly pristine guns that they got from the same batch - but without paying for hand select.
The bottom line on any "hand select" is that the buyer does not know what "their" gun is being compared against, nor do they know who is doing the comparing and how much care they are putting into the choice that they are making on your behalf. Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes not. I would rather that they did a good job of grading into categories and hen charge accordingly, instead of what seems like a lottery.
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. Their hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
Where do you get this information from? Personal experience? I've bought a P64, a Bulgarian Makarov and a CZ82 from Classic in the last 6 months and paid for the hand select. All 3 were in shockingly, almost like new condition. Buy a new safety lever and live happily ever after.
Hand selects are strictly based on cosmetics. For example, a hand select P-64 will look like new, and have a 25 lb DA trigger pull.
All P-64s have a 25 pound DA trigger pull.
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. Their hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
Where do you get this information from? Personal experience? I've bought a P64, a Bulgarian Makarov and a CZ82 from Classic in the last 6 months and paid for the hand select. All 3 were in shockingly, almost like new condition. Buy a new safety lever and live happily ever after.
Hand selects are strictly based on cosmetics. For example, a hand select P-64 will look like new, and have a 25 lb DA trigger pull.
All P-64s have a 25 pound DA trigger pull.
That's why Wolff is our friend.
I though my first P-64 was broken at first, until I pulled the hammer back manually. I'm a SA guy anyway, so was OK after I learned about this P-64 idiosyncrasy. Then I ordered and installed some new springs to mark things better. Installing them pushed me to the limits of my gunsmithing abilities with tiny things, but glad I did.
For some odd reason, the P-64 is one of those guns that I am just naturally accurate with. Tiny gun; go figure.
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Bought one last month but was delayed getting to the range and found that the recoil caused the safety to engage unintentionally. The safety just slides up and down with little resistance. I took it apart and found the steel ball out of place. I moved it back but if I engage the safety it moves back out and the safety again has no resistance to it. I moved the ball back and I will not use the safety an attempt another range trip to see if it will stay down. Anybody ever face this and have a solution. Considering using some epoxy to fix ball in place but hate to do that. I complained about this hand select and was basically told too bad and they wont help me. Their hand selects are more often than not a waste of money
Where do you get this information from? Personal experience? I've bought a P64, a Bulgarian Makarov and a CZ82 from Classic in the last 6 months and paid for the hand select. All 3 were in shockingly, almost like new condition. Buy a new safety lever and live happily ever after.
Hand selects are strictly based on cosmetics. For example, a hand select P-64 will look like new, and have a 25 lb DA trigger pull.
All P-64s have a 25 pound DA trigger pull.
The first one I bought (which actually looks used) probably only has a 20 lb DA pull (gauge doesn't go that high)
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I changed the hammer spring to an 18 and the SA pull was scary light. I didn't think it was safe so I'm staying with the 19. In a close up SD situation I'm pretty sure I can hit center mass with the DA pull.