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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Yotecallr on August 04, 2017, 09:54:02 PM
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Today I shot my PPQ and my P-10 C and the Walther shot so much better than the P-10. I don't know if I'll keep the gun or sink more money in it for a better trigger. Disappointed.
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What made it so bad?
How many rounds through each gun?
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Today I shot my PPQ and my P-10 C and the Walther shot so much better than the P-10. I don't know if I'll keep the gun or sink more money in it for a better trigger. Disappointed.
I have the P-10C, PPQ, VP9 and P320. I am impressed with the P10, although I agree that my PPQ trigger is the best. While there is a little grit in the P10c trigger it is just as good if not better than the 320 and VP9 IMHO. I do tend to think that the P10c has better recoil management than the other 3. Overall for me the PPQ is still first with P10c second
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See numerous threads about the P10C's trigger smoothing out around 500 rounds, as do most CZ pistols.
Walther makes a nice trigger; I'm very happy with my PPS. And, I didn't like my P10C much either at first, but have since warmed up to it nicely.
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I was disappointed when I tried a P10C as well. Just gonna have to wait for the PPQ 2.0
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Fan boy as I am for the P-10C, the production pistol triggers are definitely different from the early T&E demo pistols sent out in December of last year. Mine was as bad as my horrible P-07 when I first got it. But all I have done is put in a Glock 4# firing pin spring and shot it a bunch and it is pretty darn good now, with no failures to fire. (CGW hammer fixed the P-07)
I haven't done any polishing on the trigger bar or anything yet. I'm holding off for the CGW parts/instructions. I am sure we will have some excellent parts to work with late this year. Until then, the Glock spring and several hundred rounds down range is all I needed for now.
Joe
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That is why we are so lucky right now to have some many good pistol options. The PPQ clearly has a lighter trigger. I got rid of mine because the sights on top of the tapered slide seem like an after thought. The biggest issue for me with the PPQ is the muzzle rise. The pistol is accurate but when I run it fast it jumps all over the place in my hand. With the P10C I can keep the sight picture through the recoil impulse which is a big plus for me. I think I'm better with my VP9 right now so like I said we have some great options. David
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So where are all these disappointing P10c guns being sold? Loving my P10c. Wouldn't mind picking up another for a disappointing price, to the seller that is. I mean, it's used and a disappointment so I expect a discount.
PM me!
-Jason
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So where are all these disappointing P10c guns being sold? Loving my P10c. Wouldn't mind picking up another for a disappointing price, to the seller that is. I mean, it's used and a disappointment so I expect a discount.
PM me!
-Jason
Yea I've been wondering the same thing. I don't own one but have handled 3 different examples now at 2 different shops and none exhibited any of the seemingly common complaints we're seeing here.
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I guess i am the lucky one and got the only P 10 with a sub 4 1/2 LB trigger. I guess i'll have to keep my disappointing gun.
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This whole "I'm going to sign up on the CZ forums and make my first post a P-10C complaint" is getting really old. Someone who has never contributed to this website has little standing when criticizing a gun that has been widely accepted as a great pistol, for its beta release no less!
If you don't like the trigger, oh well. Sell your firearm and move on. We don't need to be made aware of your disappointment. Send me your PayPal email address and I would be happy to take it off of you. Have fun with your muzzle flipping PPQ.
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This whole "I'm going to sign up on the CZ forums and make my first post a P-10C complaint" is getting really old. Someone who has never contributed to this website has little standing when criticizing a gun that has been widely accepted as a great pistol, for its beta release no less!
If you don't like the trigger, oh well. Sell your firearm and move on. We don't need to be made aware of your disappointment. Send me your PayPal email address and I would be happy to take it off of you. Have fun with your muzzle flipping PPQ.
+1+ ^^^^^
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Maybe Armor should make a sticky like this...
" If you're disappointed in your P-10c post here. "
That way there wouldn't be 40+ threads complaining about it, there would just be one.
" quitchurbitchin" , I think that's a word in the dictionary.
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Maybe Armor should make a sticky like this...
" If you're disappointed in your P-10c post here. "
That way there wouldn't be 40+ threads complaining about it, there would just be one.
" quitchurbitchin" , I think that's a word in the dictionary.
Yea pretty good idea. We could call it the P10 drop of point. We'll give you half what you paid for your dissapointing P10 and a box of kleenex! :'( :'( :'(
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And here I'm just waiting for the S model to come out[emoji87] oh, how about a Kadet kit for the P10 while we're at it. [emoji16]
Seriously tho, if comparing the trigger to say my P01, no, it's not as good. But that would be comparing apples to tomatoes, not even in the same class. But for the most part the P10 feels like any other striker pistol I've felt. Every manufacturer has there good points and bad points. You can pick something negative about every single one.
But really, IMO, this thread is pretty much going nowhere, time to stick a fork in it, it's done.
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Maybe Armor should make a sticky like this...
" If you're disappointed in your P-10c post here. "
That way there wouldn't be 40+ threads complaining about it, there would just be one.
" quitchurbitchin" , I think that's a word in the dictionary.
Yea pretty good idea. We could call it the P10 drop of point. We'll give you half what you paid for your dissapointing P10 and a box of kleenex! :'( :'( :'(
Possible new Forum Rule :
1) No complaints about a disappointing P-10c..
2) if you're still disappointed and want to complain about your P-10c, Please revert back to rule number 1.
( these rules are for everybody and especially for those that have never posted on this forum before)
Thank you for your cooperation in this ongoing and redundant topic.
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And here I'm just waiting for the S model to come out
And I'm here waiting for the XL (one can dream, can't he!)
What gets me about alot of these posts is that it seems most people aren't cleaning their guns before shooting them. :o That used to be standard practice.
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Today I shot my PPQ and my P-10 C and the Walther shot so much better than the P-10. I don't know if I'll keep the gun or sink more money in it for a better trigger. Disappointed.
Any just for the record, I like CZ guns but I don't carry around CZ Pom-Poms.
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Today I shot my PPQ and my P-10 C and the Walther shot so much better than the P-10. I don't know if I'll keep the gun or sink more money in it for a better trigger. Disappointed.
Any just for the record, I like CZ guns but I don't carry around CZ Pom-Poms.
I don't know what Forum you belong to before. But what you're saying is kind of like going to the Buffalo Bills training camp and cheering for the Steelers.
On this forum you're going to get more cheerleaders for CZ than you are for Walther.duhh
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Any just for the record, I like CZ guns but I don't carry around CZ Pom-Poms.
Nor should you feel like you have to. The pistols were pretty heavily hyped before launch.
I AM a fanboy. When I shoot USPSA, I wear a CZ Jersey. When I shoot informal bullseye, I wear a CZ long sleeve shirt. I work at a gunstore and wear CZ hats. There are somewhere around 15 CZ's in my house, rifle and pistol. With that being said, I hate almost every CZ factory trigger. Every single one improved with rounds down range, but with a little work they are capable of being in another league all together. I tried the P10C a week before SHOT at another trade show. It was nice, but it wasn't mind blowing. I thought the same thing about the Shadow 2. It was good, but I know it is capable of being much better. ;)
When CGW and CZC get a wider selection of aftermarket parts, you won't be sorry with your P10. Even putting a few rounds down range will make a huge difference.
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And here I'm just waiting for the S model to come out
And I'm here waiting for the XL (one can dream, can't he!)
What gets me about alot of these posts is that it seems most people aren't cleaning their guns before shooting them. :o That used to be standard practice.
I'm guilty of this. I got my p10, and was fairly disappointed in the trigger weight, however I loved the feel of the trigger. Side by side it felt crisper and smoother than my ppq but my ppq was much lighter. I feel like people attribute lightness to the better trigger...which for me is not the case.
Then I went and shot 150 rounds through the p10 and cleaned it and lubed it real well after that range trip. I don't have a trigger gauge but it has to of dropped atleast a points of the weight and it's even smoother!!
Lets just say I no longer own a ppq, the p10 bleep so much nicer even before the cleaning and reduced trigger weight. The flat shooting of the p10 vs snappy barrel flipping won me over hands down
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I have no problem with the P-10C trigger. It does smooth out after around 250 rounds. Even so, it tears the 10 ring out at 25yards.
My thoughts are this. The P-10C is self defense pistol. Not a competition pistol.
I will use the P-10C for CCW shooting at the range and night stand. For this the trigger is just fine.
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And here I'm just waiting for the S model to come out
And I'm here waiting for the XL (one can dream, can't he!)
What gets me about alot of these posts is that it seems most people aren't cleaning their guns before shooting them. :o That used to be standard practice.
Lol. I made the mistake of oiling my P10 up like I do my other CZ's. Way to much oil[emoji85]. Slicked it right up, but a little messy. New to strikers, need to learn the oil points. [emoji16][emoji16]
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And here I'm just waiting for the S model to come out
And I'm here waiting for the XL (one can dream, can't he!)
What gets me about alot of these posts is that it seems most people aren't cleaning their guns before shooting them. :o That used to be standard practice.
Lol. I made the mistake of oiling my P10 up like I do my other CZ's. Way to much oil[emoji85]. Slicked it right up, but a little messy. New to strikers, need to learn the oil points. [emoji16][emoji16]
A drop down each slide rail. That's it.. grease the wear points on the internals.
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This quote is about right.
But really, IMO, this thread is pretty much going nowhere, time to stick a fork in it, it's done.
If new members come here looking for help with a problem and we are the best option to pop up on the search bar, then so be it. We understand that every made by Man can and will fail, regardless if the men and women building them are American, Czech, Chinese or Micronesian. We support new members, and only remove them if they prove to be deliberately disruptive, and we keep an open mind. If I want negative closed mindedness, I'll go back to work, and I'm working lock down again, REALLY negative environment.
So, let's try doing this again, shall we?