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Title: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on August 17, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
Just a heads up to any interested... Primary Machine is finally taking pre-orders for their CZ Stealth Comp, designed for the P-07/P-09.

Personally, I've been waiting for these for what seems like ages! ;-)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/20905846_198073970730178_5744501011595132928_n.jpg)

Press releases on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/PrimaryMachine/photos/a.116145878728697.1073741835.103223393354279/503120073364607/?type=3) and/or Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/BX6Jj4VDl6S/?taken-by=primarymachine)

Preorder HERE (http://primarymachine.com/cz-p-07-09-stealth-comp-pre-order/) ... Get them while they're HOT! :-)

I plan to T&E one ASAP and post a review...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Stuart on August 17, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Looks good. similar idea to the Springer Precision comp for the P07/P09
works with the 1/2X28 threaded barrel. cool. wish the slides werent so blended at the front so the comps would look good on them.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 17, 2017, 07:48:47 PM
Looks good. similar idea to the Springer Precision comp for the P07/P09
works with the 1/2X28 threaded barrel. cool. wish the slides werent so blended at the front so the comps would look good on them.
The profile is exact dimensions/angles as the nose of an 07/09. This way it will fit in any open ended 07/09 holster with zero issues. But yeah, working with the angles on these slides is a pain...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: SlvrDragon50 on August 17, 2017, 07:49:19 PM
Oh man... kinda sad I went with a standard P07... Oh well, I got the compact for a reason.

I'll save this for the P09 :P
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: LonChaney on August 17, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Looks good. similar idea to the Springer Precision comp for the P07/P09
works with the 1/2X28 threaded barrel. cool. wish the slides werent so blended at the front so the comps would look good on them.
The profile is exact dimensions/angles as the nose of an 07/09. This way it will fit in any open ended 07/09 holster with zero issues. But yeah, working with the angles on these slides is a pain...

What # recoil springs were used during testing?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: LonChaney on August 17, 2017, 09:45:20 PM
Oh, yeah. Looks good.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 17, 2017, 09:47:32 PM
We had no problems at all with the oem springs in an 07 and 09. We would still recommend at least going down to 15lb springs though. These guns are extremely over sprung from the factory.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on August 17, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
Is there any idea what the OAL might be with the comp on? Looks awesome, can't wait to see these out in the real world, might even snag one up myself if I can figure out some issues about New York threaded barrel bull bleep (compensators not illegal, threaded barrel that can accept a compensator on a handguns is illegal  ???  ::) )
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: jameslovesjammie on August 17, 2017, 11:33:23 PM
Steel?  9mm Major?  Has anyone successfully done a P09 SAO (with a functional safety) yet?  I would love a comp'd P series, but really don't want to do first shot DA in Open.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 18, 2017, 02:54:41 AM
It will add approximately 1.2" to the guns overall length.
We have guys shooting 10mm through our 40 cal comps. 9mm major wouldn't be an issue. If you manage to erode the baffles, which I doubt, we'll replace the comp on us. We've sold thousands of them now (for Glocks) and have not had a single one returned because it wasn't holding up.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on August 18, 2017, 03:25:13 AM
It will add approximately 1.2" to the guns overall length.
We have guys shooting 10mm through our 40 cal comps. 9mm major wouldn't be an issue. If you manage to erode the baffles, which I doubt, we'll replace the comp on us. We've sold thousands of them now (for Glocks) and have not had a single one returned because it wasn't holding up.

Awesome
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: jameslovesjammie on August 18, 2017, 09:06:18 AM
Awesome

Agreed.   8)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: LonChaney on August 18, 2017, 09:22:16 AM
Any way to get a pic of an 07 w/ the comp next to a P-09 so we can get a visual of how much of the comp might stick out the bottom of a holster?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 18, 2017, 09:33:39 AM
Any way to get a pic of an 07 w/ the comp next to a P-09 so we can get a visual of how much of the comp might stick out the bottom of a holster?
Roughly 1/2" longer than an 09 with comp on an 07. So almost nothing.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: DOC 1500 on August 18, 2017, 12:17:02 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on August 18, 2017, 12:47:21 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09

Less muzzle flip... guns with a well designed comp shoot flatter.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 18, 2017, 12:49:02 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09
You'd be amazed how much flatter 09's shoot with this comp. And that's with just 115gr target ammo. Send something hot down with some more gas to really get the comp working and you're gonna be checking the mag to make sure you're not loaded with .22lr.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: LonChaney on August 18, 2017, 01:05:29 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09

 If you have never watched a USPSA open shooter get on YouTube and search USPSA videos. The open guns are running ammo that is not safe to shoot in many non-competition guns  because it is so hot.  But if you watch the muzzle the gun hardly moves because of the comp.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 18, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09

 If you have never watched a USPSA open shooter get on YouTube and search USPSA videos. The open guns are running ammo that is not safe to shoot in many non-competition guns  because it is so hot.  But if you watch the muzzle the gun hardly moves because of the comp.
Guys are pushing 124gr 9mm at 1300+ FPS thru 09's. That's hot stuff. They're not flying apart.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on August 18, 2017, 01:13:38 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/dae555b6119f95deb2aa4a7eb54c2a98.jpeg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Sadly Missing on August 19, 2017, 11:07:05 PM
Raining Brass, will the Comp work with Minor PF loads?

If so what springs were used?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: ranastas on August 20, 2017, 12:42:37 AM
Beautiful.

Is it set screw ?


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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 20, 2017, 01:06:32 AM
We had no cycling issues using oem recoil springs with factory loaded 115 and 124 gr ammo. Just the same, we'd still recommend using 15lb springs. These guns are very over sprung from CZ. If you're shooting anything weaker than factory ammo, going down to 13 or possibly even lower probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Of course, the general idea is to give a comp as much gas as you can to work it. The weaker the anmo, the less the comp is going to do for you.

The set screws install from under the comp so it keeps a cleaner look. Red loctite for bbl threads and blue for set screws is all provided.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on August 20, 2017, 01:49:53 AM
These look awesome! Any plans on a comp for the SP-01 and Classic 75?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 20, 2017, 08:55:27 AM
These look awesome! Any plans on a comp for the SP-01 and Classic 75?
Possibly but doubt it.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on August 23, 2017, 08:55:48 AM
I see that 115g and 124 grains are mentioned,  how does it run with 147g?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on August 23, 2017, 10:11:13 AM
I see that 115g and 124 grains are mentioned,  how does it run with 147g?
I'm sure it would be fine.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 08, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
Ok so this is not my picture I "stole" it from FB and hopefully they are in this forum if they want to take credit.

But so far its the first full picture of that sweet looking Stealth Comp (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/69e429d4556e0868069cee0bd26330f2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 08, 2017, 10:08:08 AM
Anodizing is running a bit behind. Those should be shipping next week. So a lot more pics will be popping up soon. lol
Right now only customers who ordered cerakoted comps are shipping.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 08, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
Anodizing is running a bit behind. Those should be shipping next week. So a lot more pics will be popping up soon. lol
Right now only customers who ordered cerakoted comps are shipping.

Either way already looks like an awesome product,  and now that I can see it on a blaster it makes me even more mad/bummed New York doesn't allow threaded barrels on pistols
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: dave33 on September 08, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
You'd be amazed how much flatter 09's shoot with this comp. And that's with just 115gr target ammo. Send something hot down with some more gas to really get the comp working and you're gonna be checking the mag to make sure you're not loaded with .22lr.

Was this comp designed for minor or major loads?  Ive been shooting open class USPSA major 9 with my P09 for the last year and have had pretty good results with it using a Springer Precision comp, but often feel like its not the best design.  Most comps have more and bigger ports than it does, it looks like the ports on yours are a bit smaller.  Have yall tested it with major 9 ammo, and if you have how were the results?


Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 08, 2017, 03:23:51 PM
You'd be amazed how much flatter 09's shoot with this comp. And that's with just 115gr target ammo. Send something hot down with some more gas to really get the comp working and you're gonna be checking the mag to make sure you're not loaded with .22lr.

Was this comp designed for minor or major loads?  Ive been shooting open class USPSA major 9 with my P09 for the last year and have had pretty good results with it using a Springer Precision comp, but often feel like its not the best design.  Most comps have more and bigger ports than it does, it looks like the ports on yours are a bit smaller.  Have yall tested it with major 9 ammo, and if you have how were the results?
We've shot tons of stuff from 115 to 147, standard pressure all the way to +P+.
The hotter the ammo, the more work this comp does.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: dave33 on September 08, 2017, 04:23:26 PM
You'd be amazed how much flatter 09's shoot with this comp. And that's with just 115gr target ammo. Send something hot down with some more gas to really get the comp working and you're gonna be checking the mag to make sure you're not loaded with .22lr.

Was this comp designed for minor or major loads?  Ive been shooting open class USPSA major 9 with my P09 for the last year and have had pretty good results with it using a Springer Precision comp, but often feel like its not the best design.  Most comps have more and bigger ports than it does, it looks like the ports on yours are a bit smaller.  Have yall tested it with major 9 ammo, and if you have how were the results?
We've shot tons of stuff from 115 to 147, standard pressure all the way to +P+.
The hotter the ammo, the more work this comp does.

Yes, the more gas the comp has to work with the better it will do.  I'm wondering if you ran it back to back with any other comps to see how flat it will shoot.  The comp I have works well but it still isn't as efficient as it could be as I'm losing a lot of gas out of the front of the gun.  Any comp will help to a certain point, some designs work better than others for major ammo.  Was just wondering if you have shot it back to back with any others in the course of the design.  I would like to try one, but if its really designed more for minor ammo I would probably not get the results I would be looking for.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 08, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Our comp is a mini comp - it's not meant to perform like a comp 2X bigger. Therefore, we had no reason to test it against other comps that are considerably out of it's size range.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Sadly Missing on September 08, 2017, 05:41:30 PM
Eagerly awaiting my anodized comp.

After speaking with you on the phone (thanks for taking the time) I  still couldn't decide between the RMR or Deltapoint Pro.

So...I sent slides to be milled for each. 

I can't wait,  you guys do great work.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 08, 2017, 06:28:05 PM
So...I sent slides to be milled for each.

That's the spirit!! :-)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 08, 2017, 08:21:15 PM
Eagerly awaiting my anodized comp.

After speaking with you on the phone (thanks for taking the time) I  still couldn't decide between the RMR or Deltapoint Pro.

So...I sent slides to be milled for each. 

I can't wait,  you guys do great work.
Haha, that'll work!
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: jeffhughes on September 09, 2017, 01:52:12 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09


Because of the Roland Special.... 

Uber tacticool...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Sadly Missing on September 09, 2017, 07:24:29 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09


Because of the Roland Special.... 

Uber tacticool...


Not only is it Uber tacticool it's also great for gun games.

It is 2017, I'm not going to use a flintlock.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 09, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
Why put a comp on an 07 when you can just get an 09


Because of the Roland Special.... 

Uber tacticool...


Not only is it Uber tacticool it's also great for gun games.

It is 2017, I'm not going to use a flintlock.
Some people are just too fast to talk down about something they haven't tried. All I can say to people being negative is try one. Feel the difference even with just 115 gr fmj. You'll be singing another song about comps on these guns. :D
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 09, 2017, 08:45:04 PM
Because of the Roland Special.... 

Uber tacticool...

Every advantage... ;-)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 10, 2017, 07:05:42 AM
9mm guys to. 45acp dudes
"Its all about shot placement and followup shots"

9mm fuds to 9mm guys
"Why do you need a comp on a 9mm?"

Its funny when people try to act like they are uber macho and say that 9mm had zero recoil, like less than .22lr when they are fudding around saying a comp on a 9mm is pointless.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170910/e2427d630b00506f28c97f1764615b32.jpg)

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 19, 2017, 09:30:23 AM

Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/65/00/tbawYQ0R_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 19, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
So sick!
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: DOC 1500 on September 19, 2017, 10:05:18 AM
You need a double rotery 100 rnd mag.
 8)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: wisemenofgotham on September 19, 2017, 10:45:14 AM

Better pic coming tonight... ;-)


WOW WOW WOW.  I just picked up a compensator for my Sig Sauer P226 TacOps, very interested in your review.  Looks like I will be picking this up now.  Hope you're doing well  8)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 19, 2017, 11:18:01 AM

Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/65/00/tbawYQ0R_o.jpg)

Love it
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 19, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
I had the package on my desk when I got home from the range yesterday ... now I'm chomping at the bit to get back out and put this through its paces :-D

Still a little unsure what kind of contortions may be needed to clean this beast now (without removing the comp) but I couldn't be happier with the setup. I plan to "adjust" my JMCK and Safariland holsters with a heat gun this week and plan to hit the range this weekend or first of next week - can't wait!
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 19, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
I had the package on my desk when I got home from the range yesterday ... now I'm chomping at the bit to get back out and put this through its paces :-D

Still a little unsure what kind of contortions may be needed to clean this beast now (without removing the comp) but I couldn't be happier with the setup. I plan to "adjust" my JMCK and Safariland holsters with a heat gun this week and plan to hit the range this weekend or first of next week - can't wait!
You don't need to remove the comp to clean. Ever.
Simply shove the barrel through the front the slide. You can run swabs through, clean breach face...absolutely any cleaning you want to do can still be done with the comp on still.

Taking the comp off and on over and over is going to only result in stripping the set screws eventually, especially for those that don't follow instructions and use too much loctite on the set screws. haha
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: shookscustoms on September 19, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
Got mine yesterday too!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/8af037ac688ec8687179b47f1d74a535.jpg)

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 19, 2017, 01:20:03 PM
You don't need to remove the comp to clean. Ever.
Simply shove the barrel through the front the slide. You can run swabs through, clean breach face...absolutely any cleaning you want to do can still be done with the comp on still.

Taking the comp off and on over and over is going to only result in stripping the set screws eventually, especially for those that don't follow instructions and use too much loctite on the set screws. haha

Awesome - good to know :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: earlan357 on September 19, 2017, 02:19:43 PM

Better pic coming tonight... ;-)


So a Czech version is a "Roland Speci?ln?"?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 19, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)
So a Czech version is a "Roland Speci?ln?"?

Ha! Yep :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 19, 2017, 06:59:28 PM
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/b4/61/GoRY8QU2_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/e6/ba/Ic7mgmeP_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/f5/a7/WUtfMD3z_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: wisemenofgotham on September 19, 2017, 09:53:47 PM

(https://images.imgbox.com/f5/a7/WUtfMD3z_o.jpg)

Living vicariously through you, until I send my UG P07 in for a RM06  :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 19, 2017, 11:52:05 PM
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/b4/61/GoRY8QU2_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/e6/ba/Ic7mgmeP_o.jpg)

(https://images.imgbox.com/f5/a7/WUtfMD3z_o.jpg)

Sorry a bit off topic but what DG switch are you using with your surefire?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 20, 2017, 06:00:05 AM
Sorry a bit off topic but what DG switch are you using with your surefire?

The one for the S&W M&P. I think the number is DG12...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 20, 2017, 07:01:02 AM
Sorry a bit off topic but what DG switch are you using with your surefire?

The one for the S&W M&P. I think the number is DG12...

Awesome thanks

(Your blaster is on point fyi)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 20, 2017, 07:34:03 AM
Sorry a bit off topic but what DG switch are you using with your surefire?

The one for the S&W M&P. I think the number is DG12...

Awesome thanks

(Your blaster is on point fyi)

Thanks! :-)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: shookscustoms on September 20, 2017, 08:39:47 AM
I like "Czechland Special"




Better pic coming tonight... ;-)


So a Czech version is a "Roland Speci?ln?"?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 20, 2017, 09:09:16 AM
I like "Czechland Special"




Better pic coming tonight... ;-)


So a Czech version is a "Roland Speci?ln?"?

  Czechland  Speci?ln??
 
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 20, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
I like "Czechland Special"
So a Czech version is a "Roland Speci?ln?"?
Czechland  Speci?ln??

... or Speci?ln? St??le?ka ;-)

(thanks Google Translate!)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 20, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
I like "Czechland Special"
Ohh, I like that. Haha
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 20, 2017, 10:36:03 AM
Hashtags away
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on September 24, 2017, 01:35:39 AM
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)


Beautiful!

Can you tell me who can make a holster for this setup comp+light (minus the red dot as I'm still not sure if I even want one).

Cheers
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 24, 2017, 08:14:46 AM
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)


Beautiful!

Can you tell me who can make a holster for this setup comp+light (minus the red dot as I'm still not sure if I even want one).

Cheers

All of my concealment holsters are from JM Custom Kydex... I ordered them as P-09 holsters with support for the Surefire X300 + DG switch. This was long before the comp was a thing so they are just a hair too short for use with the comp but a little attention with a heat gun should work around that. Tony @ JMCK can, of course, make holsters now that work with the comp and a light as long as you let him know you want that.

If I were you I would get a holster with a red dot cut. You lose nothing in terms of function and will have a compatible holster if you do ever take the RMR plunge.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: shookscustoms on September 26, 2017, 02:06:12 AM
I can!
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)


Beautiful!

Can you tell me who can make a holster for this setup comp+light (minus the red dot as I'm still not sure if I even want one).

Cheers
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on September 26, 2017, 03:05:58 AM
I can!
Better pic coming tonight... ;-)

(https://images.imgbox.com/6e/ee/uzLpU14r_o.jpg)


Beautiful!

Can you tell me who can make a holster for this setup comp+light (minus the red dot as I'm still not sure if I even want one).

Cheers

I like the sound of this
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 27, 2017, 09:44:45 AM
I had the package on my desk when I got home from the range yesterday ... now I'm chomping at the bit to get back out and put this through its paces :-D

Still a little unsure what kind of contortions may be needed to clean this beast now (without removing the comp) but I couldn't be happier with the setup. I plan to "adjust" my JMCK and Safariland holsters with a heat gun this week and plan to hit the range this weekend or first of next week - can't wait!

I finally got to the range last night. Short report... awesomeness with a small asterisk :)

150 rounds through the gun and the comp was great. No movement with the tiny bit of red loctite I used and shooting with it is noticeably flatter. Highly recommended. My carry gun will be getting one post haste.

Also gave the CZ Custom mag extensions a whirl... here one is on my carry gun:

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/cd/87/BRurzAET_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/BRurzAET)

I managed to get 20 rounds into the mags with them and had no issues feeding. That small asterisk gets added because I did not get consistent slide lock back on empty. I'm using the stock mag springs, though so maybe I need something stronger. That is a small matter, though. Overall I really liked them.

I did manage to dislodge the fiber in my front sight somehow - it was hagning out the front end of the front sight at the end of the session - but I'm chalking that up to the hasty job I did of installing it initially LOL The gun has had about 1300 rounds through it with the same fiber so maybe it was just time...

It was a fun range trip!
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: BrazeauRacing on September 27, 2017, 10:06:13 AM
Also gave the CZ Custom mag extensions a whirl... here one is on my carry gun:

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/cd/87/BRurzAET_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/BRurzAET)

That small asterisk gets added because I did not get consistent slide lock back on empty. I'm using the stock mag springs, though so maybe I need something stronger. That is a small matter, though. Overall I really liked them.

I had the same experience with it on my P-07.  I wonder if a factory mag spring from a P-09 would resolve that issue.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: jag09 on September 27, 2017, 12:17:40 PM

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What sights are you running/what rmr model? Looking at picking up one of the type 1 rmr's from cabelas since they are below 300 now


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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 27, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
What sights are you running/what rmr model? Looking at picking up one of the type 1 rmr's from cabelas since they are below 300 now

I am running the 6.5MOA, adjustable RM07s - all Gen1's at this point - mainly because I tend to notice more "dot bounce" with smaller dot sizes and, for me, it detracts from target focus. Also, for the shooting I do, the slightly larger dot is not any kind of hurdle. I prefer to be faster up close and don't mind taking a little more time at distance - the 6.5MOA dot is roughly the size of the typical front sight dot FWIW.

The sights are Dawsons. I am not sure of specifics - they were installed by Mark Housel @ L&M Precision Gunworks and he drilled the plain front out for fiber at my request. You might consider shooting him an email for specifics...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on September 27, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
This gun with this mount from www.neumount.com is begging for a stealth comp from Primary Machine and a diet of major PF ammo. Of course I will add a Guga Ribas holster, and Magwell and weld up a 171.249mm mag. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/e0e090839f5c5d6b0fbe7b2fff7b7738.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/354175cf891730c713602a9a470f2fe1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/e658e4fa0f2da39ee08bb8717284ae93.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/1f8947f3ed78b98f571114e258617814.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/793618b6f701b0acd32e80489cf976e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/db3d7aa06d153bd9b335b49dfd7f2b47.jpg)

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on September 27, 2017, 04:39:30 PM
My P-09 has over 35k rounds down range in Competition and practice and has never had a part fail

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on September 27, 2017, 05:07:25 PM
Oh yeah and raining brass does the best RDS slide milling

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on September 27, 2017, 05:24:32 PM
The Neumount is compatible with like 30 Red Dots

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on September 27, 2017, 05:28:36 PM
I have had the same FF3 8 moa since the beginning

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Redeker on September 29, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
s0nspark,
     Did you test comp with just the set screws before using any Loctite, or just 'leap of faith' it?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 29, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
s0nspark,
     Did you test comp with just the set screws before using any Loctite, or just 'leap of faith' it?
No need to fear red loctite man. It's "permanent" but not to the point that you'll never get it off again. lol
Trust me, it's better than a day at the range with a loose comp.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 29, 2017, 11:13:58 AM
s0nspark,
     Did you test comp with just the set screws before using any Loctite, or just 'leap of faith' it?

Nope, no test without. Others have reported issues with their comps being loose when not using red/blue Loctite as directed. They weren't using this comp specifically but I didn't feel like repeating those troubles myself. :-)

BTW, I modded my JMCK P-09 carry holsters to work with the P-07 + comp. It took less than 5 minutes and turned out great!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/3381bc015fe2078feabe748c04c5b537.jpg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on September 29, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Can somebody tell me if leaving more space between comp and slide makes any difference?
I only have half turn from max to "straight" but it really leaves a small gap. With the extra turn the gap is a little bit larger. Don't matter visually, just making sure I don't attach it too close or too  far.
(https://i.imgur.com/qkxGgvS.jpg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 29, 2017, 11:19:47 AM
Can somebody tell me if leaving more space between comp and slide makes any difference?
I only have half turn from max to "straight" but it really leaves a small gap. With the extra turn the gap is a little bit larger. Don't matter visually, just making sure I don't attach it too close or too  far.
(https://i.imgur.com/qkxGgvS.jpg)

Mine are as close as I could get them without being crooked. No interference with the guide rod or anything...
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on September 29, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
You can literally have it touching the slide (if yours fell out so that it was straight) and it wouldn't hinder function at all. :)
However, I wouldn't recommend it touching. What you have in your first pic is perfect.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on September 29, 2017, 11:45:05 AM
Thank you.
Half turn it is then  :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: LonChaney on September 30, 2017, 12:58:19 AM
s0nspark,
     Did you test comp with just the set screws before using any Loctite, or just 'leap of faith' it?

Nope, no test without. Others have reported issues with their comps being loose when not using red/blue Loctite as directed. They weren't using this comp specifically but I didn't feel like repeating those troubles myself. :-)

BTW, I modded my JMCK P-09 carry holsters to work with the P-07 + comp. It took less than 5 minutes and turned out great!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/3381bc015fe2078feabe748c04c5b537.jpg)

More pics please. You are not helping me waiting to ask for this stuff for Christmas
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on September 30, 2017, 11:03:28 AM
More pics please. You are not helping me waiting to ask for this stuff for Christmas

Sure... glad to help/not help LOL

More on my carry setup here: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84782.msg701773#msg701773

... and a few more of just the gun + comp ;-)

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/fa/cb/DMIjMOHh_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/DMIjMOHh)

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/6d/77/twSbCEGO_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/twSbCEGO)

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/a5/fd/CGZRQtv7_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/CGZRQtv7)

(https://thumbs.imgbox.com/28/11/kkzYMHyI_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/kkzYMHyI)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on October 01, 2017, 05:17:27 PM
Went to the range to test the comp and man the difference is significant.
Consecutive shots were much better/closer groups and I?m super happy with it.
Now my targets look like I can actually shoot :D

Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on October 01, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
WellI have a threaded barrel and would rather buy another CZ before spending money on a tax stamp and a can.... hmmm,
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on October 01, 2017, 09:06:32 PM
Went to the range to test the comp and man the difference is significant.
Consecutive shots were much better/closer groups and I?m super happy with it.
Now my targets look like I can actually shoot :D
Glad you're enjoying it! :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on October 02, 2017, 10:24:52 PM
Went to the range to test the comp and man the difference is significant.
Consecutive shots were much better/closer groups and I?m super happy with it.
Now my targets look like I can actually shoot :D
Glad you're enjoying it! :)
Shoots great no doubt but looks like your recommendation as to placement wasn't good.
It's damaging the frame and now I have to find a way to remove it and place it further out.
Both sides. I highlighted the part that causes the problem in yellow. Maybe people will find it non issue but I'm not happy having a week old frame messed up.

(https://i.imgur.com/XStmUcJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on October 03, 2017, 08:13:26 AM
Hm, yours is the first of hundreds so far with that issue. Mine is literally almost touching my slide on my 07 and it?s not doing that to the frame. I would just back it off a turn. Not sure how yours is even hitting. I see you?ve got the slide locked back and there?s a ton of clearance between the comp and frame.

Edit: I?ve got comps installed on 3 07?s and 2 09?s here at the shop. All 5 have a ton of clearance between frame and comp. Yours makes no sense. It?s literally impossible for the two to come in contact with each other if the comp is installed straight.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on October 03, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Hm, yours is the first of hundreds so far with that issue. Mine is literally almost touching my slide on my 07 and it?s not doing that to the frame. I would just back it off a turn. Not sure how yours is even hitting. I see you?ve got the slide locked back and there?s a ton of clearance between the comp and frame.

Edit: I?ve got comps installed on 3 07?s and 2 09?s here at the shop. All 5 have a ton of clearance between frame and comp. Yours makes no sense. It?s literally impossible for the two to come in contact with each other if the comp is installed straight.
I guess we can rule out the impossible at this point :)
It is eating into the frame unfortunately.
I'll back it up a turn and see what happens.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Erikaxe on October 16, 2017, 09:25:25 PM
Attached my stealth comp last night, and hit the range this morning.  The stealth comp works great.  My P07 shoots dead flat with 124 grain ammo.  I've started shooting with an open gun for competition, and I have become a believer in comps.  I'm excited to have one on my carry piece.  Great job Primary Machine!
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on October 16, 2017, 09:46:25 PM
Attached my stealth comp last night, and hit the range this morning.  The stealth comp works great.  My P07 shoots dead flat with 124 grain ammo.  I've started shooting with an open gun for competition, and I have become a believer in comps.  I'm excited to have one on my carry piece.  Great job Primary Machine!
Glad you?re enjoying it.
My P-09 with our comp has become my absolute favorite gun to shoot - even over my Shadow 2.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Erikaxe on October 21, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
Attached my stealth comp last night, and hit the range this morning.  The stealth comp works great.  My P07 shoots dead flat with 124 grain ammo.  I've started shooting with an open gun for competition, and I have become a believer in comps.  I'm excited to have one on my carry piece.  Great job Primary Machine!
Glad you?re enjoying it.
My P-09 with our comp has become my absolute favorite gun to shoot - even over my Shadow 2.
The stealth comp has turned my already impressive P07 into a beast.  I shot 300 rounds through it at the range today, and it makes me look better than I am.  Love it!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/cb2ceb86e6e34e3f4c65a58cf6e3844b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on October 22, 2017, 07:40:19 PM
Definitely puts a smile on your face the first time you shoot it after the comp
Install. Haha
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on November 08, 2017, 11:30:05 AM
We have also confirmed that they work perfectly fine on P-10's, and will also fit any open ended P-10 holster with zero issues.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Ferris13 on November 12, 2017, 05:03:02 PM
Did you guys extend and thread the p10c barrel for that?  Saw the pictures on Instagram and was curious.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: DOC 1500 on November 12, 2017, 09:41:47 PM
Attached my stealth comp last night, and hit the range this morning.  The stealth comp works great.  My P07 shoots dead flat with 124 grain ammo.  I've started shooting with an open gun for competition, and I have become a believer in comps.  I'm excited to have one on my carry piece.  Great job Primary Machine!
Glad you?re enjoying it.
My P-09 with our comp has become my absolute favorite gun to shoot - even over my Shadow 2.
The stealth comp has turned my already impressive P07 into a beast.  I shot 300 rounds through it at the range today, and it makes me look better than I am.  Love it!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/cb2ceb86e6e34e3f4c65a58cf6e3844b.jpg)

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is the slide on that po7 cerekoted ? If it is what color?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Czgunsalot on November 13, 2017, 03:09:19 AM
Did you guys extend and thread the p10c barrel for that?  Saw the pictures on Instagram and was curious.

Yes the barrel was extended, I?m pretty sure the gun you saw on IG was mine.  Shot about 600 flawless rds.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Ferris13 on November 13, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
Yeah love both your p10c and P07, they must be a blast to shoot with the comps.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Rick53 on November 13, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
While I'll be the first to say these setups look pretty slick: But are any of you serious about carrying this as EDC?  They are slick no doubt -But for concealed carry I think it's ridiculous. Race Gun mania on EDC?? Maybe the perp will say assume gun dude DON'T SHOOT  O0
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on November 13, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
While I'll be the first to say these setups look pretty slick: But are any of you serious about carrying this as EDC?  They are slick no doubt -But for concealed carry I think it's ridiculous. Race Gun mania on EDC?? Maybe the perp will say assume gun dude DON'T SHOOT  O0

whats ridiculous??  do you own or have ever used an AR 15 (or been in the military and used an M4?)   sorry but times are changing and it sounds like you are falling to the wayside and (please dont take this as any personal attack or insults) you may soon be an actual FUDD.

again whats ridiculous, the fact that a red dot lends it self for single focal plane focusing on a threat, faster transitions in the chance there are more than one threats.  Or wait is it a compensatory that helps a shooter shoot flatter and faster follow up shots.

let me guess still rocking the weaver stance and the 1911 should only come in one style .45acp because that is what won 2 world wars
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on November 13, 2017, 03:15:30 PM
While I'll be the first to say these setups look pretty slick: But are any of you serious about carrying this as EDC?  They are slick no doubt -But for concealed carry I think it's ridiculous. Race Gun mania on EDC?? Maybe the perp will say assume gun dude DON'T SHOOT  O0
Pretty unintelligent post.
Title: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on November 13, 2017, 04:10:36 PM
While I'll be the first to say these setups look pretty slick: But are any of you serious about carrying this as EDC?  They are slick no doubt -But for concealed carry I think it's ridiculous. Race Gun mania on EDC?? Maybe the perp will say assume gun dude DON'T SHOOT  [emoji63]

Trust me when I say that looks are the least of it.

All I care about with my carry gear is reliability and performance. My comped RMR gun?s have never missed a beat and they truly do help me shoot more accurately and faster. I think in a gunfight both would be beneficial. ;-)

Honestly the only downsides - if you want to nitpick - are the minimal extra weight and bulk they add to your carry setup... and cost. I think the results FAR outweigh those tiny downsides but YMMV

It took me a few years of debating and saving to take the RMR plunge - a case of ?optic cost more than gun? syndrome lol - but man it made a tremendous difference. I regret I waited.

That sweet comp is just the cherry on top. :-D
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on November 13, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
I love how people hate change,  but not only hate change but only kinda hate change.

Any and all types of red dots on rifle, oh hex yeah bro tots need that for the range or my "home defense" gun.

Compensator in a 5.56 16in ar15, yeah man half my guns have have flash hiders but the other half have different brakes it helps with recoil...

Show them a RDS handgun with a compensator and those same people start going fuds

Oh and then you get the 9mm guys, "I shoot 9mm over .40/357sig/.45acp because low recoil equals faster more accurate follow up shots and shot placement is what matters and follow up shots.

Show those guys a comp'd gun and they are all "why do you need that"
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Czgunsalot on November 14, 2017, 02:00:51 AM
It also took me some time to actually take the plunge and get the dot and comp,  I?ve always been a irons type of guy after shooting 2 years with the cz shadow.  But I?ll recommend this setup to everyone.  Is the comp  necessary?  No but it sure does let you get away with not having a good grip.  But it also makes it easy as hell to follow up shots if you do have a good grip.

Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Voodoo on November 14, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Love this comp, it helps a lot and not once I got a negative comment about it. I had a issue with it in the beginning (documented in this thread) but that was a easy fix/adjustment.  Fact is every instructor that saw me shoot my P-07 complimented it and my skills with continuous fire. It wasn't so pretty without it especially after 3rd/4th round. Now I'm confident with hitting 10-12 consecutive fast shots in the A area (uspsa target @ 7-10 yards with 124 HST's). To me that is a huge difference considering that my trigger is stock and I always start holstered with hammer down as the gun was designed.
Wish I could say the same thing about red dots. My astigmatism makes a 2moa look like 10 moa scratch.
I'm still weighting if I will add one but fact is anything past 10 yards will be hard to shoot precisely.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Ferris13 on November 14, 2017, 02:11:23 PM
It also took me some time to actually take the plunge and get the dot and comp,  I?ve always been a irons type of guy after shooting 2 years with the cz shadow.  But I?ll recommend this setup to everyone.  Is the comp  necessary?  No but it sure does let you get away with not having a good grip.  But it also makes it easy as hell to follow up shots if you do have a good grip.

Curious how the P07 and P10c compare in recoil characteristics with the comps.  Notice any big differences or have a preference?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Sadly Missing on November 14, 2017, 05:40:10 PM
Definitely makes a difference with the comp.
Have them on two P-09's.

As an aside, Primary Machines work is top notch.

I recently had two slides milled for dots,
the mill work and the Nitride finish are fantastic.

It is obvious that the people who negatively view the dots and
comps haven't had any experience with them.

Saving pennies Raining Brass, the P-07 is next to be cut and comped.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Edward_Teach on November 14, 2017, 09:53:08 PM
Not to derail the thread but since some people think power steering is cool and all but is s bit ridiculous for everyday driving and should be left for race cars

https://youtu.be/ztEAnWuVMvA
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Raining_Brass on November 14, 2017, 10:37:07 PM
Definitely makes a difference with the comp.
Have them on two P-09's.

As an aside, Primary Machines work is top notch.

I recently had two slides milled for dots,
the mill work and the Nitride finish are fantastic.

It is obvious that the people who negatively view the dots and
comps haven't had any experience with them.

Saving pennies Raining Brass, the P-07 is next to be cut and comped.

Looking forward to it! :)
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on December 07, 2017, 06:01:39 PM
Any thoughts on a Major Comp??

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: Jamiethesquid on December 12, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Love this comp, it helps a lot and not once I got a negative comment about it. I had a issue with it in the beginning (documented in this thread) but that was a easy fix/adjustment.  Fact is every instructor that saw me shoot my P-07 complimented it and my skills with continuous fire. It wasn't so pretty without it especially after 3rd/4th round. Now I'm confident with hitting 10-12 consecutive fast shots in the A area (uspsa target @ 7-10 yards with 124 HST's). To me that is a huge difference considering that my trigger is stock and I always start holstered with hammer down as the gun was designed.
Wish I could say the same thing about red dots. My astigmatism makes a 2moa look like 10 moa scratch.
I'm still weighting if I will add one but fact is anything past 10 yards will be hard to shoot precisely.
Try a Larger MOA Dot. I originally bought a couple 3 moa dot sights, and I have a bad Astygmatism also. The 3 moa's look like a comma or a parenthesis. The 8 MOA Burris FF3 is a nice round dot, especially in bright sunlight.

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Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: rio671 on December 13, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
I love the look of this comp!  What holsters work with this setup?  Can a kydex holster be modified to accomodate the comp?
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: s0nspark on December 13, 2017, 06:16:20 PM
I love the look of this comp!  What holsters work with this setup?  Can a kydex holster be modified to accomodate the comp?

I was able to modify my P-09 kydex holsters quite easily since I have the comp installed on a P-07... That said, most open bottom holsters will work without modification assuming you don't mind the comp protruding.
Title: Re: Primary Machine's CZ Stealth Comp
Post by: dave33 on December 13, 2017, 06:21:35 PM
I love the look of this comp!  What holsters work with this setup?  Can a kydex holster be modified to accomodate the comp?

I use a Comp Tac kydex holster for a P-09 with a comp on it, its a holster specifically made for the P-07, called the slide, its open bottom and fits like a glove.