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GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: Omega8omega on November 17, 2005, 07:58:40 PM

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Post by: Omega8omega on November 17, 2005, 07:58:40 PM: I am wondering if someone tried this gun.
I positively love it. This is russian IZH35M in .22LR

(http://www.czgrips.us/images/IZH35m%201.jpg)

(http://www.czgrips.us/images/IZH35m%202.jpg)
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Post by: CZJedi on November 17, 2005, 08:25:32 PM: I saw one once at a gun show, but didn't have the funds at the time. Never saw one again, but always wondered how it shot.
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 17, 2005, 09:14:38 PM: I love the grips on it. Is that an ULTRADOT on it.
It appears to be an exceptional bullseye gun.
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Post by: Omega8omega on November 17, 2005, 09:54:38 PM: I just started bullseye shooting and this gun make wonders - last week it allowed me to make 96 of 100 (75 feet, one hand)in my first string, and I liked it so much that completely blew the rest.
It is not Ultradot but Bushnell Trophy with 4 reticles.
I traded brand new PCR for this gun and bought red dot later.
Unfortunately EAA doesn't import them anymore. It is a great gun.
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 17, 2005, 10:01:59 PM: "Unfortunately EAA doesn't import them anymore"

I do remember seeing it, but now I realize that what I saw in the 2005 EAA catalog is the IZH46M target pistol in .177 that much resembles yours but its an air gun. Yours is a .22LR.
Best success in bullseye competition. There is nothing that will hone your pistol shooting skills better. All great shooters transition with a .22LR and do bullseye. It is the only way to become truly proficient in the higher military calibers.
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Post by: Walt-Sherrill on November 17, 2005, 10:22:45 PM: Do you think Han Solo knows its missing, yet?
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 17, 2005, 10:26:19 PM: If you really want to see a Star Wars or Star Trek type futuristic looking gun, try the Beretta Neos.
I always get remarks at the range that go something like.
" Does Worf know that his Federation phaser is missing?" or something to that effect. Here it is. Shoots like a dream. Very ergonomic. Nice thumbrest on the grip as well. Adjustable trigger. Exceptional gun in every way.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/NEOS6inch.jpg)
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Post by: verbaltharhino on November 18, 2005, 02:46:34 PM: More like Robocop.
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Post by: dleong on November 18, 2005, 06:21:17 PM: Quote
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If you really want to see a Star Wars or Star Trek type futuristic looking gun, try the Beretta Neos.
I always get remarks at the range that go something like.
" Does Worf know that his Federation phaser is missing?" or something to that effect. Here it is. Shoots like a dream. Very ergonomic. Nice thumbrest on the grip as well. Adjustable trigger. Exceptional gun in every way.

Indeed the Neos is exceptional in every way. Including having an exceptionally heavy trigger right out of the box.

Here's mine that I purchased from Gander Mountain just over a year ago:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/screwthepap/Beretta_U22_Neos.jpg)

The heavy trigger was easy enough to lighten up, following instructions provided on www.rimfirecentral.com (http://www.rimfirecentral.com). The trigger pull is now down to about 2.5 lbs. on my Neos.

It is a comfortable and exceptionally accurate pistol, though, and does get its fair share of attention at the range due to its unconventional (read futuristic) appearance.

DL
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 18, 2005, 07:28:11 PM: dleong:
You have good taste. It has become my primary bullseye gun. I have not shot anything more accurate, although omegas example is very ergonomic and could surpass anything in the bullseye realm, even the Smith & Wesson model 41. It is unfortunate that EAA will no longer import it.
In the time being, I am very satisfied with the Neos as my primary bullseye pistol.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/blowo2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/superneos.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/pistolmatch.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/6inchinosdeluxe.jpg)
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Post by: CZJedi on November 19, 2005, 09:36:29 AM: I had a Browning Buckmark (not bad gun), but traded it to a buddy for a Kadet (I had one before and always regretted selling it). I know it is not a real good bullseye gun, but I want it more for a inexpensive practice gun for my 75B. When I was thinking about the buckmark I saw some Neos and liked the feel. I also liked that conversion kit that turns it into a carbine. My gun dealer talked me out of it, though. He said he had several come back with complaints and once he sold what he had, he was not going to restock (it would have to be a special order).

Did everybody here have good luck out of the box, or was there some refining needed?
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Post by: dleong on November 19, 2005, 10:22:49 AM: CZJedi,

I am curious: what kinds of complaints was your dealer getting about the Neos?

Most of the complaints I have read and heard about the Neos center around its absurdly heavy stock trigger. A mechanically disinclined Neos owner might not want to tackle the relatively simple task of lightening the trigger--which would be a shame, as the pistol's accuracy potential is really only fully realized after this has been done. The modification only involves the replacement of the sear spring with a lighter spring cannibalized from a disposable cigarette lighter. I did not have any lighters handy, so I made the replacement spring from an AR15 detent pin spring, and got the trigger pull down to about 2.5 lbs.

I have shot several bricks of ammo (mainly CCI Blazers) through my Neos, and do not recall ever experiencing a single malfunction.

DL
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Post by: CZJedi on November 19, 2005, 11:14:51 AM: This was when the Neos first came out, so it was a few months back. Off-hand I remember cycling problems being mentioned. Maybe this was only part of the initial run, and has worked itself out. I really like the looks and of course Beretta is a quality company. The store owner actually cam right out and said "don't buy it." The only other time I heard him say that was when a guy who knew nothing about guns came in and saw a Jennings .22 that the store got as part of a buy-out of another store and wanted to get it as a carry defense pistol. I was just there on Thursday, but next time I go around I'll try to remember to ask about the Neo again. Who knows, maybe is opinion has changed, or maybe I can get some more specifics.
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 19, 2005, 05:02:56 PM: czjedi:
Never had a problem with mine. It loves CCI standard velocity and subsonic. I also feed it CCI blazers. , Winchester Wildcats , and Winchester Target.
Another one that it loves is Eley Standard brown label.
I can count the number of malfunctions I have had on one hand after thousands of rounds. Exceptional accuracy and ergonomics. A perfect bullseye gun.
I honestly have no idea what the gunshop owner that you speak of had a problem with. In all honesty, I VERY RARELY hear any Beretta product having problems, and when they do, its very minor. Its not a gun for everyone, but the ergonomics and angled grips, coupled with a polymer grip with an intergrated thumbrest. Well, you simply can't beat it. I also have a 6 inch deluxe, below. I love both.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/wingedliberty/6inchinosdeluxe.jpg)
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Post by: BRASMAN on November 21, 2005, 01:55:01 AM: Yes, I have the Neo and it is a fantastic pistol for the money. The only issue I have had with mine is the rear sight screw wanting to come out at the range so I put some blue loctite on it. I have been using a BSA red dot on it but it stinks. I am going to go with a regular pistol scope. I am very glad I got the pistol though. It is accurate and reliable. The first 300rds the trigger was garbage but after that it has been great. That Russian .22 looks cool though.
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Post by: Ulvetann on November 21, 2005, 07:22:15 AM: I had a Baikal too, a very accurate gun!
I loved the *clank* sound when releasing the slide!
It made everyone else know, that they had a "russian gun-competitor" close by.

My negative statements too it, is really only that the rearsight unscrews itself during shooting, but not really a big issue, just dip the screw into nailpolish, and it will stick.
And perhaps, that cleaning it with a stick must be done from the front, since the barrel is a part of the frame, and there is no hole in the back of the frame (by the grip) to push a rod through. Besides of that, I really love the spartan craftsmanship regarding the finish and mechanics of it. When looking at it, and feeling it for the first time, I felt it was kind of "blacksmith-beaten-iron" welded together, but the accuracy of it really proved my predjudices wrong!
It is a gun with soul, imho. I used Lapua Master ammunition. It loved it.
The gun is cheap too!
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Post by: Omega8omega on November 21, 2005, 12:26:38 PM: Oh, thank you for bringing us back to original theme
Yes, that sound is like reloading miniature shotgun.
I like very much hummer going down instead of common forward.
I'd say it is awesome gun for the money, like Makarov.
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Post by: CZJedi on November 21, 2005, 03:59:02 PM: You mention it is cheap... how much do they go for? The one time I saw it at a gun show, the guy wanted $700 (not cheap, IMHO).
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Post by: Omega8omega on November 21, 2005, 05:40:21 PM: Those guns were about $450 in stores. So it is cheap for this class competition gun. I trade NIB PCR for used IZH35.
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 21, 2005, 05:47:25 PM: I cannot find them any longer, it may be due to the fact that they are no longer imported.
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Post by: CZJedi on November 21, 2005, 07:08:26 PM: At $450, I'd pick one of them up in a heartbeat!
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Post by: KingPolymer-III on November 21, 2005, 07:16:50 PM: me too
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Post by: Omega8omega on November 28, 2005, 08:04:35 PM: well, here is the chance, I just put it for sale