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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: Evolve13 on October 09, 2017, 03:02:35 PM
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Wow, wow!!!!
Just got this today from CZC.
75 chambered in 357 SIG.
I?ll be going to range tonight!!
Anyone here have experience with this pistol?
Thanks
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SI VIS PACEM
PARA BELLUM
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It's beautiful. I'm jealous
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Looks to be built on the CZ 75 40S&W platform........I've looked at those on CZC's site, tempting but stayed strong. I've had 357Sig firearms in the past, liked the round a lot......let us know how the range trip went....curious to know :)
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Nice!!
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congrats!
great cartridge.
wonder IF a 10 MM is not far behind?
Now that would be my ticket!
as the 357 Sig operates at a higher pressure than the 10 MM then I don't see why not?
have to ponder on that I guess?
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I have a 75B in 40 that I have bought a 357 Sig barrel for. I love it. Very accurate and very controllable. I like speed out of the 357 sig, so I shoot 90 and 95 gr bullets at over 1500 fps. When it hits, ooooh, like a small thermal nuclear device going off.
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Some delays getting this to the range.
Tomorrow am it is.
I'll post results ASAP!!
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Let us know. Love the 357sig.
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Can't wait to hear your thoughts. A 10mm CZ with a 9x25 Dillon barrel is my dream!
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That is a nice pistol! Almost went for one a while back when they first became available , but they also had their modified 75 SA in .40 in stock at the time (the one that included a 9mm barrel conversion) .....went for that one instead. Looking forward to your range report.
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So today I put about 200 rounds through this pistol.
I have shot this round a great deal in my Glock which was my EDC for a long time.
I have probably shot nearly 3,000 rounds of 357 SIG, so I feel like I have some good experience with the round.
I really enjoyed my Glock, the rise of this round is pretty dramatic, somewhat difficult for second shot acquisition with this round, especially in a light pistol like a Glock.
At one point to eliminate some of the rise i put an extended slotted barrel on it.
That was effective, but it was still a tough round to control in a defensive or tactical posture IMO.
This pistol is pretty heavy so i expected far less recoil and muzzle rise.
The recoil was about the same, the muzzle rise was pretty evident, less than the Glock but it was noticeable.
A bit tough to get second shot acquisition.
The trigger was amazing, but I expected that from CZC.
The gun felt awesome, ergonomically for me with very large hands it felt great, thick heavy and stuck like glue.
I really think this is a great round, I really want to love it and use it for EDC, but its just too bleep much for follow up shots on target.
With a 9mm I can group 10 shots at 12 yards about 3" and get them off lightning fast.
With 357 Sig if i want the same group it literally takes me twice as long to shoot.
So, all in all it is an incredible pistol, CZC does amazing work and i am thrilled to have this in my collection.
I do feel however that it will get dusty.
I hope this rant made sense.
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Thanks for sharing!
And to think I was a 9x25 Dillon barrel for my Witness Hunter... I think I need a full on compensator for that round.
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Nice gun, nice report. Now if only CZ mass-produced a .357sig gun. If only....
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So as I was thinking about the CZ 357 from yesterday and comparing it to my Glock again in my mind it dawned on me that probably the easiest shooting 357 SIG pistol I have is the SIG LEGION.
The GLOCK was far too light, and IMO a bit small even with extended mag and while it felt nice ergonomically, the CZ felt better.
The LEGION however was the superior gun of the three.
It is as heavy if not more than the CZ.
It has as nice a trigger on it, as nice as the CZ trigger from CZC.
The recoil is actually more manageable, I might even say substantially more.
The overall size and feel for me personally was better.
So in conclusion, for this round I rate the LEGION at the top of the pile, CZ second place and GLOCK in third.
If anyone has experiences with other 357 SIG pistols I would love to hear about it.
Thanks
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congrats!
great cartridge.
wonder IF a 10 MM is not far behind?
Now that would be my ticket!
as the 357 Sig operates at a higher pressure than the 10 MM then I don't see why not?
have to ponder on that I guess?
I would sign up on a 10mm conversion list.
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...If anyone has experiences with other 357 SIG pistols I would love to hear about it....
I have and own the .357sig in the following pistols with the triggers:
Sig P226 (DA/SA)
Sig P229 (DAK)
HK P2000 (Heavy LEM)
HK USP357 (DA/SA)
HK P30L (Light LEM)
Beretta Cougar 8357 (DA/SA)
IMHO, the best pistol is the HK P30L because of the easy trigger, balance, lowest felt recoil and ergo grip. Quickest follow-up shots and accuracy is 1-inch groupings 10-12 yds out.
Second best is the Sig P226. Slightly more felt recoil than the P30, and the short reset trigger helps a lot. Rate of follow-up shots and accuracy same as P30.
All others are a distant third because of the trigger systems. Heavy or gritty DA pull, heavy break, long travel between break and reset, etc. The worst is the Beretta, but that is another story.
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...If anyone has experiences with other 357 SIG pistols I would love to hear about it....
I have and own the .357sig in the following pistols with the triggers:
Sig P226 (DA/SA)
Sig P229 (DAK)
HK P2000 (Heavy LEM)
HK USP357 (DA/SA)
HK P30L (Light LEM)
Beretta Cougar 8357 (DA/SA)
IMHO, the best pistol is the HK P30L because of the easy trigger, balance, lowest felt recoil and ergo grip. Quickest follow-up shots and accuracy is 1-inch groupings 10-12 yds out.
Second best is the Sig P226. Slightly more felt recoil than the P30, and the short reset trigger helps a lot. Rate of follow-up shots and accuracy same as P30.
All others are a distant third because of the trigger systems. Heavy or gritty DA pull, heavy break, long travel between break and reset, etc. The worst is the Beretta, but that is another story.
Good info, I am going to have to look at that HK then.
Thanks
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I have a Sig P320 in .357 Sig
Very impressive handgun.
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wonder IF a 10 MM is not far behind?
Now that would be my ticket!
as the 357 Sig operates at a higher pressure than the 10 MM then I don't see why not?
It won't happen because the 10mm is too long to fit in the grip frame. 45ACP, 10mm and 9x23Win would have to utilize the CZ97 sized frame. 9mm, 9x21, 30 Luger, 40S&W and 357Sig can all utilize the CZ75 sized frame. If you want a 10mm, the large frame Witness is the way to go. I have two and they're great.
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Carried a SIG 229 in .357 sig my last ten years on the cop job. ALWAYS felt well equipped with that gun and cartridge.
I have a 226 X5 All Around that has a Bar-Sto barrel in .357 sig fitted. THAT is a low recoil (for the cartridge) platform for sure. I can hit my hundred yard, 10" square, steel plate quite regularly with that setup.
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Carried a SIG 229 in .357 sig my last ten years on the cop job. ALWAYS felt well equipped with that gun and cartridge.
I have a 226 X5 All Around that has a Bar-Sto barrel in .357 sig fitted. THAT is a low recoil (for the cartridge) platform for sure. I can hit my hundred yard, 10" square, steel plate quite regularly with that setup.
Was that Sig steel or polymer frame? I'm assuming steel or aluminum since it was a duty weapon, but want to check please.
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Sig 229's have aluminum frames.
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Sig 229's have aluminum frames.
Yep. The only Sigs with steel frames are most of their 1911s and the Sig P220 in 10mm.
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Nice CZ there!!!!
For 357Sig round I like have a P229 and it shoots really well. It's quite a fun round at the range if you don't mind the ammo cost :)
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Have you tried different grips? I know lots of folks like those, but they give my hand a real workout when shooting full power .40's.
I'm surprised it didn't come with some palmswell bogies on it or something like that.
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I haven't tried new grips yet as I have gone on a bit of a purchasing spree this last month so i have a list of pistols to play with.
Its a good suggestion though, as I think this is a great carry round.
Thank you for the suggestion.
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Awesome pistol! My Sig P239 is chambered in 357 Sig.
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I have two .357 SIG pistols. A Glock M31 and a S&W M&P FS model. The M&P feels better in my hand than the Glock but that darn Glock shoots better groups than the M&P. Disgusting.
Some day. Some day I'll have a CZ in .357 SIG. Just need to have enough unused money around to decide "it's time!"
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I have two .357 SIG pistols. A Glock M31 and a S&W M&P FS model. The M&P feels better in my hand than the Glock but that darn Glock shoots better groups than the M&P. Disgusting.
Some day. Some day I'll have a CZ in .357 SIG. Just need to have enough unused money around to decide "it's time!"
I want a 10mm compact and the only reliable one I can find is the Glock 29.... The Witness steel compact is a total crap shoot and it breaks my heart that I may have to go to the dark side. But then I'll get a barrel in 9x25 dillon and use a compensator. O0 that's how this ties into 357 Sig.
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Does the bottom of the barrel lug get cut off on the 357 SIG barrel? (They do that on the 40S&W barrel.)
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I have an infinity 2011 in 357 sig. We aren't allowed to shoot 40 here and .357 sig is recognised for major power factor in IPSC. It is common to see them in 2011's.
I wonder if the shadow 2 could be converted. It is a heavy gun.
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I have an infinity 2011 in 357 sig. We aren't allowed to shoot 40 here and .357 sig is recognised for major power factor in IPSC. It is common to see them in 2011's.
I wonder if the shadow 2 could be converted. It is a heavy gun.
If you have a 40S&W version, it should just be fitting up a 9mm barrel and reaming it to 357 SIG.