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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ Scorpion EVO => Topic started by: Albert715 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:11 PM

Title: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Albert715 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:11 PM
Hi - new member here

I recently purchased a scorpion pistol with the flash can. This is my first CZ gun. I noticed half the feed ramp is a rust color. Is this rust? Does it need to be polished? I am not sure if it will cause feed issues being I have not shot it.

I would post a pic but don't know how.

Does anyone know what this could be or has experienced this before?

 Not sure of the QC CZ has..... :-\ never though I would have to send a gun off 2 days after I buy it new....
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on October 10, 2017, 05:08:47 AM
If you've never sent a gun back you clearly haven't bought many guns. I've sent back a half dozen brands within 2 days of ownership for various issues.
I'd give the gun a good initial cleaning and go shoot it and see how that goes before I condemned the gun.
If you think there's an issue call CZ-USA and explain it too them. CZ customer service is great so if there is a problem they will take care of it.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: olfarhors on October 10, 2017, 03:33:14 PM
clean the weapon and take it to the range and actually operate it as intended (with ammo) and see how it performs.
then form an opinion.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Albert715 on October 10, 2017, 05:56:49 PM
Missing the point... I understand that it probably functions properly. The fact that the feed ramp looks unfinished and/or has rust on it straight out of the box - is an issue. Especially - since I am new to this brand and research did not show up hits......And no I do not expect to have to send back a brand new  reputable source gun within days of purchasing. Seems to me that's not normal what you have experienced.

I heard back from CZ - apparently all new scorpion pistols made will not have a "finished" fully polished feed ramp. It should not affect functionality.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Tyerone on October 10, 2017, 09:54:35 PM
Maybe its cosmoline?  Clean that whole sucka out good, re-lube and shoot.  Otherwise call CZ /email pictures to them for advice.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Shadow knows on October 10, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Maybe its cosmoline?  Clean that whole sucka out good, re-lube and shoot.  Otherwise call CZ /email pictures to them for advice.
Bingo
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Chef Jeff on October 11, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
And no I do not expect to have to send back a brand new  reputable source gun within days of purchasing. Seems to me that's not normal what you have experienced.

Not trying to bust your chops, but it is normal. Nothing made by the hand of man is perfect. Whether it says Colt, CZ, Smith and Wesson, Glock, or whatever on the slide, bad ones get out of the factory. I've sent new guns back to the manufacturer once or twice, and I'm sure a fair number of people on this forum have, as well. It's why they come with warranties.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on October 11, 2017, 06:05:24 AM
I heard back from CZ - apparently all new scorpion pistols made will not have a "finished" fully polished feed ramp. It should not affect functionality.

If CZ says it's normal then go shoot the gun and enjoy it. If it does not function properly then call them back.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on October 11, 2017, 07:22:32 AM
It'll work fine, clean it and use it, or you could send your perfectly performing firearm to CZ for a few weeks; they will probably be happy to take it, up to you.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Stuart on October 11, 2017, 01:19:19 PM
Before completing the transfer one should inspect the weapon fully and ask questions before the transfer. If not satisfied do not transfer.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Mastodon on October 11, 2017, 08:53:23 PM
Missing the point... I understand that it probably functions properly. The fact that the feed ramp looks unfinished and/or has rust on it straight out of the box - is an issue. Especially - since I am new to this brand and research did not show up hits......And no I do not expect to have to send back a brand new  reputable source gun within days of purchasing. Seems to me that's not normal what you have experienced.

I heard back from CZ - apparently all new scorpion pistols made will not have a "finished" fully polished feed ramp. It should not affect functionality.

Just a little reassurance bump here. I have a 2017 scorpion carbine.  Daniel from CZ-USA told me what they told you. 
And yeah, my feed ramp is not polished all the way down.  Half of the ramp isn't shiny.

I've never had any issues with my many CZs over the years, and this was new to me.  I've also never hesitated to contact CZ about anything, and they get back to me.

Anyhow.  My carbine stamped 2017 has the same feed ramp look you are describing.  I love shooting this carbine.  Enjoy! 8)
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: armoredman on October 11, 2017, 10:30:57 PM
Is nothing, shoot, enjoy, repeat. :) Welcome to the wonderful world of CZ!
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Thrillbilly on October 12, 2017, 12:15:57 AM
Could just be copper rubbed off on the ramp from test firing, or even lubricant. Put a little hops #9 on a qtip and clean it up, then see what you have.

If you are really worried, get a bore scopeand give it a good inspection after a thorough cleaning.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: SouthernScorp on October 12, 2017, 09:25:57 PM
it's probably cosmoline or machine oil. My evo came FULL of a very sticky grease/oil and dripping wet with thin oil... the box was soaked.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: SouthernScorp on October 12, 2017, 09:27:08 PM
clean everything FIRST "as you should always do with a new firearm" re-lube and then test fire. I doubt you'll have any problems. and if it is rust on the ramp a little 800 grit and your good to go.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Thrillbilly on October 13, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
clean everything FIRST "as you should always do with a new firearm" re-lube and then test fire. I doubt you'll have any problems. and if it is rust on the ramp a little 800 grit and your good to go.

Yes! That is something most people don?t realize. Guns are packed by the factory with the expectation that they may sit in a box for years, be exposed to heat and cold, and have to fight off humidity and moisture.  Every gun must be cleaned if you expect it to function well.
Title: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: usmcvet on October 16, 2017, 06:57:50 AM
All of my Glock's have come with a rust-colored grease on the action.  Not sure if this could be the same thing.  http://www.glockforum.net/forum/attachments/glock-talk-discussion/1569d1364423438-recently-purchased-glock-27-glock-26-factory-copper-colored-grease-slide.jpg(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171016/814fac7a3f130eeabae39c3cb165c582.jpg)
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: jmstallard on October 16, 2017, 11:39:47 AM
clean everything FIRST "as you should always do with a new firearm" re-lube and then test fire. I doubt you'll have any problems. and if it is rust on the ramp a little 800 grit and your good to go.

Meh...I didn't clean mine first, and I'm 500 rounds into it with zero malfunctions. I'm not saying it's not a good idea to do an initial cleaning, just that maybe it's not quite as crucial as many people say it is.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Montesf1030 on October 16, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
Send it back to CZ ... They have excellent Customer Service.... Call then and explain the issues ...


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Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Spearjunkie on October 19, 2017, 11:13:18 PM
Alrighty then.

You start a thread about disappointment with CZ with a copper/rust color on the feed ramp and have no clue what it is. 
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: MadDuner on October 19, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
OP didn't come back after taking it out the first time. 

It would be my guess that after cleaning the cosmoline off everything - the ramp was just fine.  Either it worked just fine, or he's so very disgusted by the color of the feed ramp that he sold it for pennies on the dollar and is saving for a glock.  J/K  He didn't sound that upset. 

OP - come back and tell us what the result was please.
Title: Re: New Member and First time CZ firearm Disappointment
Post by: Spearjunkie on October 21, 2017, 12:39:23 AM
OP didn't come back after taking it out the first time. 

It would be my guess that after cleaning the cosmoline off everything - the ramp was just fine.  Either it worked just fine, or he's so very disgusted by the color of the feed ramp that he sold it for pennies on the dollar and is saving for a glock.  J/K  He didn't sound that upset. 

OP - come back and tell us what the result was please.

I like Glocks and polishing the feed ramp is one of the first things I do. He will crap himself when he sees all the copper anti seize in a Glock  :o