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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Wobbly on January 08, 2018, 04:18:40 PM

Title: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Wobbly on January 08, 2018, 04:18:40 PM
I was out in 36?F weather today and decided to wear some very lightweight Thinsulate leather gloves while shooting some strings with my new P-10. One thing I noticed immediately was that even as thin as the gloves were, I had a lot of trouble disengaging the trigger safety.

Not saying this is an across-the-board issue, but if you intend to carry the P-10 and wear gloves, then you might want to try that combination out before depending upon it.

Just saying.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: 30-30 on January 08, 2018, 04:59:56 PM
I had a lot of trouble disengaging the trigger safety.
I wasn't aware that the P-10C, being a striker-fired variant, had a trigger safety?  You must be talking about the "glock-like" tab that acts as a somewhat trigger safety, in that it needs to be depressed before it'll go bang. 
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: seaswol on January 08, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
So this is how CZ describes its P10C safety on their site:

"Product Name CZ P-10 C 9mm
SKU 91520
MSRP $499
Chambering 9mm Luger
Magazine Capacity 15+1
Frame Fiber-reinforced polymer
Trigger Mech Striker
Sights Metal Three-Dot
Barrel Cold Hammer Forged
Barrel Length 4.02 in
Height 5.2 in
Width 1.26 in
Weight 26 oz
Overall Length 7.3 in
Safety Firing Pin Block Safety, Trigger Safety"

So trigger safety it is.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: IDescribe on January 08, 2018, 05:18:19 PM
You must be talking about the "glock-like" tab that acts as a somewhat trigger safety, in that it needs to be depressed before it'll go bang.

Right.  It's called a trigger safety.  Glock also calls it a trigger safety.   ;)
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: armoredman on January 08, 2018, 06:01:22 PM
Is dingus.  8)
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: IDescribe on January 08, 2018, 06:35:46 PM
Is dingus.  8)

I almost posted that, but I didn?t want to get into the technical terminology.  ;)
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: dwhitehorne on January 08, 2018, 07:53:57 PM
You always have to test your gear out.  I was out at rifle quals today and it was 11 when we started shooting.  Red dot batteries that were fine in the 70 degree sub station crap out during the course of fire.  People with gloves limp wrist, bump the slide release and jerk the trigger worse.  Even with gloves you have to watch that trigger finger placement on the face of the trigger.  You start squeezing from the side instead of straight back and you can catch the safety and pull your shots.  I've also seen others with the surprise shoot because the padding of the glove is pulling the trigger quicker than the shooter thinks.  David
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Wobbly on January 08, 2018, 08:44:03 PM
Say what you will, but coming to the P-10, like I suspect many others here are and that is from carrying a P-01 or 75, they won't be expecting anything like that.

The P-10, being the only owner of a dingus, people will walk out the door with it, never suspecting.

Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: armoredman on January 08, 2018, 08:52:58 PM
It IS good to know, ever for those of us who will never fire a CZ wearing gloves...I honestly don't think I own a pair, except for driving gloves I use to handle TUB when it's 120 on the firing line. Steel gets warm, doncha know.
But it is important to know with the popularity of this pistol and the freakishly low temps hitting much of the country, thank you. has anyone ever had this issue with other manufacturer dinguses in the cold?
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: cntrydawwwg on January 08, 2018, 09:19:12 PM
Wobbly, I haven?t got to shoot mine in gloves yet, but thanks for the heads up.
   I do wonder if they were causing a different grip on the trigger. Don?t know if the HBI trigger will correct it, I?m holding out to give the CGW one a try once they get it up for sale.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Indy_Tim on January 09, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Thanks for the heads up.  I love 1911s but won't carry one in the winter due to my inability to shoot them with gloves on.  The beauty of most CZs is that big, glove friendly trigger guard but the P10C comes up a bit short in that area.  The trigger guard is a bit smaller to fit the G19 holsters and so you really have to be careful what type of gloves that you wear when shooting a P10C.  I have a couple of pair of think mechanics gloves that work well for light winter carry.  But, with temps lately hitting -12 here in the mornings, light gloves don't cut it.  My solution then is my .40 P07.  That has a nice, big trigger guard and a good, dingus free trigger.

I've also carried a full size 75B in .40 and that trigger guard is even bigger.  The only issue I have there is that the gun gets really cold.  A polymer frame seems to be well suited for deep winter carry.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Tanners Owner on January 09, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
I solve this by carrying my S&W M64 snubby :-)
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: armoredman on January 09, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
I haven't carried a Model 64 in 20 years, but I wouldn't feel bad with one.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: ragingbulldaily on January 11, 2018, 07:13:36 PM
I thought dingus was,

used to refer to something whose name the speaker cannot remember, is unsure of, or is humorously or euphemistically omitting.

"here's a doohickey?and there's the dingus"



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Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: eastman on January 11, 2018, 09:18:20 PM
I thought dingus was,

used to refer to something whose name the speaker cannot remember, is unsure of, or is humorously or euphemistically omitting.

"here's a doohickey?and there's the dingus"



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"Dingus" is a Latin technical term. 



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Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: ragingbulldaily on January 12, 2018, 04:04:38 AM
Thanks, was really trying to crack a joke, but again, thank you for furthering my knowledge base.

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Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: armoredman on January 12, 2018, 04:54:37 AM
Well, I was certain it came from the ancient Mongolian term, Ding-ge-hause, which meant "what do we call this thing".  ;D
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: ragingbulldaily on January 12, 2018, 04:59:33 AM
LMAO, sorry, but it's 4:55 am and that was down right funny. I wish you the best of day Armored. As I see it, we are already blessed to open our eyes to fight the Good Fight for another day. Here in Michigan I woke to 20+winds, snow, and literally iced over. It was almost 60? here yesterday and all the melting snow has turned to ice. Again, thanks for the laugh.

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Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: oldfrank on January 12, 2018, 07:00:52 PM
I went to the range last Wednesday to practice for an IDPA match on Sunday. It was 36 degrees and the wind was blowing.
I wore a pair of gloves from LAPG the entire time. Felt a little funny at first but I was still getting my hits and reloads went just fine. I think this was my first time shooting with gloves.

I wore the gloves all day sunday at the match and had no problems and it was pretty cold all day. I ended up 13 out of 38.

My dingus about froze both days!
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Rickytick on January 24, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
I shot my P10c  for the first time today. I had dry fired countless times with no issues. I did not understand comments about the  aggressive grips until the first 20 to 25 rounds, OUCH .  I put on gloves  and shot  decently but  sometimes the trigger seemed to hang up like it was dragging. After reading your post I think I wasn't  de-dingusing enough and until I did the trigger dragged.  Thanks for your post, now for talon grips or find a stipple person.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: sparks701 on January 24, 2018, 08:27:07 PM
I shot mine with gloves since I've gotten it. But it was 2 outside with -10 windchill. I use very this leather driving gloves. The only issue I noticed was the glove getting pulled under a bit. I mean almost stuck under the trigger. Not a lot but enough to notice. Never experienced any malfunctioning because of it but a bit annoying.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: K31Scout on January 26, 2018, 06:55:21 AM
I never wear gloves when I shoot, dingus or no dingus.  But my draw from concealed is really slow getting my thin gloves inside my jumbo mittens off and then finding the holstered gun under my parka!  That's life up here if you spend much time outdoors.:(
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: cremaley on January 28, 2018, 02:39:50 PM
Fortunately I've always lived in a climate where I have never had to use gloves when shooting handguns.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: md8232 on January 31, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
61? here today, but I dug out my PIG gloves http://www.skdtac.com/PIG-Full-Dexterity-Tactical-FDT-Alpha-Glove-p/pig.700.htm (http://www.skdtac.com/PIG-Full-Dexterity-Tactical-FDT-Alpha-Glove-p/pig.700.htm) and fired my suppressor ready P-10C with the stock trigger.  No problems at all, but these aren't heavy winter gloves either.

I even broke out the mower & cleaned up my shooting area, finding 5 cases I'd missed earlier.
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: armoredman on January 31, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
It was 78 degrees here today, warm weekend for "winter". ;)
Title: Re: P-10 and Gloves
Post by: Mastodon on February 01, 2018, 11:05:11 AM
Now y'all got me wondering if I should get a dingus.  :P