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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: 2ChihuahuasDad on January 18, 2018, 01:46:11 AM

Title: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: 2ChihuahuasDad on January 18, 2018, 01:46:11 AM
What  Steel  frame  CZ75  clones  donot  have  an external  safety?   THank  you  in  advance.
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: jwc007 on January 18, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
What  Steel  frame  CZ75  clones  donot  have  an external  safety?   THank  you  in  advance.

None that I am aware of.
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: DWARREN on January 18, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
I have seen none either but that does not mean there is not one out there some where.
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: DF_Hammack on January 18, 2018, 08:06:05 PM
I guess my question is... Are you looking for one, or do you have one? Frankly, I would also prefer no safety, but just because it has one, doesn't mean you have to use it. Personally, I believe a de-cocker makes more sense on a DA/SA pistol. As far as I am concerned, the double action trigger and firing pin block safety already makes it as safe as a revolver. The only time I use a safety is when I am at the range. It seems to reassure a few nervous nellies, though it never bothered them that the pistol I used before didn't have a safety...
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: MB on January 23, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
Sphinx. Frame is aluminum, not steel.
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: Walt Sherrill on January 23, 2018, 11:04:09 PM
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Sphinx. Frame is aluminum, not steel.

The Sphinx SDP, in addition to a two-part alloy/alloy frame, or a two-part alloy/polymer frame, is also available with a two-part Stainless Steel frame.   (I have an SDP with the alloy/poly frame.)  The older Sphinx (2000-series) models I owned at different times, had high-gloss stainless steel frames.

CZ also makes a steel-framed model equipped with a decocker --  the 75BD --  so if that's what someone wants why bother with a "clone"?   (None of the clones really should be called clones -- as they are not all that compatible -- they just share the same basic design.) 

I think that one version of the older Tanfoglio TZ-95/T-95/TA-95 could be had with a slide-mounted safety/decocker lever that worked like the lever on the 1st-3rd Generation S&W semi-autos. You could decock the hammer or put the gun on safe, but you couldn't safely carry the gun with the hammer cocked.   

I don't know much about the Turkish-made guns, or whether any of them have decockers or are made of steel.  (Never was all that interested in any of the other CZ pattern guns, except for a few Tanfoglio/Witness models and the Sphinx models.)
Title: Re: Cz Clones without External Safeties
Post by: DF_Hammack on January 24, 2018, 12:01:43 AM
Sorry, I missed the steel frame bit. As for Turkish guns, all of these guns have steel frames... Canik55/Tristar P Series and S Series, and the Sarsilmaz Kilinc 2000 and K2 Series. The SAR K12 is also steel, but I don think they are available here in the US. There are probably others, but these are the ones I know of. All have safeties, but as I said earlier, the safety is optional. You don't have to use it, and its placement does not make accidental engagement likely.
Just for the record, I have a Tristar P100. It is very well made, very accurate, has never had a malfunction, and is my EDC.