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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: thumper338 on January 30, 2018, 07:14:16 PM
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Should the firing pin safety drop fully in front of the face?
There's a slight angle in the face that pushes it up. If I pull back on the striker and release it, the striker moves forward past the safety.
I can take additional pics if needed, but this shows what I believe to be the issue that the firing pin safety does not fully engage.
Thanks,
--thumper338
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z0M_WmBRjefPpbLCluzZqJ65wSFNNV_moiBG5h7kPVNZUIf_XYs40lGxv1ZeGdb4RNsP8VhezMPtpL2rNLiudxFwbKjtXepzqllMw-MJZAtW5HOS5uOs1C29HkpMpEiyEsUzDs9VR-OBIf5ZNbXIE4AOL_BNbzZIZSli5SJsZKSeliiwtRs_pd36csa_ob40-pTQMgGk7mVMdzobLEMHrKeQzbfd-TBHh-2OBVwWTFYcZWejJlIdhBgOTT5AApUaxez-RXpTzcc-BeFCehicldDXzwSoujvN2zPXCtJoFZIZuJjRYaDucBQ6JNGxQJmTKZjHYpOWsk_292wAOdeYFk_wg9G-pG0W01ako3YhWl18CloywWQ5XsiYtLSRPivAsv19IYKYJ-2ZNfpmSOB2Ur7WHinFCvY03PiICsuKpMIgvZLT9qr1mCK8ikmbO5Ccm7vFqRML32bXutL0FhPylmcCEpoSQItk6NguTv-Ml9BRrWXPeNvLyxsGkO4LG8uUQsWAf5j7f0OyvCPocu5Hdw8U_ZR_giC-lgg67JFUif1H_EP9hMOHOu2gR1McxY8trBWeGwSr6ENnydBVqgtXOJtp-zYdnaai3oD6g6Gc=s945-no)
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Should the firing pin safety drop fully in front of the face?
There's a slight angle in the face that pushes it up. If I pull back on the striker and release it, the striker moves forward past the safety.
I can take additional pics if needed, but this shows what I believe to be the issue that the firing pin safety does not fully engage.
Thanks,
--thumper338
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z0M_WmBRjefPpbLCluzZqJ65wSFNNV_moiBG5h7kPVNZUIf_XYs40lGxv1ZeGdb4RNsP8VhezMPtpL2rNLiudxFwbKjtXepzqllMw-MJZAtW5HOS5uOs1C29HkpMpEiyEsUzDs9VR-OBIf5ZNbXIE4AOL_BNbzZIZSli5SJsZKSeliiwtRs_pd36csa_ob40-pTQMgGk7mVMdzobLEMHrKeQzbfd-TBHh-2OBVwWTFYcZWejJlIdhBgOTT5AApUaxez-RXpTzcc-BeFCehicldDXzwSoujvN2zPXCtJoFZIZuJjRYaDucBQ6JNGxQJmTKZjHYpOWsk_292wAOdeYFk_wg9G-pG0W01ako3YhWl18CloywWQ5XsiYtLSRPivAsv19IYKYJ-2ZNfpmSOB2Ur7WHinFCvY03PiICsuKpMIgvZLT9qr1mCK8ikmbO5Ccm7vFqRML32bXutL0FhPylmcCEpoSQItk6NguTv-Ml9BRrWXPeNvLyxsGkO4LG8uUQsWAf5j7f0OyvCPocu5Hdw8U_ZR_giC-lgg67JFUif1H_EP9hMOHOu2gR1McxY8trBWeGwSr6ENnydBVqgtXOJtp-zYdnaai3oD6g6Gc=s945-no)
In your picture is the striker pulled back? When I pull my striker back it looks exactly like yours does. When the striker if fully forward the striker moves forward of the safety. Not sure I have answered your question and would welcome a member with more knowledge that I have to chime in.
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The striker safety is the drop safety. it is only to keep the striker from going forward when the gun is dropped not if the striker is pulled back. Don't do things that it is not intended to do.
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I get that it is a drop safety and if the striker has been cocked it will be back further than where it sits in the photo resting against the safety and that it should only disengage when the trigger is pulled.
In the event of a drop that disengages the sear, without the trigger having been pulled, the striker will move forward under the force of the spring. My concern is that the safety does not engage the front face on the striker in a way that will ensure that the striker can not move forward.
There are two things here. The front face of the striker has a slight angle that allows the safety to ramp up. The other is that the safety does not seem to drop far enough to ensure full engagement.
--thumper338
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When you've removed the slide and you're playing with the striker, it's a different case than when the slide is on the frame. When you put the slide back on the frame and rack the slide, tension is put on the striker sear so the striker is pulled back far enough for the drop safety to fully engage. Just like when you pull the striker back farther manually.
Don't expect disassembled parts to behave the same as a completely assembled gun. You're over thinking this.
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Very true - the firearms is designed to operate as a unit, not two halves.
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Yeah, as long the gun is "cocked" and that little spring isn't damaged, the striker block will definitely be in place. That little spring is actually tougher than I had thought. Once I took the spring off, I was fighting it until I found the easy way to put it back on.
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It's just that the way that it engages the striker doesn't seem very positive.
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Take your slide off and pull the striker back with your thumb until the safety block "clicks" into place all the way. It isn't designed to secure the firing pin *at the point* in your picture. If you don't believe me then maybe an engineer can chime in. You can only look at things so closely until you can't. You won't see the safety block click into place because you can't see the way it's interacting with the striker until the slide is on the frame and ready to fire.
Simply because the block happens to catch on the striker at some mid point is irrelevant to how it actually operates when ready to fire.