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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ82 & CZ83 CLUB => Topic started by: JAKELEG on February 07, 2018, 07:30:33 PM
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Has anyone on the forum here bought the $20 plastic grips [in various colors] that are on Ebay? My grips are worn pretty smooth and not easy to hold on to. I thought about the grip tape, bed liner paint, sand blasting etc. but would prefer something close to "original"
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I bought a set of those a year or two back and they were garbage. Little pits/molding imperfections all over them and they would not fit the gun at all. I made the seller give me my money back and threw them out.
I think the design/geometry on the CZ-82/83 grip frame makes this gun super challenging as far as quality aftermarket grips.
I would just go with the official CZ-USA grips (which they still have for $20 or so I believe).
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Those look to be the same grips as those offered by www.tillandergungrips.com in my opinion. I have a set from Tillander, and I don't have a lot of positives to say about them. They're far from perfect and required quite a bit of fitting, but they were only $20, so I can't complain too much.
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Brownells and Midway sometimes have the walnut grips..Klinsky has some nice ones also...but be prepared to pay more than 20 bucks...
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My Tillander experience is just the opposite. One pair on my K2 and one pair on a Colt 1903 and both fit great and look great.
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I would agree with afultz075 about the CZ 83 frame layout and the challenges it presents for good grip manufacturing. My experience is with quite a few grips on a half-dozen frames that are both the older as well as the late production CZ 83 frames.
Agree on those Tillander grips having issues with fit. Have had to sand a couple and they never quite fit or felt right even after I was sent replacements. Just received wooden ones from Grips4u and while they fit on the frame, the inner dimensions make it very difficult to remove the magazine. The magazine barely budges when you push in on the mag release so you have to grab the mag base to pry it out. Have already spent lots of time sanding the insides of these grips and the mag will now just budge only half the time when the button is pushed. The mags for the 7.65 mm have a slightly different profile and seem to release much easier. Externally, there is a sharp edge on the lower front end of both grip panels that don?t match up well with the frame.
Marschal grips are expensive but fit well and magazines drop free. A couple of Klinsky grips have the same positive attributes for the CZ 83. However, I have also encountered issues with grips from Klinsky for the CZ 75 and Walther PP. Like the Grips4u ones for the CZ 83, it should not require this much fitting given the cost of these grips.
The carbon fiber ones from Prestige Grips are decent although they didn?t work on a particular 1986 frame as the safety was hindered from moving. Have also tried a couple of the cheaper, wooden ones on eBay from Thailand and they either were too thick internally and restricted the magazine or were too thin and cracked. This is the bane of CZ 83 owners who can?t leave the stock grips as is ??
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Has anyone on the forum here bought the $20 plastic grips [in various colors] that are on Ebay? My grips are worn pretty smooth and not easy to hold on to. I thought about the grip tape, bed liner paint, sand blasting etc. but would prefer something close to "original"
This seller (based in the Czech Republic) seems to be selling original CZ grips. I ordered a set about 3 weeks ago but unfortunately it will be another day or two before they arrive (based on tracking info). Will update once I get them.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CZECH-CZ82-83-GRIPS-COVERS-CZUB-factory-original-NEW/263398793049
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FWIW..I ordered a set of walnut grips for my 83 from CZ...had to sand the inside a bit to get the mag to drop free...but other than that, perfect fit and finish... The Klinskys for the CZ 70 had no issues at all...went right on just like OEM..
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Just received my grips from eBay. They were shipped from the Czech Republic and took 3-4 weeks to arrive.
Unfortunately they do not quite fit correctly and block the safety lever from going down. Looks like they would need some pretty serious modifications to work as they leave a sizable gap between the frame and grips near where the safety is.
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I ordered and received a really beautiful set of grips for my CZ83 .380 from Marschal grips a few years ago. Sadly, they were not even close to fitting correctly; and I returned them for credit. It's really too bad as they would have dressed up my CZ83 beautifully.
There is obviously a variation in the CZ83 frames.
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Has anyone on the forum here bought the $20 plastic grips [in various colors] that are on Ebay? My grips are worn pretty smooth and not easy to hold on to. I thought about the grip tape, bed liner paint, sand blasting etc. but would prefer something close to "original"
I bought a set of the Thialand hardwood grips from Amazon for my 75 PCR. After a minor adjustment on the screw holes, they fit perfect and look very nice with some nice grain that runs vertical.
I didn't want to spend $150. on grips but if I did, they would be Carl Nill grips that are made in Germany. Beautiful.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/f96d5c6fe772b4dcc085771528c10422.jpg)
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I ordered and received a really beautiful set of grips for my CZ83 .380 from Marschal grips a few years ago. Sadly, they were not even close to fitting correctly; and I returned them for credit. It's really too bad as they would have dressed up my CZ83 beautifully.
There is obviously a variation in the CZ83 frames.
That?s quite unfortunate to hear about your experience. I have tried 5 pairs of grips from Marschal for the CZ 83 and they have all worked nicely for a half dozen frames from the 80s, 90s and the newer production 2011-2012...a mix of .32 and .380 also. One grip developed a hairline crack (not around the screw hole) that I think could have been due to the grain pattern in the zebra wood for this particular one. He sent me a replacement with a different flow in the grain. I have had only one minor fitting issue with Marschal grips and that was for a PA-63 type frame.
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I ordered and received a really beautiful set of grips for my CZ83 .380 from Marschal grips a few years ago. Sadly, they were not even close to fitting correctly; and I returned them for credit. It's really too bad as they would have dressed up my CZ83 beautifully.
There is obviously a variation in the CZ83 frames.
That?s quite unfortunate to hear about your experience. I have tried 5 pairs of grips from Marschal for the CZ 83 and they have all worked nicely for a half dozen frames from the 80s, 90s and the newer production 2011-2012...a mix of .32 and .380 also.
Agree on the unfortunate experience! I plan to give the CZ USA Shop walnut grips a try just as soon as they get the required grip inserts back in stock.
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I ordered and received a really beautiful set of grips for my CZ83 .380 from Marschal grips a few years ago. Sadly, they were not even close to fitting correctly; and I returned them for credit. It's really too bad as they would have dressed up my CZ83 beautifully.
There is obviously a variation in the CZ83 frames.
That?s quite unfortunate to hear about your experience. I have tried 5 pairs of grips from Marschal for the CZ 83 and they have all worked nicely for a half dozen frames from the 80s, 90s and the newer production 2011-2012...a mix of .32 and .380 also.
Agree on the unfortunate experience! I plan to give the CZ USA Shop walnut grips a try just as soon as they get the required grip inserts back in stock.
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I got this wood grip from KSD about a year ago. They don?t seem to this style anymore, but they have others.
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The Ebay versions are junk.
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I just bought a set for my CZ 83 from czechoslovakia_1 on Ebay. I'll let you know if these are actually ORIGINAL as advertised.
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Setting price aside, is there a website that sells good looking wood grips for the 83 that are typically in stock? Somewhere with a high reputation for making grips that will fit without modification?
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Setting price aside, is there a website that sells good looking wood grips for the 83 that are typically in stock? Somewhere with a high reputation for making grips that will fit without modification?
Here ya go... http://www.klinsky.cz/
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Just some FYIs - Klinsky has an ?anatom? version that is a thicker grip (I like them for two-handed hold). I would say there?s a high probability you won?t encounter any fitting issues. They still might not accept credit cards but use bank transfers or PayPal (usually not a good exchange rate). I use a service like TransferWise to get the best rate and fees for international bank transfers.
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(L-R) - Marschal (Zebrawood); Grips4u (needed lots of internal sanding...very tight for inserting and removing magazines); Klinsky anatom. Personal preference ranking...Marschal, Klinsky. Not a fan of Grips4u design...besides the magazine issue, the Grips4u has a shape at the bottom front that doesn?t flow with the frame and makes for a slightly sharp edge.
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[Just some FYIs - Klinsky has an ?anatom? version that is a thicker grip (I like them for two-handed hold). I would say there?s a high probability you won?t encounter any fitting issues. They still might not accept credit cards but use bank transfers or PayPal (usually not a good exchange rate). I use a service like TransferWise to get the best rate and fees for international bank transfers. ]
Re:exchange rates...when I bought the grips for my '70, I checked the going rates, and when the transaction went thru, the rates were the same...pretty much what you would find anywhere else...maybe I was lucky that day... BTW...nice looking collection!!
My '70 with the Klinsky grips, they fit like a glove right out of then package...
https://imgur.com/fp8xQwc
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FWIW..I ordered a set of walnut grips for my 83 from CZ...had to sand the inside a bit to get the mag to drop free...but other than that, perfect fit and finish... The Klinskys for the CZ 70 had no issues at all...went right on just like OEM..
Has anyone else tried the CZ OEM walnut grips?
http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19109_Walnut-Checkered-Grips-83
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I bought a set of grips from an eBay seller that were removed from a commercial model CZ83 for my 88" milsurp 83 on which the grips were beat up.
What I noticed when the grips arrived what that the frame must have been modified during the course of the production run at CZ. So the angles of the frame where the grip contacts the pistol in the area of the safety need to be properly contoured for the frame.
It seems that grip fit will vary depending on year of manufacture as they clearly are not the same.
So if your buying after market grips make sure that they are appropriate for your production era.
I modified my grips and they now fit my milsurp gun perfectly. I have all the correct tools . I'm an instrument tech. So its not some huge deal for me.
I like the stock black plastic grips. I'm OK with that ...
Took about 20 minutes .
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Just put on the Walnut Checkered Grips from the Shop.cz-usa.com webstore. They fit very well. While not as pretty as those from Marschal, they do dress it up.
As an aside, the recommended grip inserts are NLA, but I used 1/4 x 1/8 x 1/16 #60 o-rings at the suggestion of the webstore manager instead.
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FWIW..I ordered a set of walnut grips for my 83 from CZ...had to sand the inside a bit to get the mag to drop free...but other than that, perfect fit and finish... The Klinskys for the CZ 70 had no issues at all...went right on just like OEM..
Has anyone else tried the CZ OEM walnut grips?
http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19109_Walnut-Checkered-Grips-83
I have them and they look good ( at least to me!) I may have given them a light sanding, but not sure. No mag issues.
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My grips are worn pretty smooth and not easy to hold on to. I thought about the grip tape, bed liner paint, sand blasting etc. but would prefer something close to "original"
My 82/83 grips are not worn smooth, but there are few substances more slippery than Czech black plastic. I applied two coats of truckbed liner to all three sets of grips and I like the result.
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I have a new original set of CZ-82 / 83 GRIPs from Czech that I could sell for $20.
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FWIW..I ordered a set of walnut grips for my 83 from CZ...had to sand the inside a bit to get the mag to drop free...but other than that, perfect fit and finish... The Klinskys for the CZ 70 had no issues at all...went right on just like OEM..
Has anyone else tried the CZ OEM walnut grips?
http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19109_Walnut-Checkered-Grips-83
I really like the original wooden grips. Mine are original to the gun, but look the same as those you linked. It does not constantly drop magazines free, O-rings I think will fix this or the magazines that came with it may be suspect. If a PPK and a CZ-75 had a baby, this would be it.
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The guy I mentioned in 82 parts might be able to get new factory grips. I also saw some custom grips on www.grips4u.net. Hope this helps
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I'm happy with the ebay grips. I'm not running around doing drills & it lives in my nightstand all dressed up.
What do you want for 20 bucks ?
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As long as you're happy with them, that's all that counts.
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I bought the CZ USA grips for my 82?s. The wood grips fit perfectly, and really dress it up. The plastic grips, I bought two sets, required some dremel work on the upper rear to fit. I think the plastic must fit the 83 better. The wood are so nice ($62 delivered) I ordered a second pair.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/0d2a8698406d275f5f92937fe0f7b82d.jpg)
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Yes, yes they are. They really look great.
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I suggest using the Hogue Handall Full Size Grip #43108 17000 (http://)
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And cover that beautiful wood? Perish the thought!
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Hey all,
I just ordered some grips from klinsky. It didn't take me to a payment page. Will they send me an invoice to checkout? Thanks!
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Hey all,
I just ordered some grips from klinsky. It didn't take me to a payment page. Will they send me an invoice to checkout? Thanks!
It’s been a couple years ago since I purchased online from them. They sent me an email referencing the order and the PayPal address as well as other bank transfer options for payment. There are more (and better) options these days than PayPay but their website still seems to show a preference for PayPal.
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I suggest using the Hogue Handall Full Size Grip #43108 17000 (http://)
I forgot to mention, they go on upside down than intended, for the perfect fit.
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I have a set of the cheap ebay grips that came on an 82 I picked up at a show. Fortunately the pistol also came with the original grips, which are now back on the pistol as the cheap grips looked like Fido's behind. They did however seem to fit properly, just ugly as heck. Kind of a brown-ish gold color.
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https://imgur.com/a/FMfEp4d
Got these off ebay for $59. They fit perfectly w/o any sanding. Thai specials, but I couldn't find CZ factory ones.
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I just returned a set of $25 grips from Ebay. The holes were too big to hold the screw and the finish was dull.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CZ-83-pistol-grips-black-plastic/133521340750?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225085%26meid%3D2a92c1698bde44298000468a1ac64057%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D362921057921%26itm%3D133521340750%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2053904%26brand%3DUnbranded%2FGeneric&_trksid=p2053904.c100227.m3827
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I just returned a set of $25 grips from Ebay. The holes were too big to hold the screw and the finish was dull.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CZ-83-pistol-grips-black-plastic/133521340750?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225085%26meid%3D2a92c1698bde44298000468a1ac64057%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D362921057921%26itm%3D133521340750%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2053904%26brand%3DUnbranded%2FGeneric&_trksid=p2053904.c100227.m3827
Those are garbage. I returned a set of those when I bought a pair to try 3 or 4 years ago.
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I ordered and received a really beautiful set of grips for my CZ83 .380 from Marschal grips a few years ago. Sadly, they were not even close to fitting correctly; and I returned them for credit. It's really too bad as they would have dressed up my CZ83 beautifully.
There is obviously a variation in the CZ83 frames.
He has modified his build for these. 82 and 83 grips are not quite the same. The right grip on the 82 is a little thicker under the safety.
He had to modify twice since he was assuming they were the same and his fix for fitting the 83 caused them to crack on 82s.
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Just got a set of new original CZ-USA grips from Numrich for $21.50 and $8 shipping, and they look perfect!