The Original CZ Forum
GENERAL => Right to Keep and Bear Arms => Topic started by: CZATC on March 23, 2018, 08:49:54 PM
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Mods, I am sorry if I am breaching protocol placing this link, I could not find anywhere that prohibited such.
This is a link to Gun Owners of America take action page where you can put your address in and it will generate the letter, that you may modify, to send to your senators and pres. Trump. I have been bombarding my representatives and honestly shocked, all of TN Republicans either voted yea or did not vote except my district who voted NO which was in line with the 2 Democrats in the state. Remember this was/is basically a budget type vote for the year that then had 'fix nics' and 'baker act' type stuff added right before being sent to the reps.
It's my opinion that the Republicans didn't read all 2200 pages and all they saw was defense spending and just tried to push it through while Dems saw the same thing and didn't notice the gun control stuff and pumped the brakes. It's a set up. Fight is in Senate now so the more people that bring it up and push to stop it and get it vetoed as last resort the better.
I honestly don't agree with all the spending too but that topic is for another forum
GOA link:
https://gunowners.org/alert032218e.htm
House results on omnibus:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll124.xml
See how your folks voted or if they were cowards and did not, and hold them accountable. Email and call. I really think it worked but it's a shame it didn't die in the house because it will be harder to fight in the Senate.
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Yea I see my good for nothing reps in Ohio voted for this. Calling these people does no good as they do what "they" think is best for "us". I just can't post what I'm feeling at the moment. Hate these people.
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It appears that the original fix nics bill and the one included are very different. This one has nothing about seniors, military or allowing the CDC to study and recommend on gun control. It mostly is about giving money to help some states and organizations make sure all that should be included in nicks base is done.
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What organizations?
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Army, Navy, Air Force, in all government, think Texas Church shooting.State that currently do not report.
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Under state and local law enforcement assistance heading
"(9) $75,000,000 for grants to States to upgrade criminal and mental health records for the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, of which no less than $25,000,000 shall be for grants made under the authorities of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (Public Law 110-180);"
Under fix NICS-
" (g) Technical Assistance.--The Attorney General shall direct the Office of Justice Programs, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to-- ``(1) assist States that are not currently eligible for grants under this section to achieve compliance with all eligibility requirements; and ``(2) provide technical assistance and training services to grantees under this section.''
" (e) Incentives.--For each of fiscal years 2018 through 2022, the Attorney General shall give affirmative preference to all Bureau of Justice Assistance discretionary grant applications of a State or Indian tribal government that received a determination of substantial compliance under subsection (c) for the fiscal year in which the grant was solicited.''
``For purposes of the preceding sentence, not later than 60 days after the date on which the Attorney General receives such information, the Attorney General shall determine whether or not the prospective transferee is the subject of an erroneous record and remove any records that are determined to be erroneous. In addition to any funds made available under subsection (k), the Attorney General may use such sums as are necessary and otherwise available for the salaries and expenses of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to comply with this subsection.''.
Under title V stop school violence act -
. 2706. RULES OF CONSTRUCTION. ``(a) No Funds To Provide Firearms or Training.--No amounts provided as a grant under this part may be used for the provision to any person of a firearm or training in the use of a firearm. ``(b) No Effect on Other Laws.--Nothing in this part may be construed to preclude or contradict any other provision of law authorizing the provision of firearms or training in the use of firearms.''.
It does seem toned down compared to what was being talked about. At least they put some time limits on appeals but dang 2 months and it's one person the AG. It also allows for physical hardening of schools with metal detectors, locks, etc.
However, I am not a fan of ATF and FBI helping anyone locally at all. Its just an invite for data mining. One has dropped the ball to much to be trusted, including the recent Parkland shooting. The other changes it's mind every other month what intent means and legislates as a bureaucratic entity as well as keeps private data longer than they are supposed to.
Aside from that, shouldn't the incentive be to, you know, prevent an illegal activity that leads to murder? That's like incentivizing record keeping in healthcare; you keep em to provide consistent high quality care and track outcomes to improve your delivery of services not to get a bonus or wink wink head nod when applying for a loan to get that new office open. It also does stipulate no monies may be used to procure firearms or firearms training.
Could have been worse. Good talking points though, the issues closer to home like whether your state has or wants Baker Act type legislation that may be easily abused, a desire to ban semi autos, impose absurd magazine capacity limitations, etc. Are the more sinister concerns. These bills can just give restrictive states the means to execute things like that with federal monies.
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Drifting a wee bit away from the purpose here, just a wee bit.