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GENERAL => Right to Keep and Bear Arms => Topic started by: armoredman on April 28, 2018, 03:48:13 AM

Title: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: armoredman on April 28, 2018, 03:48:13 AM
But ONLY for felons who were non-violent and never spent any time in prison. Might chill the trend of "everything is a felony" if it does do what they want it to do, anymore. I support this.
https://reason.com/assets/db/15248473798653.pdf
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: rhart on April 28, 2018, 06:45:15 AM
I think this is a good thing.
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: DWARREN on April 28, 2018, 02:53:46 PM
Well felons are their voter base along with the dead!
Should have to go thru a hard review to get this right restored but if they pass the review their rights should be restored.
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on April 29, 2018, 06:42:43 AM
The way the constitution is written no one should have any right suspended or revoked. If a person commits a crime and serves their time/pays their fine and any restitution involved they should have the chance to enter back in to society with the same rights and opportunities as any one else.
This notion of banning guns from criminals has been an abject failure. Hardened criminals ALWAYS find ways to get weapons to carry out their crimes. The law stops none of those types and only imposes restrictions on the law abiding.
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: rhart on April 29, 2018, 08:09:15 AM
The way the constitution is written no one should have any right suspended or revoked. If a person commits a crime and serves their time/pays their fine and any restitution involved they should have the chance to enter back in to society with the same rights and opportunities as any one else.
This notion of banning guns from criminals has been an abject failure. Hardened criminals ALWAYS find ways to get weapons to carry out their crimes. The law stops none of those types and only imposes restrictions on the law abiding.

I agree 100%. Pay your debt to society and receive full restitution of rights. Violent offenders should get 2A rights after a rigid review, but nonviolent offenders should get them back automatically upon successful completion of all requirements.
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: noway on June 09, 2018, 08:15:08 AM
The way the constitution is written no one should have any right suspended or revoked. If a person commits a crime and serves their time/pays their fine and any restitution involved they should have the chance to enter back in to society with the same rights and opportunities as any one else.
This notion of banning guns from criminals has been an abject failure. Hardened criminals ALWAYS find ways to get weapons to carry out their crimes. The law stops none of those types and only imposes restrictions on the law abiding.

I agree 100%. Pay your debt to society and receive full restitution of rights. Violent offenders should get 2A rights after a rigid review, but nonviolent offenders should get them back automatically upon successful completion of all requirements.

Paying your dues may not mean as much these days, given credit-time while in prison and time cuts for programs. Certainly prisons aren't what they used to be.

I see plenty of repeat offenders in my line of work, many of whom have multiple violent offenses. I can think of many who should NEVER legally have access to a firearm in this life (and should never get out of prison, but the Legislature and courts have ensured that they'll be out again, and reoffending).

Interesting also to look at the list of common law felonies in place at the time of the writing of the Bill of Rights. At least one is not even a crime any more (AFAIK).
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: larryflew on June 09, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
My hunting buddy from days past transported weed across state lines. They decided it was a large enough quantity to distribute so he ended up with jail time and a felony record. Many $$ and LONG time later he was finally able to get his record expunged and allowed to one again own firearms.
Title: Re: Interesting - IL District Court rules in favor of 2A for felons
Post by: Swamp ash on June 25, 2018, 12:04:54 PM
Unless you commit violent crimes using a weapon, there is really no reason this Right should not be restored upon completion of someone's sentence.