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Title: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Varooom on December 29, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
Hello all,

Going to order my first CZ next week, the gun shop I like to use is closed for the holidays.

I am going to be ordering a Shadow 2 for USPSA Production.  I have many weapons but this will be my first CZ.

I like the urban gray color but wondering how the finish holds up.

I understand this weapon is only a tool and will get scratched up but is it an overly soft finish?

I also understand it will show dirt and get black.  I am ok with that as long as it cleans it up well after shooting.

Thanks for your time,

Varooom
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: briang2ad on December 29, 2018, 02:26:40 PM
Good question - I've asked before but no real answer.  I THINK it is polycoat which is a good paint.  Its OK. 

Cerakote would be mush better, and PVD better yet. 
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: George16 on December 29, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
The urban gray wears off faster compared to the black shadow 2. Both of them cleans up really easy. I strip and clean them with brake parts cleaner and blow it with compressed air after about 2-3k rounds. Then I oil it up and use slide glide on the rails.
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: LarryBoy on December 29, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
I have the Shadow 2 in Urban Grey and yes you will see holster wear fairly quickly. I shoot usually 4-5 matches a month and do a lot of dry fire practice so the gun is getting a lot of use. The wear doesn't bother me, I like a gun that looks like its being used.
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Matt101 on December 30, 2018, 06:02:02 AM
Good question - I've asked before but no real answer.  I THINK it is polycoat which is a good paint.  Its OK. 

Cerakote would be mush better, and PVD better yet.

The Urban Grey finish is Cerakote which is why you’ll get holster wear with use.

The CZ polycoat is much better.


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Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on January 01, 2019, 10:44:43 AM
Good question - I've asked before but no real answer.  I THINK it is polycoat which is a good paint.  Its OK. 

Cerakote would be mush better, and PVD better yet.

The Urban Grey finish is Cerakote which is why you’ll get holster wear with use.

The CZ polycoat is much better.


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I thought cerakote was tougher than polycoat?
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Matt101 on January 01, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
I’ve never seen a polycoat CZ wear through the finish but I’ve seen plenty of Urban Greys with bad holster wear.




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Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: briang2ad on January 01, 2019, 02:59:40 PM
I don’t  believe CZ.UB CERAKOTES anything-
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Matt101 on January 02, 2019, 07:18:20 AM
I don’t  believe CZ.UB CERAKOTES anything-

Cerakote/Durakote/Paint same thing


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Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: briang2ad on January 02, 2019, 08:26:51 AM
Cerakote is paint as is Duracoat as is Polycoat.  No intention to imply otherwise.  They are not equal.

Cerakote is more durable than CZ Polycoat.  The words are not interchangeable. 
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Matt101 on January 02, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
Cerakote is paint as is Duracoat as is Polycoat.  No intention to imply otherwise.  They are not equal.

Cerakote is more durable than CZ Polycoat.  The words are not interchangeable.

Whatever makes you feel better. Doesn’t explain all the Urban Greys with the finish worn off from holster use... you know, the ones that actually get used for the purpose that they were intended.

I know Polycoat guns with 10 times the amount of use on them that don’t show the same wear. Now how can that be


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Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: briang2ad on January 02, 2019, 09:59:49 AM
The point is that we DON'T know what CZ uses on the UG finish.  We THINK it is Polycoat - and maybe in this form it is 'not good' in that color and appears less durable. 

Again, I really don't think the UG is Cerakote. 

What would make ME 'feel good?'  Nitriding or PVD.
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Raining_Brass on January 02, 2019, 01:12:47 PM
Urban Grey is not cerakote. It's polycoat just like CZ's normal black polycoat is.

Polycoat = powder coat over phosphate.

You're welcome. ;)
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: CrazyDave on January 02, 2019, 02:09:42 PM
Hello all,

Going to order my first CZ next week, the gun shop I like to use is closed for the holidays.

I am going to be ordering a Shadow 2 for USPSA Production.  I have many weapons but this will be my first CZ.

I like the urban gray color but wondering how the finish holds up.

I understand this weapon is only a tool and will get scratched up but is it an overly soft finish?

I also understand it will show dirt and get black.  I am ok with that as long as it cleans it up well after shooting.

Thanks for your time,

Varooom
Without getting into the name game....it is not the most durable coating, but it is decent.  Thick and easily flaked off compared to better choices, but not horrible.   A drop, bang, or sight mounting will cause wear immediately.
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: mountainrider on January 02, 2019, 07:46:21 PM
I see no new wear since applying the 3m paint guard

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=100393.msg781382#msg781382

(https://i.imgur.com/JtsfHZb.jpg)
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Highway67 on January 03, 2019, 08:22:04 PM
I like the UG finish...It's been wearing well on my CZ75 SP-01 Tactical riding in a Safari land kydex holster...One issue I did run into early-on with this gun was extraction. With multiple bullet weights and types it appeared that the extractor was pulling off the case rim before clearing the chamber.  Issue was occurring on nearly every mag I ran through it.  I pondered sending it back to CZ for maintenance, but instead pulled the extractor and inspected...The coating/finish in the extractor channel appeared to be a little thick.  I cleaned some of it out and reinstalled the extractor, and the issue disappeared.  Runs great now...I ordered some Wolff extra powered extractor springs, but have yet to install one, because the issue is gone.   
Title: Re: Urban Gray finish?
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on January 05, 2019, 10:47:34 AM
[quote author=CrazyDave
Without getting into the name game....it is not the most durable coating, but it is decent.  Thick and easily flaked off compared to better choices, but not horrible.   A drop, bang, or sight mounting will cause wear immediately.
[/quote]

Sounds a lot like Beretta's bruniton finish.