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Title: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: black43 on January 28, 2019, 09:20:49 PM
Looking to get a 1911 eventually.. I don't want to spend more than 1k, I would only use it to mess around at the range. What's the best 1911 under 1k? If I just want a decent 1911, how much would I realistically have to spend?
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Highway67 on January 28, 2019, 09:36:43 PM
At that price point you cannot go wrong with a Springfield Range Officer in 45 or 9mm...You can get out the door for around $750 and have some cash for ammo...The RO offers a match grade trigger and barrel, and a few upgraded internals above their standard model...Mine are real dependable tack drivers...
If you really want to save some catch look at a Rock Island (RIA) TacII Ultra...Great accurate gun and is untouchable for the price...You can find GI spec models for around $500, and ramped-up models for less than $650...
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 29, 2019, 04:46:42 AM
I'd go for any of the springfield models in the under 1K range. Even the base model mil-specs are great shooters out of the box.
There are some Colt models available in that price range but the examples I've had needed much reworking to be reliable. There are quite a few other brands also in that price range but they always have questionable reliability.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: CrazyDave on January 29, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Years ago I would of said Springfield. The last two new Springfields I have shot have been over $1000 and relatively poor overall. Their customer service is almost rude.  I've bought my last Springfield, 100%.   Personally, I am waiting for the EAA Girsan .45 1911 to come out.  Check out the FN FNX, it's 1911-ish, sorta and my favorite Pistol.  Anymore with gun manufacturers, get one you like from someone with good customer service. Then if there is a problem it will be solved without hassle.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 29, 2019, 08:08:07 AM
I've not heard anything good about customer service from EAA maybe they've improved in recent years. The FN FNX is nice pistol but to say it's 1911 ish is like saying a semi auto is revolver ish. They just aren't the same thing.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Ruber on January 29, 2019, 09:29:17 AM
There are lots of good choices in that price range and a lot depends on the user.

If you get the chance, try out as many as possible to see what features you want.... e.g. ambi safety, extended slide lock, beavertail, sights, etc.   Those things can be changed over time, but the more you like it out of the box, the more you will shoot it.

Also, different brands have different frames when it comes to heft and feel.  Ya, parts may be interchangeable, but a Springfield, Colt, and S&W with similar grips & components will all have a slightly different heft and feel to them.

There is nothing magical with any company, I’ve seen $1,000 lemons from Springfield and 100% reliable $450 Rocks.

Do note that going from a GI model to one with a beavertail is a pain, and some companies may have some parts interchangeability issues (para comes to mind, don’t know if that is still the case).

And remember... it’s your first one, don’t go overboard or over think it, you will want different features/upgrades after shooting it for a while.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Vinny on January 29, 2019, 09:35:59 AM
I've not heard anything good about customer service from EAA maybe they've improved in recent years. The FN FNX is nice pistol but to say it's 1911 ish is like saying a semi auto is revolver ish. They just aren't the same thing.
+1
I have both 45ACP and 9mm SA's. Very true to John Browning's original Colt design.

But as much as I like my SA's, I really enjoy shooting my FN-FNX45 Tactical 15+1. John Browning helped launch the FN Herstal factory a century ago, and I believe he'd be proud of what they've wrought. FN's entry for the US Military's sidearm competition several years ago, after a century of technical improvements.
But yes, apples and oranges.
(https://i.imgur.com/vs90XJn.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: CrazyDave on January 29, 2019, 10:12:02 AM
I've not heard anything good about customer service from EAA maybe they've improved in recent years. The FN FNX is nice pistol but to say it's 1911 ish is like saying a semi auto is revolver ish. They just aren't the same thing.

Well jeez, lets put our thinking caps on here. EAA.  They import arms from different countries and manufacturers.  They have the logistics to deal with.   You might not get overnight service.   The FNX has been compared to a 1911 about a million times online.  It also replaced a 1911 at my nightstand.  If your use to training or working with a 1911 it is a easy transition.  To say a FNX is more like a revolver than a 1911 is just ignorant. 
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 29, 2019, 10:27:35 AM
I've not heard anything good about customer service from EAA maybe they've improved in recent years. The FN FNX is nice pistol but to say it's 1911 ish is like saying a semi auto is revolver ish. They just aren't the same thing.

Well jeez, lets put our thinking caps on here. EAA.  They import arms from different countries and manufacturers.  They have the logistics to deal with.   You might not get overnight service.   The FNX has been compared to a 1911 about a million times online.  It also replaced a 1911 at my nightstand.  If your use to training or working with a 1911 it is a easy transition.  To say a FNX is more like a revolver than a 1911 is just ignorant.
That not what I said. I suppose if you go back and re-read what I wrote you'll clearly see I said it's like saying a semi-auto is revolver ish.
The FN FNX while some may compare it to a 1911 is not even close and they are just plain different platforms. The FN being DA/SA and staggered mag design and the 1911 being SA only and singe stack.
As far as EAA goes their customer service was very poor at one point and had nothing to do with who they import from and as I stated maybe at this point they have improved.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Vinny on January 29, 2019, 10:47:30 AM
The FNX can be run single-action only with safety, or depress the safety further downward and it decocks the pistol onto DA/SA mode. Really nice setup IMHO, and unlike Beretta's bass-awkwards design you can ride the safety down on the draw like a 1911.

There are a lot of subtle refinements on the FNX if you look closely. Fully ambi controls, really nice SR tritium sights that also co-witness an optic-ready slide cut, threaded barrel, adjustable backstrap, undercut trigger guard and 'beavertail' for high grip, durable nitrided barrel and slide, light-rail, slightly flared magwell, ohh and did I say 15+1 with a grip that's only 1.32" wide.

But, it's NOT a 1911 if you're a purist.
However, if you just like superb firearms....you might say it's a 1911 on steroids.  O0
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 29, 2019, 10:59:47 AM
The FNX can be run single-action only with safety, or depress the safety further downward and it decocks the pistol onto DA/SA mode. Really nice setup IMHO, and unlike Beretta's bass-awkwards design you can ride the safety down on the draw like a 1911.

There are a lot of subtle refinements on the FNX if you look closely. Fully ambi controls, really nice SR tritium sights that also co-witness an optic-ready slide cut, threaded barrel, adjustable backstrap, undercut trigger guard and 'beavertail' for high grip, durable nitrided barrel and slide, slightly flared magwell, ohh and did I say 15+1 with a grip that's only 1.32" wide.

But, it's NOT a 1911 if you're a purist.

Agreed. I'm not knocking the FN in any way it's just not the same as a 1911 any more than a glock is the same as a hammer fired gun. I got rid of my 1911's but still have DA/SA .45's and like that style better. Different platforms are different platforms. I probably won't ever go back to a 1911 but I won't be getting rid of my CZ 97BD or Sig P227 any time soon.
As much as I've liked 1911's they just don't  fit me and  I like a grip with more girth.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: recoilguy on January 29, 2019, 11:11:14 AM
I own a Rock Island Ultra FS in 9 mm...…. under 1000 bucks....by 350 bucks under $1000 and a very good and reliable hand gun.
I heard so much rumblings on the internet about how "bad" Rock Island  guns were that I bought a Para Expert .45 (for under 1000 bucks as well) and was and still am very happy with that gun. It is a great shooter and it eats ant .45 ACP ammo I have purchased or made for her. Match grade barrel puts hoes in holes. Nice gun!!!!!
Then my buddy bought at .9mm RI Ultra Tactical (with a rail and double stacked) and I shot it. The very next day I bought the 9mm Ultra FS and I will tell you this. It is a very good gun. Not for the money, but the fact that is less expensive then a lot of guns that require a lot of work to equal this guns trigger and reliability is a big plus. If you aren't happy with a Ultra FS from RI you can easily get your money back and you probably will need to spend more then 1000 bucks to get happy.

This is just the opinion of this poster and is not or does not represent an endorsement or even advise. I just call it like I see it, and I see this gun at the range with me often.

RCG
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Mad_Max on January 29, 2019, 11:12:10 AM
I wouldn't buy a Springfield because they gave money to anti-gun politicians in Illinois in exchange for favors. But that's a subject for another thread.
I had a Springfield Loaded 1911 that was total garbage, couldn't get through a box of ammo without having some kind of malfunction.
I love my Ruger SR1911. It's under $1000, it looks great and it's been the most reliable semi-automatic handgun I've ever owned.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/36c244c21fb1bf965c657753efe2671a.jpg)
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Vinny on January 29, 2019, 11:19:24 AM
I wouldn't buy a Springfield because they gave money to anti-gun politicians in Illinois in exchange for favors. But that's a subject for another thread.
I had a Springfield Loaded 1911 that was total garbage, couldn't get through a box of ammo without having some kind of malfunction.
I love my Ruger SR1911. It's under $1000, it looks great and it's been the most reliable semi-automatic handgun I've ever owned.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/36c244c21fb1bf965c657753efe2671a.jpg)
+1
I have to admit the trigger on a friend's Ruger SR1911 is very impressive out of the box. Overall very nice finish and softened edges. I got my SA's before their blunder. None since.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: 2bfree on January 29, 2019, 02:13:26 PM
I also would recommend the Ruger SR1911. Mine has been trouble free.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/76601/Firearms/Handguns/Ruger/Ruger+Pistols/Ruger+SR1911+8%2B1+45ACP+5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAZ5EYxpl2o
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: black43 on January 29, 2019, 02:18:50 PM
I have the 75B omega in 9mm. My thought would be to get a 1911 chambered in 9mm so I could just bulk buy 1 ammo for both guns. Is that a good thought, or is a true 1911 only chambered in 45?
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 29, 2019, 02:28:13 PM
I have the 75B omega in 9mm. My thought would be to get a 1911 chambered in 9mm so I could just bulk buy 1 ammo for both guns. Is that a good thought, or is a true 1911 only chambered in 45?

No there have been many and still are very many true 1911's chambered in 9mm really they are quite common place. Nothing wrong with a 9mm 1911 at all. Years ago many 1911's where chambered in .38 super auto. Many today can be had in 10mm as well and an outfit called Guncrafter was making them in .50 cal but I do not know if those are still available.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: recoilguy on January 29, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
I have the 75B omega in 9mm. My thought would be to get a 1911 chambered in 9mm so I could just bulk buy 1 ammo for both guns. Is that a good thought, or is a true 1911 only chambered in 45?

The Rock Island Ultra FS 1911 chambered in 9mm is an awesome gun. very reasonable and will eat any 9mm the CZ will eat.

(http://i.imgur.com/dzduORg.png) (https://imgur.com/dzduORg)

https://www.swfa.com/rock-island-armory-1911-tac-ii-9mm-5-vz-grip-9rd.html (https://www.swfa.com/rock-island-armory-1911-tac-ii-9mm-5-vz-grip-9rd.html)

This one is it
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Ruber on January 29, 2019, 03:37:21 PM
I have the 75B omega in 9mm. My thought would be to get a 1911 chambered in 9mm so I could just bulk buy 1 ammo for both guns. Is that a good thought, or is a true 1911 only chambered in 45?
Because you want a heavier, less reliable, lower capacity, more expensive gun that can do less????

All kidding aside, if you just want the looks, that is one way to go.  If you want to push 9mm to its maximum potential, I think the 1911 is a good platform, but you would be looking at more expensive guns.  Dealing with ramped vs unramped barrels, limited parts interchange should be considered.

Yes, I like 9mm 1911’s, I just would not recommend it as someone’s first 1911.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Ron M. on January 29, 2019, 06:34:57 PM
Ruger's 1911 is a very good for the money 1911. Take a look at the Night Watchman version, you can find them for under $1K at several places.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: CrazyDave on January 29, 2019, 07:16:16 PM
After some thought, they are not mine, but I have shot three new Remington 1911's....All ran great out of the box with a failure to do anything.  The trigger could use some work on even the best models, but it's a 1911, so it's still good.    I think most gunsmiths would work on one too.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Luvdog on January 29, 2019, 07:28:52 PM
For me, I’d be looking for an original used Colt Gold Cup National Match Series 70 for that price. 
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: eastman on January 29, 2019, 10:09:55 PM
I have both the full sized and commander sized SR1911 pistols and recommend them.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Earl Keese on January 29, 2019, 10:29:02 PM
For me, I’d be looking for an original used Colt Gold Cup National Match Series 70 for that price.
Don't see those in my area for under a grand. Not even close.

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Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: copemech on January 29, 2019, 11:46:49 PM
For me, I’d be looking for an original used Colt Gold Cup National Match Series 70 for that price.
Don't see those in my area for under a grand. Not even close.

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you want one?
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Earl Keese on January 30, 2019, 06:17:53 AM
For me, I’d be looking for an original used Colt Gold Cup National Match Series 70 for that price.
Don't see those in my area for under a grand. Not even close.

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you want one?
Nah, I've just come across a few recently. Nice guns, but 1911's aren't my thing. If I buy/build another it'll be a 2011.

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Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: osubuckeye78 on January 30, 2019, 07:11:55 AM
You should be able to find used Dan Wessons for right around 1k
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: motorcyclist on January 30, 2019, 08:39:45 AM
Have a S.A. 9mm range officer that has been very good. Ran IDPA with it for a few years. Had a S.A. loaded in 45acp. Liked the R.O. more. Have 2 Sigs, both in 45acp. A basic XO and a fastback nightmare carry 9 (commander). Some hate the non traditional slide shape, some just hate Sig. Both have been excellent for me. All my 1911's have the trigger parts worked on a Ed Brown jig and ambi safeties add (left handed).
Have friends with R.I.A.'s and for the money, tough to beat. 
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: RockSemiAuto on January 30, 2019, 09:00:06 AM
I have a Ruger Sr1911 lightweight commander chambered in 9mm. I bought it last year for $729.99. I have put about 500 rounds through it with no problems. The only thing that I did not like about the gun was the rubber grips; however, that was an easy fix with some VZ grips. It is a great shooter and I am happy with it. My father-in-law also has a Ruger SR1911 Commander Stainless in .45. I have shot that a few times and liked it as well.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: oldfrank on January 30, 2019, 11:02:30 AM
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I have two Springfields and a Kimber. All have been great. I would say Kimber but a good one might push you past your budget goal.

I love this Lighweight Champion Operator from Springfield. It carries and shoots great. My other is just a Parkerized Loaded and it has been a great gun. One of my Stepsons has it right now and I probably will end up giving it to him.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Mad_Max on January 30, 2019, 01:03:47 PM
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I have two Springfields and a Kimber. All have been great. I would say Kimber but a good one might push you past your budget goal.

I love this Lighweight Champion Operator from Springfield. It carries and shoots great. My other is just a Parkerized Loaded and it has been a great gun. One of my Stepsons has it right now and I probably will end up giving it to him.
They've got lots of Kimbers on Bud's Gun Shop for less than $1000. I've never owned one but I've heard good things. They make some nice looking guns.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/categories.php?cat=40

If you're on this forum, I assume you like CZs. Have you thought about getting a CZ 97?
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: jwc007 on January 30, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
Citadel Tactical 1911 - MSRP $649  SI Review: https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2011/4/13/citadel-m-1911/

(https://assets.shootingillustrated.com/media/1537132/xw7495_si_citadel1911_03161.jpg?preset=article)

These are built to a higher standard of fit and finish over your typical RIA manufacture.  I have an early one and it's been great now since 2012.
Very very Feed Reliable and very accurate for a 1911!


Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: black43 on January 30, 2019, 06:58:59 PM
I like the 97, and might get that eventually for a 45 but I want a 1911 because it's a classic.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Ruber on January 30, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
If your goal is simply to own a chunk of history, peruse the shops looking for an old GI or Colt and have some fun with it.

If you are looking for modern materials & good warranty, the Rocks and Springfield mil spec guns are great values and pretty true to the classic designs.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: Chuck James on January 30, 2019, 10:06:09 PM
Take a look at the Ruger line of 1911's. They are very nice for the money. I have a Colt 1911 Government model I've put thousands of rounds through and the Ruger 1911 Government model has been just as good with several thousand rounds fired through it as well. The Colt sports quite a few aftermarket parts where as the Ruger is straight out of the box stock.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: pewpew4life on January 30, 2019, 11:06:06 PM
I'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned Sig 1911's. Sig makes quite a few sub $1000 1911's that are very nice. My Sig 1911 Tac Ops was my very first gun ever and it's great. Give them a look.

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Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: motorcyclist on January 31, 2019, 06:43:37 AM
I'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned Sig 1911's. Sig makes quite a few sub $1000 1911's that are very nice. My Sig 1911 Tac Ops was my very first gun ever and it's great. Give them a look.

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Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: pewpew4life on January 31, 2019, 08:13:19 AM
I'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned Sig 1911's. Sig makes quite a few sub $1000 1911's that are very nice. My Sig 1911 Tac Ops was my very first gun ever and it's great. Give them a look.

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Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: twowheels on February 01, 2019, 03:23:41 PM
Hands down the best 1911 you are going to get for around $1000 is a Dan Wesson Heritage.  There are a couple on GB in that range currently.   The build and parts quality can't be approached by any other gun in that price range, with its forged frame and slide, tool steel parts, series 70 configuration, and sight quality.  They are stainless only if that bothers you.  The Springfield Range Officer is about the closest you will get but they are pretty rough compared to the DW, even though with some loving, polishing and tuning they are great shooters.  But they still will lack the tool steel parts of the Heritage.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: adrian on February 06, 2019, 10:37:06 PM
     Hiya Black and thx for the popular thread. Reminding ya to have your short list of favorites and go check pawn shops and gun shops that have consignments. Just like cars, if ya can handle it being pre owned, you reap the savings. Think my sig Natino was 1400, cz 1911 bout 2,200, and the cz 97b accu 1600, so just keep an eye out and make some offers when do do find one ya like. Only thing I didn't care for with the 45s is the mag capacity, felt like I was shooting in the Republic of California. Show and tell when you land it,please and thank you. Be well.
Title: Re: Best 1911 under 1k
Post by: CrazyDave on March 13, 2019, 10:23:20 PM
While this might not be popular, Springfield when they had the previous owners made the best bang for the buck 1911.  Now the local gun shop is going to stop carrying Springfield.  A friend bought a 10 MM XD and 10mm 1911. I bought a compact 9mm 1911, all of them had problems that should have be caught in quality control. Their Customer service is ...err frustrated.  Springfield has no custom shop, they will no longer fit or do much of anything except fix your POS.  In todays situation, honestly Remington forgot how to make a shotgun, but I have fired 5 1911's from them....all sweet and malfunction free.