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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO - All Full-Size Pistols => Topic started by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on February 13, 2019, 04:47:35 PM

Title: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on February 13, 2019, 04:47:35 PM
(Despite there being an SP01 in the video below, I figured this question would apply to all decocker variants of the 75 series.)

https://youtu.be/uoGaMK9Mnng

At the 8 minute mark, the reviewer says that the extra components in the decocker affect the trigger pull. Do  decocker 75 series pistols have a stiffer  pull because of the extra parts and linkages in the decocker system? Looking at the exploded parts diagram of the 75, there are some extra parts added in for the decocker version as compared to the standard safety version 75 pistol.
Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on February 13, 2019, 07:42:16 PM
Nope.This is a matter of opinion more than fact. My BD guns have the same pull as my B model guns. This is more a matter of shooter perception than anything mechanically different.
Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Tok36 on February 13, 2019, 08:37:25 PM
Nope.This is a matter of opinion more than fact. My BD guns have the same pull as my B model guns. This is more a matter of shooter perception than anything mechanically different.

This^^.

This misinformation has been going around allot longer than i have been into CZs. There is more potential difference in two of the same factory model CZ than there is between a safety model and a decocker model.

In the past, when someone has suggested that safety models have superior triggers to decocker models i asked the following: What part of the mechanical design of a CZ decocker impacts the trigger negatively in contrast to a safety model?  I have yet to receive an answer from anyone....

This subject is one of many examples of people repeating what they hear online without subjectively exploring the question in detail.

Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Earl Keese on February 13, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
I think this opinion stems from the fact that safety model's are easier to tune. The final product will be comparable. Out the box, virtually all CZ triggers are a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on February 13, 2019, 10:41:50 PM
I think this opinion stems from the fact that safety model's are easier to tune. The final product will be comparable. Out the box, virtually all CZ triggers are a crapshoot.

That's probably the main reason. Sorry for the silly question, but the CZ platform is still a little new to me. So thank you all for your responses.

Side question- why is it that the safety CZ's are easier to work on than decockers?
Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Earl Keese on February 13, 2019, 10:45:50 PM
I think this opinion stems from the fact that safety model's are easier to tune. The final product will be comparable. Out the box, virtually all CZ triggers are a crapshoot.

That's probably the main reason. Sorry for the silly question, but the CZ platform is still a little new to me. So thank you all for your responses.

Side question- why is it that the safety CZ's are easier to work on than decockers?
Not a silly question at all. The safety model is easier because it has fewer parts and the sear cage can be removed intact, while the de-cocker requires a slave pin to remove. If you don't use the slave pin, reassembly is challenging. In short, the de-cocker guts are more fiddly to work on.

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Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on February 16, 2019, 06:19:00 PM
I think this opinion stems from the fact that safety model's are easier to tune. The final product will be comparable. Out the box, virtually all CZ triggers are a crapshoot.

That's probably the main reason. Sorry for the silly question, but the CZ platform is still a little new to me. So thank you all for your responses.

Side question- why is it that the safety CZ's are easier to work on than decockers?
Not a silly question at all. The safety model is easier because it has fewer parts and the sear cage can be removed intact, while the de-cocker requires a slave pin to remove. If you don't use the slave pin, reassembly is challenging. In short, the de-cocker guts are more fiddly to work on.

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And the slave pin has to hold things in place, right? That would make sense why the decocker version is more of a chore to work with then.
Title: Re: Trigger pull on decocker 75 series pistols
Post by: Earl Keese on February 16, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
I think this opinion stems from the fact that safety model's are easier to tune. The final product will be comparable. Out the box, virtually all CZ triggers are a crapshoot.

That's probably the main reason. Sorry for the silly question, but the CZ platform is still a little new to me. So thank you all for your responses.

Side question- why is it that the safety CZ's are easier to work on than decockers?
Not a silly question at all. The safety model is easier because it has fewer parts and the sear cage can be removed intact, while the de-cocker requires a slave pin to remove. If you don't use the slave pin, reassembly is challenging. In short, the de-cocker guts are more fiddly to work on.

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And the slave pin has to hold things in place, right? That would make sense why the decocker version is more of a chore to work with then.
Yes. You install the slave pin to remove the sear cage, then you can pull it out a little from each side to replace parts w/o complete disassembly. Or you can take it all the apart and let the learning begin.

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