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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: JD Miller on August 13, 2019, 05:08:09 PM

Title: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: JD Miller on August 13, 2019, 05:08:09 PM
I was pretty set on buying the P-01 , but reading that the non light rail PCR, slimmer muzzle area might make it easier to holster and un-holster and "making it even more concealable."

Is the P-01's light rail any kind of issue making the muzzle area bulkier or cumbersome holstering or carrying compared to the non rail, smoother contoured frame front of the 75D PCR?

Use would be more of a ease of carry gun while hiking type use, rather than a gun with a light mounted on it for night use. Though the ability to mount a light would be nice. (excuse to get another gun) ;D
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Double Tap on August 13, 2019, 05:22:50 PM
In the approximately 15 years I have mine I have never seen or heard of any re-holstering issues due to the rail
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: adrian on August 13, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
     Hiya JD Miller and thanks for your thread. I've seen some custom kydex holsters built to have the light on the rail, it looks like it could slow a concealed draw. I'd only had a laser on the rail and it was not compatible to holster draws, so not much help there. But having enough cz pistols ,with and without rails,can say my opinion, my experience has been that having the rail can either decrease muzzle flip,or the perceived muzzle flip,which can effect getting back on target. If your budget allows both,its best to have the choice after you have broken both in. Be well.

Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: JD Miller on August 13, 2019, 06:41:02 PM
I had just noticed in the compact picture section alot of people had the 75D PCR.... instead of a p-01 ....... so I was reading up on  CZs description/ details/ specs/ on the both styles..... Maybe its more of a "looks" preference

Now Im studying weather I want the omega trigger model or not.... Ive seen/read a couple of different opinions on it
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: viking499 on August 13, 2019, 06:43:33 PM
I had just noticed in the compact picture section alot of people had the 75D PCR.... instead of a p-01 ....... so I was reading up on  CZs description/ details/ specs/ on the both styles..... Maybe its more of a "looks" preference

Now Im studying weather I want the omni trigger model or not.... Ive seen/read a couple of different opinions on it

Omni trigger?
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: trainkeptarolling on August 13, 2019, 07:59:11 PM
I had just noticed in the compact picture section alot of people had the 75D PCR.... instead of a p-01 ....... so I was reading up on  CZs description/ details/ specs/ on the both styles..... Maybe its more of a "looks" preference

Now Im studying weather I want the omni trigger model or not.... Ive seen/read a couple of different opinions on it

I'm sure it's just as easy to holster, and add a light, and might even cause the muzzle to kick up less with the extra weight...but I own 7 handguns and my PCR is not only the easiest to shoot, it's also scary accurate.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Jigo23 on August 13, 2019, 08:00:30 PM
Since you don’t really plan to mount a light anyway, you sure can’t go wrong with the PCR, love mine as of course do many others. Highly recommend one of the upgrade kits (I have the carry kit in mine) from Cajun Gun Works.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: JD Miller on August 13, 2019, 09:29:26 PM
I meant Omega trigger not Omni.....
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: eastman on August 13, 2019, 10:07:27 PM
what is this "or" you speak of? Obviously you should get both.  8)




(yes I do get paid to say this)
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: timetofly on August 13, 2019, 10:23:47 PM
what is this "or" you speak of? Obviously you should get both.  8)




(yes I do get paid to say this)


I was waiting to see that! 

Since he brought up the Omega, now he needs to buy all three O0

Seriously, it's a reach out and grab.  I don't see how you would regret buying all three or just one. 
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: nettle on August 13, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
I have two PCR's and would never think that a P01 would be any harder to holster. The guns too similar. I have no desire to mount anything a pistol rail so PCR's were an easy choice for me. If "What If" concerns you on a weapon mounted anything the P01 would be the best choice.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Texas377 on August 14, 2019, 11:27:24 AM
Choose either one!  I had no interest in attaching anything to my concealed carry weapon, so I chose the PCR. 
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: puddintame on August 14, 2019, 11:06:42 PM
had both. p01 was my first cz. got me hooked. but the pcr is pick though. not by much
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: JD Miller on August 14, 2019, 11:48:02 PM
Thanks for all the replies

Gonna go check both at a gun shop tomorrow

So you can get hooked on these eh?  Cool ....

I do have one CZ , a nice 527 .223 Rifle Ive had for many years
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: nettle on August 17, 2019, 10:01:53 PM
...you won't be hooked until you shoot them.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: sfost24688 on August 25, 2019, 01:58:41 AM
You’ve had a firearm hobby prior to Formally meeting a CZ. Then it turns into a habit. I at one point owned 13 9mm pistols trying to find the best one for me. Once my brother turned me on to my first CZ the P01. I started selling off anything that wasn’t a CZ to have more money for other CZ models. I have both a P01 and a PCR I use my P01 with a light attached for my nightstand pistol and my PCR is my range princess. I conceal carry my P10S, I have yet to try and carry the P01 or the PCR, but if your carrying AIWB and your skinny like I am I will say a compact with a light is rather uncomfortable and bulky to conceal carry. I know there are some really nice AIWB holsters out there for both the PCR and the P-01. I just recently had a company called tactical measure make me a AIWB holster for my P01 with a Inforce APLC Glock light and when I put it on I look like I have a major bulge in the Belt buckle area, now that could be the rubber wedge on the back pushing out like that but I have yet to try another company to make a custom one. I’ll leave the link to the outfit that made my holster.

https://tacticalmeasure.com/
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: UnknownFive on September 05, 2019, 07:20:36 PM
P01.  i like having the rail
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Vegas CZ on September 06, 2019, 05:51:25 PM
I also went with the P-01. Liked having the rail.

Use it for the Mantis X training system.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: DJ45 on September 10, 2019, 12:01:26 PM
I bought my P-01 Convertible specifically for the omega trigger.  The pic rail was a bonus for me because I now carry my P-01 with a weapon light on it.  This is the way I'm starting to carry all my ccw's, as I've found an awesome holster maker (PJ Holsters) that makes great light bearing IWB kydex holsters.

But it might depend on whether you want to have the traditional trigger or the omega.  The P-01 is the only 75 compact you can get with the omega, so that might make your decision for you.  I personally like having a rail, then I have the option to light up or not.

(https://i.imgur.com/zR0Mq6e.jpg)

Yeah, my favorite color is orange.  :D
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: whynot on September 16, 2019, 09:42:58 PM
I love my pcr... has been my favorite carry for a while....I’m currently patiently (well pretending to be patient) waiting on a p01(non omega) from CGW setup for IDPA...
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: whynot on September 16, 2019, 09:43:50 PM
You can’t go wrong with either....
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on September 25, 2019, 05:21:21 PM
I love my pcr... has been my favorite carry for a while....I’m currently patiently (well pretending to be patient) waiting on a p01(non omega) from CGW setup for IDPA...

I'm looking for a concealed carry CZ.  What makes the PCR your favorite?
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: ah3 on September 25, 2019, 08:50:31 PM
I love my pcr... has been my favorite carry for a while....I’m currently patiently (well pretending to be patient) waiting on a p01(non omega) from CGW setup for IDPA...

I'm looking for a concealed carry CZ.  What makes the PCR your favorite?

In my case my first choice for a carry pistol is one without a rail if there's an option for that.  The front end of the PCR is quite a bit narrower than the P-01.  I notice that width when holstered and find the PCR a bit more comfortable.  Not that I'd give up a P-01 if someone gave one to me.  ;)
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Triax60 on September 25, 2019, 10:46:44 PM
The first CZ I shot was a P-06 rental, I shot it rather well for being my first CZ experience. I own a 75 Compact and a Shadow TAC II, both have a safety. Recently I got it in my head I want to buy a decocker and I want to be able to carry it. I went back and forth between the PCR and the P-01. I really liked the beaver tail on the P-01 and the balance when loaded with a full magazine. I did not like the loaded chamber indicator on the PCR. I could not find any instance of someone removing it and making a blank to fill it in. I found one post from long ago where someone had the LCI come loose.

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=68302.0 (https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=68302.0)

To me that's just another unnecessary point of failure. I was thinking about buying an SDP but then came across a used Protek II at a decent price. So now I own a P-01.

(https://i.imgur.com/cXNGxqA.jpg)
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: YoungGun on October 16, 2019, 01:56:49 AM
I had multiple P-01s and PCRs in the past (including the all steel 99041 and the omega grey with the threaded barrel) but sold them all and was just looking for the standard P-01 Omega (found one yesterday in a trade for a gen4 G19).  Since I do not carry the CZ, I can’t comment on the holstering/reholstering characteristic between the rail/non-rail version. However, If you can only have one, I highly recommend the standard Omega P-01 since it will allow you the option of safety/decocker with/without light/laser.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on October 16, 2019, 08:24:55 PM
I went through the same struggle, back and forth...P-01 or PCR???    I finally decided on the PCR because I don’t intend to mount a light.  Super happy with my choice.  The PCR has been just as good as advertised!  Ergonomic, accurate, not too small, and the muzzle flip/recoil is very controllable.  On its way to becoming my favorite pistol!
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on October 18, 2019, 01:13:06 PM
I now have 600 rounds through my new PCR and it has run flawlessly.  Zero malfunctions using Speer 124gr. Lawman FMJ, 147gr Winchester Ranger SXT and 147gr Federal HST.  My new LOK Full Checkered grips help me get an solid grip.  The muzzle flip is very controllable and the sight returns right back to POA.  The grip is super ergonomic.  Everyone who holds it says the same thing, that’s it’s the best feeling pistol they’ve ever handled.  I’ve quickly become a huge fan.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Tanners Owner on October 18, 2019, 09:22:02 PM
I now have 600 rounds through my new PCR and it has run flawlessly.  Zero malfunctions using Speer 124gr. Lawman FMJ, 147gr Winchester Ranger SXT and 147gr Federal HST.  My new LOK Full Checkered grips help me get an solid grip.  The muzzle flip is very controllable and the sight returns right back to POA.  The grip is super ergonomic.  Everyone who holds it says the same thing, that’s it’s the best feeling pistol they’ve ever handled.  I’ve quickly become a huge fan.

Congrats, I have a PCR too as well as a P01 Omega. Both are my favorite CZs.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: deadguy on October 19, 2019, 04:02:48 AM
I had multiple P-01s and PCRs in the past (including the all steel 99041 and the omega grey with the threaded barrel) but sold them all and was just looking for the standard P-01 Omega (found one yesterday in a trade for a gen4 G19).  Since I do not carry the CZ, I can’t comment on the holstering/reholstering characteristic between the rail/non-rail version. However, If you can only have one, I highly recommend the standard Omega P-01 since it will allow you the option of safety/decocker with/without light/laser.
How is the Omega trigger compared to P-01?  I'm  currently trying to decide on which model to pick up, and read a few reviews that the Omega trigger is not as good as the P-01. 

I have an SP-01 that I'd like to replace with either the P-01 or the Omega.  I'd prefer to have the Omega options such as manual safety and SA trigger.  The alloy frame is a plus as well, but not a deciding factor. 

I've considered the PCR or 75D Compact, but want the rail since this will be used for HD with light mounted. 
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on October 19, 2019, 12:28:23 PM
I now have 600 rounds through my new PCR and it has run flawlessly.  Zero malfunctions using Speer 124gr. Lawman FMJ, 147gr Winchester Ranger SXT and 147gr Federal HST.  My new LOK Full Checkered grips help me get an solid grip.  The muzzle flip is very controllable and the sight returns right back to POA.  The grip is super ergonomic.  Everyone who holds it says the same thing, that’s it’s the best feeling pistol they’ve ever handled.  I’ve quickly become a huge fan.

Congrats, I have a PCR too as well as a P01 Omega. Both are my favorite CZs.

Thanks!
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on October 19, 2019, 12:43:45 PM
I had multiple P-01s and PCRs in the past (including the all steel 99041 and the omega grey with the threaded barrel) but sold them all and was just looking for the standard P-01 Omega (found one yesterday in a trade for a gen4 G19).  Since I do not carry the CZ, I can’t comment on the holstering/reholstering characteristic between the rail/non-rail version. However, If you can only have one, I highly recommend the standard Omega P-01 since it will allow you the option of safety/decocker with/without light/laser.
How is the Omega trigger compared to P-01?  I'm  currently trying to decide on which model to pick up, and read a few reviews that the Omega trigger is not as good as the P-01. 

I have an SP-01 that I'd like to replace with either the P-01 or the Omega.  I'd prefer to have the Omega options such as manual safety and SA trigger.  The alloy frame is a plus as well, but not a deciding factor. 

I've considered the PCR or 75D Compact, but want the rail since this will be used for HD with light mounted.

That would be a tough one for me.  The Omega system is more simple, easier to disassemble and assemble, and is more robust.  But I'm a decocker guy and I like the way the decocker on the regular system works better.

Maybe call Cajun Gun Works and pick David's brain?  He's a wealth of CZ knowledge.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: deadguy on October 19, 2019, 03:26:12 PM
I had multiple P-01s and PCRs in the past (including the all steel 99041 and the omega grey with the threaded barrel) but sold them all and was just looking for the standard P-01 Omega (found one yesterday in a trade for a gen4 G19).  Since I do not carry the CZ, I can’t comment on the holstering/reholstering characteristic between the rail/non-rail version. However, If you can only have one, I highly recommend the standard Omega P-01 since it will allow you the option of safety/decocker with/without light/laser.
How is the Omega trigger compared to P-01?  I'm  currently trying to decide on which model to pick up, and read a few reviews that the Omega trigger is not as good as the P-01. 

I have an SP-01 that I'd like to replace with either the P-01 or the Omega.  I'd prefer to have the Omega options such as manual safety and SA trigger.  The alloy frame is a plus as well, but not a deciding factor. 

I've considered the PCR or 75D Compact, but want the rail since this will be used for HD with light mounted.

That would be a tough one for me.  The Omega system is more simple, easier to disassemble and assemble, and is more robust.  But I'm a decocker guy and I like the way the decocker on the regular system works better.

Maybe call Cajun Gun Works and pick David's brain?  He's a wealth of CZ knowledge.
Ugh.  I don't like calling the shops to kick the tires,  because I feel like I'm wasting their precious time (even though I'll end up with one or the other soon).  However, if they are open and willing to talk about it, I may have to call. 

My last decocker experience was with a Bersa 45 C about a decade ago.  Hardly comparable to a CZ I am sure.
Title: Re: To Buy P-01 or CZ 75D PCR
Post by: Mifune326 on October 19, 2019, 11:05:45 PM
I had multiple P-01s and PCRs in the past (including the all steel 99041 and the omega grey with the threaded barrel) but sold them all and was just looking for the standard P-01 Omega (found one yesterday in a trade for a gen4 G19).  Since I do not carry the CZ, I can’t comment on the holstering/reholstering characteristic between the rail/non-rail version. However, If you can only have one, I highly recommend the standard Omega P-01 since it will allow you the option of safety/decocker with/without light/laser.
How is the Omega trigger compared to P-01?  I'm  currently trying to decide on which model to pick up, and read a few reviews that the Omega trigger is not as good as the P-01. 

I have an SP-01 that I'd like to replace with either the P-01 or the Omega.  I'd prefer to have the Omega options such as manual safety and SA trigger.  The alloy frame is a plus as well, but not a deciding factor. 

I've considered the PCR or 75D Compact, but want the rail since this will be used for HD with light mounted.

That would be a tough one for me.  The Omega system is more simple, easier to disassemble and assemble, and is more robust.  But I'm a decocker guy and I like the way the decocker on the regular system works better.

Maybe call Cajun Gun Works and pick David's brain?  He's a wealth of CZ knowledge.
Ugh.  I don't like calling the shops to kick the tires,  because I feel like I'm wasting their precious time (even though I'll end up with one or the other soon).  However, if they are open and willing to talk about it, I may have to call. 

My last decocker experience was with a Bersa 45 C about a decade ago.  Hardly comparable to a CZ I am sure.

I totally understand.  David and everyone at Cajun have always been patient and gracious with my questions.  They’re all extremely knowledgeable when it comes to the CZ pistols.  They know the benefits and shortcomings of both the Omega and regular systems better than anyone.  That’s why they get all my business when it comes time to buy parts or get my pistols worked on!  They’re the best!