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Title: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: Hobbiest on April 04, 2020, 02:05:28 PM
Basically installed the pro package on the sp01 minus the hammer and sear as I was told that was mostly lowers the single action and Im fine with where it is. So far the trigger reach reduction was a plus. hated the stock trigger and the reach. The reduced reset is better. My single action is close to 4# which is fine for me at moment. The single action reset is very distinct audibly and feel wise. Not sure if that changes with a new hammer.

My disappointment is in the DA. Its better but still 9#. My stock beretta elite ltt is noticeable better trigger all the way around but mostly noticeably in the DA. Will the hammer make much difference? Should I get the 11.5# spring? Thanks for the help.

Im trying to use this in uspsa and HD
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: anonymouscuban on April 04, 2020, 07:12:26 PM
11.5# main spring is going to make the biggest difference in reducing the DA weight. Should bring it down to around 6 pounds.

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Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: Hobbiest on April 04, 2020, 07:38:37 PM
Thanks. Will give CGW a call on monday. Id be happy anywhere around 7 #. I thought 9# was little much. I forgot I did drop a 10.00 lighter spring in the ltt but man is it smooth even before. Got to say thats my biggest disappointment in the sp01 so far is how much work you have to do to get a decent trigger. However slow shooting it is my most accurate gun in SA so in the long run I think it will be worth it.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: em44052 on May 05, 2020, 10:00:52 AM
@hobbiest, the hammer and sear along with a lighter trigger will make a world of difference. I have the Beretta 92 LTT and know what you are saying about the smooth DA, but with the full Pro Package from CGW and proper polishing, your CZ will blow it out of the water. Not sure if you already did this, but with the lighter hammer spring, you will need the extended firing pin also.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: ericsl2 on May 11, 2020, 11:44:56 PM
I mailed my cz in to cgw to have the pro package installed..after shooting other czs with diy installs, mine feels much nicer.  I'm pretty sure cgw did more than just install parts so even with the long wait it might be worth just sending it in.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: em44052 on May 13, 2020, 08:19:04 AM
I mailed my cz in to cgw to have the pro package installed..after shooting other czs with diy installs, mine feels much nicer.  I'm pretty sure cgw did more than just install parts so even with the long wait it might be worth just sending it in.

ERICSL2, you are correct, they also polish the parts and internals to get the results you got. They are definitely a top notch company.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: Gagepapa on May 13, 2020, 11:04:34 AM
Unbelievable the difference in my CGW gun vs factory
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: Arko on May 18, 2020, 08:22:06 AM
But there are many fine tutorials here, from the people who do the polishing there, that are available to everyone and with a small expenditure for tools and supplies you too van achieve a very high level of functionality in your CZ, if you're the do it yourself type who craves self satisfaction. I've been shooting for over 42 years and as far as seriously improving the functionality of a semiautomatic handgun I've never seen a bigger improvement, done by me, than I have in my P01 with the help of CGW parts and the information available here. I ran over 700 124gr reloads through mine a few weekends ago and had zero issues. I cajunized that pistol before ever firing it stock.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: em44052 on May 18, 2020, 09:54:33 AM
But there are many fine tutorials here, from the people who do the polishing there, that are available to everyone and with a small expenditure for tools and supplies you too van achieve a very high level of functionality in your CZ, if you're the do it yourself type who craves self satisfaction. I've been shooting for over 42 years and as far as seriously improving the functionality of a semiautomatic handgun I've never seen a bigger improvement, done by me, than I have in my P01 with the help of CGW parts and the information available here. I ran over 700 124gr reloads through mine a few weekends ago and had zero issues. I cajunized that pistol before ever firing it stock.

Arko, I agree 100%. The satisfaction of doing it yourself is hard to beat. There is some frustration that can go along with it, but I like the learning process, and  love the results. ;D
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: dwhite on May 18, 2020, 04:23:46 PM
I too just ordered my parts today and I'm looking forward to my first Cajunization!!!!

The sear cage scares me a little; but as others have mentioned there appears to be many excellent tutorials available.

Thanks all!
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: mkd on May 19, 2020, 05:57:27 PM
dwhite! did my first CGW mod,s 8 yrs ago on my P-01 and the decocker cage was a bear! Do the kit in segments! trigger group, hammer, springs. polishing etc. when you had enough ,take a break and when your mind is up to it again be it hours or days later get back after it. label all your old parts as original and put them in the little bags that has the corresponding CGW parts . I just got a pro pkg for an sp-01 manual safety and i will be doing the mods after the 22nd when i pick the gun up! i have a 110 dremel with felt wheels, and i also chuck q tips in the dremel and use metal polish with them. I have 1000,2000,3,000 wet or dry sandpaper and also have 3,000 and 5,000 grit polishing cloth foam backed that i will be using . looking foreward to a project that keeps me busy !lot's of good inf0 here in the gunsmithing and CGW sections as well as utube videos. good luck with your project!
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: dwhite on May 19, 2020, 06:55:58 PM
Thanks mkd. Those are some excellent suggestions. In my mind, I'm thinking about a week to complete the entire project. But it will take what it takes.

No need to rush it; EXCEPT that it means I won't be EDCing my P01 for a while. Also, after the mods, the P01 will also have to proof reliable at the range before I carry it.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: mkd on May 20, 2020, 05:54:32 AM
dwhite! my p-01 has a stock firing pin with light trigger return spring, 13 lb hammer spring, stock guide rod spring, and a three spring light firing spring kit. polished the feed ramp and internals!  very reliable ! i have read that lighter than 13 lb hammer spring and you want to add an extended firing pin.  primers cups are made from different material, some are softer than others. the harder ones need more force to ignite reliably. seating depth of primers can make a difference as well!
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: dwhite on May 20, 2020, 01:12:29 PM
Thanks again mkd. My P01 already has the CGW Ultra-Lite Kit installed with the extended FP, FP Spring, retaining pin and I'm using the blue 13# hammer spring. It's completely reliable.

I'm getting ready to install the remaining components of the Pro Package to get the full Cajunized effect. The parts are scheduled to arrive Friday. So guess what I'll be doing over the Memorial Day weekend!!!
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: mkd on May 23, 2020, 12:14:36 PM
all done but polishing the feed ramp! will do Monday when i get the dremel back out
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: mkd on May 24, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
q tips, the ones with the white paper sticks , are reall great for polishing the slide and even the slide channel, along with all the small surfaces . you can use the end or the side of the qtip with the cotton end cut off and wipe a bit of polish on it and it gets in places nothing else does. finished up the last of the slide polishing today and everything went well except the over travel screw was a bit too far in.when i picked the gun up and was thumbing the hammer to the drop position the hammer was just catching the sear . the clearance can be seen in front of the hammer pivot pin as it is lowered. all in all the safety version of the decocker models is easier to do the pro pkg on than the decocker models without the safety.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: dwhite on May 25, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
I finished installing the Pro Kit yesterday. With polishing included, it took me about 2 days to complete it. Trigger weights as follows:

When brand new: 4# 14oz SA, 10# 3oz DA
After installing UltraLite kit: 4# 8oz SA, 8# 7oz DA
After installing full Pro Kit: 3# 3oz SA, 7# 10oz DA

I measured the DA weight from the half-cock position as that would be the normal carry condition. The SA is superb! Very crisp with the tiniest amount of overtravel. I wouldn't want it any lighter. The DA is much smoother than before. All the grittiness is gone but the weight is still a little heavier than I would have preferred. The Reach Reduction was a really nice bonus. The original trigger was reachable; but on the long end for my hand size. Now it's a perfect fit.

As promised, the sear cage assembly was "challenging" but doable. I got to do it twice since I broke the miniscule lifter spring the first time installing the cage into the frame. Good thing someone recommended I buy spares!

I will try to get it to the range later this week although I expect no problems. Once that's done, I'll put the little P01 back to duty as my primary EDC.

At a later date I might try the 11.5# hammer spring to see if that helps the DA weight. I've heard though that it' not recommended for a carry piece due to the possibilities of light primer strikes.

Thanks everyone for the great advice and encouragement.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: mkd on May 25, 2020, 06:48:33 PM
dwhite. it took me two days as well! i had to readjust the overtravel screw back out a bit. when i would thumb the hammer down to the firing pin i was having the hammer spurs tick the edge of the sear. i moved the bottom screw bacl out a 1/4 turn and it cleared but i gave it an additional 3/4 turn for added reliability. the sp-01 trigger does not break as crisp as my p-01 trigger does. the sp-01 has a bit of creep which puts the overtravel screw closer to the frame. glad it went well for you! the pins i had to remove during disassembly came out with a small hammer and pretty easy. the little keeper for the right side safety gave me issues staying in place putting that side safety into the frame. rest was pretty easy. just time consuming. most of the polishing was with dremel and felt rotating disks, some 2000,3000, and 5000 grit pads on the flat surfaces.anxious to get my scales so i know the end result. my p-01 was a bit heavier than your start readings in both single and double action.
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: dudester on June 27, 2021, 07:05:59 PM
You guys have me wanting to try this. Marking for future reference. Near future most likely 😉
Title: Re: cgw pro package questions.
Post by: Vinnie45acp on October 05, 2021, 02:43:29 PM
I have had three guns done by CGW, all three were pro-packages, great work on all three.  Yes, each gun they get is going to come out a tad different due to the fact they are all hand done and no gun is exactly the same, they all will have slight tolerances differences that will effect their.  All three of mine came out awesome but yes, my 97 is probably the smoothest and shoots the nicest, but even David said it was the nicest 97BD he had ever did, that it just seem to come out more perfect that others he had done, and he couldn't put his finger on why.  It is also a heavier gun so it will shoot with lighter recoil due to that compared to the two 9mm's I had done.

Just remember that when comparing your guns with packages they will all not come out the same, yes they should be close in most regards in regards to platform and ammo being used, but none will be exactly the same, and all will require a break in as well and will smooth out even more after more rounds are run through each.