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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ82 & CZ83 CLUB => Topic started by: larryflew on August 18, 2020, 04:10:38 PM

Title: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: larryflew on August 18, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
Anyone tell me the actual difference?  Guessing lips, follower etc. 
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: Marty8613 on August 18, 2020, 05:16:06 PM
I think it’s the same magazine for both. 


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Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: eastman on August 18, 2020, 08:51:16 PM
the feed lip spacing is different

the front groove/depression is much longer on the 7.65 Browning/.32 Auto mags

7.65 mags also have a long groove pressed in near the back of the mag to deal with 7.65 being a semi-rimmed case and not a rimless like 9mm Browning Short or 9x18 Mak.


Magazines are interchangeable between the 9mm Mak vz82 and the 9mm Browning Short (.380) CZ 83.
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: larryflew on August 19, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
Thanks.  I knew the 380 and mak where the same. Was hoping slight differences as i just bought an 83 in 32 and have an 83 with several mags in 380.
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: eastman on August 20, 2020, 08:57:56 PM
the semi-rimmed design on the early Browning designs (6.35mm, 7.65mm and .38 Super) makes magazines a little more complicated. Good thing that part of the design was abandoned by the time he made pistols for .45 Auto and .380
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: larryflew on August 25, 2020, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: eastman on August 20, 2020, 08:57:56 PM
the semi-rimmed design on the early Browning designs (6.35mm, 7.65mm and .38 Super) makes magazines a little more complicated. Good thing that part of the design was abandoned by the time he made pistols for .45 Auto and .380

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Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: eastman on August 25, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: larryflew on August 25, 2020, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: eastman on August 20, 2020, 08:57:56 PM
the semi-rimmed design on the early Browning designs (6.35mm, 7.65mm and .38 Super) makes magazines a little more complicated. Good thing that part of the design was abandoned by the time he made pistols for .45 Auto and .380

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Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: tulio on September 28, 2021, 04:09:15 PM
Hello there,
having a massive issue with this... I bought a surplus CZ 83 9mm browning (.380ACP). I went to the range to find out that the magazine does not take the .380 ACP bullets but fits perfectly in the gun. So I could not use it. I am trying to get the vendor understand the situation.
Could it be that my CZ 83 was delivered with a 9mm Makarov charger? or a .32 ACP charger?

Here below a photo of the charger that came with the CZ 83 next to the .380 ACP charger of my Beretta 84.
(https://i.imgur.com/HOuyBvU.jpg)

Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: ILpaul on September 29, 2021, 09:18:13 AM
This may help, or confuse you more. Mine has the squiggly (not flat) follower.
My CZ83 7.65 Browning (.32ACP) is ?eská zbrojovka Uherský Brod manufacture.
I had issues trying to get a magazine loader (for double stack), so I digital caliper measured mine.
CZ-83 .32ACP Magazine Dimensions
Width – 0.786” (19.96mm)
Length – 1.092” (27.74mm)
Between Cartridge Grip “Ears” – 0.296” (7.52mm)

(https://i.imgur.com/WgZhahw.jpg)
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: eastman on September 29, 2021, 09:40:21 PM
can you post a picture of the side of the magazine? the magazines look very different side by side.

The .380 ACP (9x17mm) and 9mm Makarov (9x18mm) magazines are interchangeable.
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: ILpaul on October 01, 2021, 10:09:10 PM
Sorry for the response delay.
The only photos I had of my magazines were to resolve a vendor issue.
They were not with my CZ-83 photos (tons of 'em).
Then I have to figure out how to resize them to post - reading instructions every time.
On Rimfire Central, I just drop them in, and they're resized automatically.
A nice feature for an old guy.
I hope these are helpful.


(https://i.imgur.com/ZwCMkpM.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/ZwCMkpM.jpg)
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: eastman on October 02, 2021, 09:19:40 PM
From the shape of the ribs on the side of the magazine, that is definitely a 7.65 Browning (.32) mag.
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: ILpaul on October 02, 2021, 10:47:58 PM
I guess I just made it with the pics.
Never though a magazine true side view was important.
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: ILpaul on October 03, 2021, 12:40:46 PM
OK, I can see the difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/EwQu4sa.jpg)
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: tulio on October 18, 2021, 01:54:09 PM
.380 ACP vs .32 ACP
The latter was delivered to me by mistake.
Finally got the .380 ACP today.

(https://i.imgur.com/0IAGExj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Wejhn9z.jpg)
Title: Re: difference between the cz83 380 mag and the 32 mag
Post by: CZMANINTX on June 20, 2022, 03:13:07 PM
Wanna sell your .32 ACP magazine?