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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: Jdstg58 on February 06, 2021, 12:31:39 PM

Title: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 06, 2021, 12:31:39 PM
Hi All
New to Forum with first post....... sorry for all the questions in advance........

My father has a CZ P01 that fits my hands better then any other gun. The ergonomics of it are perfect for me. After a couple thousand rounds I decided I needed one for myself. I live in a 10+1 magazine restricted state. I typically buy larger caliber guns that meet the 10+1 restrictions.

The CZ P06 seems the answer for me, but they are discontinued. I don’t have a preference on Safety or Decocker so that also brings me to the CZ 75b Compact in .40. Also discontinued. Both seem hard to find. When I do see them, they seem overpriced at $900 range.are they more expensive because they are discontinued or is it just the current crazy market. Is there any reason to stay away from a CZ in 40?

I do really like the CZ P01, I just hesitate buying a gun with reduced capacity mags as they sometimes are not as reliable as the original full capacity mags. Would Omega or the older version be preferable?

If I’m considering the P01, then why not the CZ 75b in 9mm.

I know there are some clones of the CZ 75 Compact out there, but know nothing about them.

I’m not in a rush and can take my time looking. I have plenty of other guns for carry and the range- Sigs, Berettas, Glocks, Smiths, etc. I reload so ammo availability and cost is not a problem.

Which would you recommend and why? Anything to avoid?

Thanks for your opinions and suggestions.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Fuzzy Sights on February 06, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
P06 if you can find one.  Currently in process of making one out of a P01 frame and a slide from a 40 compact.  Have yet to fire it, hope to fix that this weekend.

JW
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: BStill on February 06, 2021, 12:43:53 PM
Rami?  feels very similar in the hand as my P-01.  10 round magazine by design.

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Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 06, 2021, 12:49:51 PM
I’ve held the Remi, it just didn’t have the same feel as the P01 size. It may have been too small.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: jurek on February 06, 2021, 01:08:12 PM
If you really like P-01... just stay with CZ75 family.  I've kept few different 75s in my hands... and still loved P-01 in aluminium frame.
If you are thinking about cal 40 - P-06 seems to be the best option. But as you have mentioned, you need to be prepared for $900.

I was going to suggest less expensive pistol - M&P M2.0 COMPACT.. but with 10 rd restriction you can have 9MM or 45AUTO options only...

My vote - P-6  ;)
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 06, 2021, 03:21:29 PM
P06 if you can find one.  Currently in process of making one out of a P01 frame and a slide from a 40 compact.  Have yet to fire it, hope to fix that this weekend.

JW

I haven’t seen any 40 slides for sale. That sounds like a great set up to have both slides for it giving you multiple calibers. I do that with my Sigs and Glocks. They are all 40/357 Sig with extra slide or conversion barrel in 9mm.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 06, 2021, 03:22:56 PM
With 40 are the steel frames more durable then the alloy?

With the $900 price, is that this last year with panic buyers or was it in that range before the panic.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Fuzzy Sights on February 06, 2021, 03:53:35 PM
Jtstg58,

Also have done the same with SIGs.  My favorite carry was a SIG 239 in 357SIG.  Sadly discontinued. ATF and Air Marshal service issued them and BARSTO made the 9mm barrel.

JW
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Tanners Owner on February 06, 2021, 10:14:54 PM
My personal preferences is for a 9mm over 40, but fully acknowledge it’s my preferences and yours may differ. As such I voted for a P01- it’s available now & has same ergos ans the P06.

I’m also a decocker fan
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Phlyers13 on February 07, 2021, 06:09:17 AM
If you like the P01 get the P01 or PCR. The Rami is much smaller and the 75 is larger. The compacts have the same size frame, but are made of steel instead of alloy so they will be heavier, which is great for shooting but not so much of it’s a carry gun. I would worry about mag reliability. it’s not an issue as long as you are using factory/mec Gars.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 07, 2021, 11:08:42 PM
Jtstg58,

Also have done the same with SIGs.  My favorite carry was a SIG 239 in 357SIG.  Sadly discontinued. ATF and Air Marshal service issued them and BARSTO made the 9mm barrel.

JW

About 11/2 years ago I picked up an unissued LEO trade in P239 in .357 Sig from AIM. It’s been my CC ever since.

Last year picked up an unissued LEO trade p229 in 357 from CDNN.

They have gotten me back into metal framed da/sa and away from poly striker guns.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Assnolax on February 08, 2021, 02:00:06 AM
I have a  01197  CZ 75 Compact .40 S&W and feel it can be a bit of a touchy beast.   I have heard others completely rework feed ramp geometry, mine took some heavy polishing before feed issues were resolved but I have never tried any hollowpoints through it.  Other than polishing, new sights, old style 85 combat trigger, cajun trigger pin and some lok palm swells it is stock and at least with fmj quite reliable. This is the steel framed safety model so I can't speak to the aluminum framed decocker side. 
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: JLla84 on February 09, 2021, 08:13:03 AM
A big thing to consider also..... RAIL, OR NO RAIL?
i just went through this and decided i did not need a rail for my purchase. something to think about!
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Fuzzy Sights on February 09, 2021, 06:38:04 PM
Assnolax,

Have a 40 75B Compact.  Love mine and have only done minor work on trigger, replaced the grips, and sights for my ageing eyes.  Now to fit a 357 Sig barrel.  Purchased a frame of a P01 and will work on making my own P06.  By the way the slide fits with no modification.

JW
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on February 10, 2021, 04:18:33 PM
Prices seem crazy. There was a P-06 on gunbroker. It went for $1225. That just seems crazy. I could buy a Shadow 2 for that.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: racroths on February 17, 2021, 09:32:19 PM
Jeez... there is/was a used p06 from a lgs for $450.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: MilSpec on February 19, 2021, 12:28:50 AM
I voted for the P-01. Here’s why...  My first CZ was a CZ-75 Omega, which I love. Then I bought a CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical; that thing makes me look like I know what I’m doing at the range. Then I bought a P-01 Omega, and guess what I carry now?  It shoots great, it fits my hand like it was made just for me, and it’s easy to carry.  Just my two cents, of course. Good luck with your search (it never ends by the way...) ;)
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on February 19, 2021, 08:47:22 AM
If you don't need a rail I vote PCR. Been carrying mine over 11 years now and just passed the 18k round mark. My favorite pistol of all time. The PCR is the same as the P-01 without the rail,same feel in the hand.
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: A. on February 20, 2021, 05:18:21 PM
If you don't need a rail I vote PCR. Been carrying mine over 11 years now and just passed the 18k round mark. My favorite pistol of all time. The PCR is the same as the P-01 without the rail,same feel in the hand.

Second that!
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: s004kcg on February 26, 2021, 12:05:46 PM
I have the P-01 and rami.  Definitely the P-01 is the better choice.  Also consider the P-10 C.   I know, not DA/SA but still a great option.  Or BOTH the P-01 and P-10 c.  Get the whole family of CZ!
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Jdstg58 on November 16, 2021, 09:27:36 PM
Well I waited and watched for aP-06 for months. I couldn’t find any at a reasonable price. All have been around $1100 to $1200 for a used one. I couldn’t justify those prices.

Admittedly all of the CZs I have bought before have been either military or police surplus. CZ 27, 52, 70, 82, 83. All had been inexpensive and high value for low price. All under $200 each

When I decided I was going to spend this much money on a new gun, I started to look around more. Since I was thinking of spending that much, I decided to get something special.

I wound up buying a Shadow 2 Orange. Absolutely love it.

Still didn’t scratch the P-01/06 itch. Found P-01 on Gunbroker for $550. A reasonable price, so I bought one of them to.

Still hoping to find a P-06 someday. I think CZ should bring them back even in a limited production run. They seem like they would sell out quickly at a higher price then the P-01
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: Tyerone on November 24, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
Gee, I feel obligated to respond being the only one that voted CZ75B Compact 40.  Then consider hard chrome or NP3+ treatment to make it 'bling' and/or even more resistant to corrosion & future wear.

Good like finding either it or the P06!
Title: Re: Help with next purchase
Post by: briang2ad on November 26, 2021, 11:34:34 AM
You chose well. Paying a premium for a 40 caliber gun doesn’t make any sense. It might make sense if you can find them cheaper, but the 40 caliber was a solution to a problem that never existed.  I know that is cliché, but it is very true.  The P01 is arguably one of the best gun CZ ever produced, I’ll be it it does come with some issues.  Are used to hate this model, because typically they can come with some pretty greedy and stagey triggers.  Then the dilemma is to detail strip and work on the trigger which can be a bear given the way the DeCocker is set up on these guns.  I have learned to deal with it so now I can appreciate the gun more and more. I also think the standard P01 is a better gun and the Omega system and this firearm.  And now, with a range of sights to include the Tru Glo pro sights , they make a great carry gun.  Enjoy.