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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ SHOTGUNS => Topic started by: CJB on May 24, 2021, 10:06:04 PM

Title: New Bobwhite 12g
Post by: CJB on May 24, 2021, 10:06:04 PM
Very happy with the new Bobwhite except maybe for the triggers.  They're just ok.

Wood/metal excellent.  Metal/metal excellent.  Lock up... excellent. Overall finish, excellent.

Complaints?  Laser checkering is pretty and precise, but not sharp.  Its no better than pressed checkering, but lots better lookin.

Gotta get out to shoot it some....
Title: Re: New Bobwhite 12g
Post by: Plipscomb on May 25, 2021, 05:28:20 PM
I've been looking at getting one too. I've read that they're not really good for clay usage. I want this side by side to be for clays and hunting. I've heard people say you only get 1500 rounds out of them, that they're a field gun not designed for heavy shooting. If that's they case how.would anyone practice with them. Is this a myth? That some barrels wear out. I've heard similar with Mossberg and now this. I know rifles have a lifespan but shotguns? I'm questioning the quality and longevity of the Bobwhite G2
Title: Re: New Bobwhite 12g
Post by: CJB on May 25, 2021, 09:27:43 PM
I'm not sure what to say.  I think some of it has to do with a bit of snob appeal.  That is to say a person who spends $2,000 more dollars on a shotgun most certainly believe that their shotgun is better than a $600 shotgun.  And so they must a sale any point they can to justify the existence of their own expensive shooter.
I can tell you that I went through two Ruger red labels.  One had a split stock and a broken firing pin after much use.  Google made it right.  I sold it and bought one with a longer barrel set and it did okay.  I think I had about four thousand rounds in the first one and two thousand in the second one.  Both of them loosened considerably with use, but were still fairly tight and very safe.
A good bolt rifle wears it's barrel out on the inside.  They can be re-barreled.  A lousy rifle has the action stretch, and other issues, that's what was barrel wear.  In my experience shotgun barrels last for a long time.  Choke tubes may wear.  On break open shotguns it's the locking pieces that wear out, including the hinge pieces.  It remains to be seen if the g2 is made of metal that is just a little bit harder than dried chewing gum.  But I tend to think that this gun will go well over 1,500 rounds.   Look at it this way at the price they go for compared to others, buy two, sock one away, and you'll still be ahead of the game.  And if the new gun lasts a long time, you can eventually sell the one you stored away for a nice profit!

I'm a pretty old guy and have played with guns my whole life since I've been about 10 years old.  My experience says the g2 bobwhite is a decent gun.
Title: Re: New Bobwhite 12g
Post by: alp3367 on May 27, 2021, 12:58:09 PM
I've been looking at getting one too. I've read that they're not really good for clay usage. I want this side by side to be for clays and hunting. I've heard people say you only get 1500 rounds out of them, that they're a field gun not designed for heavy shooting. If that's they case how.would anyone practice with them. Is this a myth? That some barrels wear out. I've heard similar with Mossberg and now this. I know rifles have a lifespan but shotguns? I'm questioning the quality and longevity of the Bobwhite G2

 That's kind of ridiculous. On the one hand I would not prefer one for clays, but that's simply because I prefer a single trigger as opposed to the double trigger on the Bob White.

 To an extant the pricier guns will last longer due to certain features on some of them.  For instance, bushings in the firing pin channels. Over time a firing pins will start wearing the channel, bushings makes it easy to replace just those. Little stuff like that.

 Having said that you need to think about how much you are going to realistically shoot. I know somebody with a CZ Redhead. Know how long he was able to shoot it before the firing pin channel had too much wear? 85,000+ rounds. If you're going to be shooting that much it may be beneficial to invest with some of those very high round count features. For CZ that's the All American. Everything wears out if used heavily/hard enough.

 So while a Bob White would not be my preferred clays gun, that's only due to it's configuration, nothing to do with reliability.