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Title: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 28, 2017, 08:28:41 AM
A couple of posters have stated that they did not receive a test target with their Shadow2.
People receiving them from CZC (like myself) seem to be receiving a test target with actual bullet holes (not electronic).
People getting them from some places other than CZC are reporting no test target received at all (although one poster from Canada who didn't buy from CZC received an electronic test target).
I'm just trying to figure out why and whether there is some reason for not getting one.

If you have received a Shadow2, please respond if you got a test target and if you did, was it electronic or physical and where you got it - CZC or elsewhere (group size or dispersion would be nice to know as well, if you don't mind sharing). Thanks for helping me try to figure out this mystery!
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: spiritfox on March 28, 2017, 10:04:47 AM
Interesting--picked up my Shadow 2 last week.  Purchased from CZC and it contained an actual target--with bullet holes. 
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Roikyou on March 28, 2017, 11:07:29 AM
I think thats the key we've learned so far, if you got it from czcustom, they actually test fire and adjust sights in some cases. I bought from czc and got the physical test fire target.


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Heisenberg on March 28, 2017, 11:12:10 AM
No test target here and mine came from CZ USA.  I've been making my own so I don't need one  :)!
I know CZC usually includes a test target with their custom guns, not sure if they did that with their inspection of the S2s.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: LAFOshooter on March 28, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
Mine came from the cz importer here in Australia.  No test target. So I created my own(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170328/4dd6ec1be0656c5f0da2118a691291b9.jpg)

25 metre range :)


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Grizzlie on March 28, 2017, 05:41:38 PM
Friends here (East europe) got electronic test target print out. Pistol went thru the official distributor from the Czech factory

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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 29, 2017, 04:01:25 PM
So far, it looks like East Europe fellas and gals are getting the standard electronic test target with their S2. Chilidip in Canada got two S2s and both had standard electronic targets with them. The gentleman from Australia did not receive any target with his. Peolple buying from suppliers here in the states other than CZC are not getting targets and anyone buying from CZC is getting a physical test target with bullet holes (non-electronic). I don't suppose it is any big deal or anything but, I can't figure out why this is such a random thing from CZ. Did they get in such a rush to get them to Australia and the U.S. that they bypassed test firing them or what?
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: HiddenArmadillo on March 29, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
I bought mine from CZC and it came with both targets.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 29, 2017, 10:14:56 PM
I bought mine from CZC and it came with both targets.

Ha! You made me go dig through my box. Yes, I have both as well! I like the one from CZC better.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: TexanFX2 on March 30, 2017, 09:05:01 AM
Got mine from CZC. No target at all.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 30, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
Got mine from CZC. No target at all.

Wow, you are the first to report that CZ Custom did not include a test target with your Shadow2. I wonder if there are any others...
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: TexanFX2 on March 30, 2017, 09:57:56 AM
Well.. I should also add that I asked them to remove/install the new fully adjustable rear sight on mine.
That was late on a Thursday, and asked if they could ship ASAP. I received a tracking number that same night.

Most likely, there was no time for them to test shoot it. Unfortunately, I have not been able to go out and shoot my S2 to report if I need to adjust the sight. I hope to go out this weekend and be as impressed as you were RHart! :D
 
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Shadow2 on March 30, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
I'll let you know  ... better yet how about some photos of your test targets ... or do you think some guys may get pissed theirs isn't as good as others.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 30, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
I'll let you know  ... better yet how about some photos of your test targets ... or do you think some guys may get pissed theirs isn't as good as others.

I'm not so good at posting pictures. My CZ electronic target showed a 79.3 dispersion (not that good), but the one from CZC showed a little over one-inch. I have already had better groups than the CZ electronic version, but not as good as the CZC version - yet. I'd like to get a good shooter with young eyes to shoot mine to see how good it can be.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: SlvrDragon50 on March 30, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
Got two test targets. Elecronic and CZC.

(http://i.imgur.com/djWxhif.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fWcapru.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Heisenberg on March 30, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
Just out of curiosity, do any of the test targets show the distance the guns were sighted at?  My guess is 25 yds.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 30, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
Just out of curiosity, do any of the test targets show the distance the guns were sighted at?  My guess is 25 yds.

The CZ factory target says 25 meters, so over 25 yards.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 30, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Got two test targets. Elecronic and CZC.

Nice! That CZC test target looks way better than the factory one. Better than mine from CZC.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Shadow2 on March 30, 2017, 10:41:09 PM
what do CZ and CZC use? Off hand at 25 or Ransom?
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 31, 2017, 06:38:43 AM
what do CZ and CZC use? Off hand at 25 or Ransom?

I've never been to the factory to see for myself, but those who have been say it's just guys shooting off a bench - not ransom rest shooting. The test target you get can be affected by how bad a hangover the tester has...
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Shadow2 on March 31, 2017, 08:59:28 PM
well my test shooter may have had a hang over the group is 4 holes kind of touching ... not as good at the one in the other post.

what do CZ and CZC use? Off hand at 25 or Ransom?

I've never been to the factory to see for myself, but those who have been say it's just guys shooting off a bench - not ransom rest shooting. The test target you get can be affected by how bad a hangover the tester has...
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on April 01, 2017, 10:29:29 PM
well my test shooter may have had a hang over the group is 4 holes kind of touching ... not as good at the one in the other post.

what do CZ and CZC use? Off hand at 25 or Ransom?

I've never been to the factory to see for myself, but those who have been say it's just guys shooting off a bench - not ransom rest shooting. The test target you get can be affected by how bad a hangover the tester has...

I wonder if CZC uses a ransom rest to get such nice groups. CZC's target looked way better than the electronic target from the factory.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: 2tango2 on April 30, 2017, 04:48:43 PM
I just picked up my Urban Grey Shadow 2 from my LGS yesterday and it is the first CZ I have bought (11 or 12) that did not include any test target


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on April 30, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
I just picked up my Urban Grey Shadow 2 from my LGS yesterday and it is the first CZ I have bought (11 or 12) that did not include any test target

Yeah it's strange. Have you tried shooting any groups yet?


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: 2tango2 on April 30, 2017, 10:55:15 PM
1st few shots from 21 feet unsupported

I like this gun a lot

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/8b87110b3b7b0ba808541d23bd189200.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/5430431d7037b2d914b1e676c9738eff.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/98a6eea367d1bcc2fdafb824276d2511.jpg)


Ran 200 issue free rounds through it. The last 50 was 115 grn Independence and the brass seemed like it fell out of the slide rather than ejected

The Remington, Perfecta and S&B ran great and ejected normally 


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on April 30, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
what do CZ and CZC use? Off hand at 25 or Ransom?

I found out the following from Stuart:
"Shots fired 10 yards, shot off hand, no rest. factory 9mm 115g ammo.
fired to test function and check POA/POI"
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on April 30, 2017, 11:00:57 PM
1st few shots from 21 feet unsupported

I like this gun a lot

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/8b87110b3b7b0ba808541d23bd189200.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/5430431d7037b2d914b1e676c9738eff.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/98a6eea367d1bcc2fdafb824276d2511.jpg)


Ran 200 issue free rounds through it. The last 50 was 115 grn Independence and the brass seemed like it fell out of the slide rather than ejected

The Remington, Perfecta and S&B ran great and ejected normally 


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That seems weird. The last Independence ammo I shot seemed to be about as hot as S&B.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: 2tango2 on April 30, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
Maybe I got a bad box. The rounds did feels like they varied in report


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on April 30, 2017, 11:08:02 PM
Maybe I got a bad box. The rounds did feels like they varied in report


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I put an 11# spring in mine and the ejection still seems kind of weak. I will probably try a 10# next.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: andrew1220 on May 01, 2017, 09:40:05 AM
I got my blue grip nitride model from CGW and it came with an electronic target.

With a ~2.5# SA trigger and 1mm reset, it's pretty hard not to shoot a nice group ;D

Awesome gun.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: 2tango2 on May 01, 2017, 11:13:14 AM
I got my blue grip nitride model from CGW and it came with a test target.

With a ~2.5# SA trigger and 1mm reset, it's pretty hard not to shoot a nice group ;D

Awesome gun.


Sounds awesome!


Did you get the electronic target as well?


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: andrew1220 on May 01, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
I got my blue grip nitride model from CGW and it came with a test target.

With a ~2.5# SA trigger and 1mm reset, it's pretty hard not to shoot a nice group ;D

Awesome gun.


Sounds awesome!


Did you get the electronic target as well?


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I may have misread the OP. Mine came with the electronic target I meant. I edited my post.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: 2tango2 on May 01, 2017, 01:03:09 PM
I wonder what rhyme or reason they have in determining who gets a target or not.  Looking at this thread it seems all over the map whether you get one or not


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Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Thechef1 on May 01, 2017, 11:40:40 PM
Bought munch S2 in Las Vegas. No test target. I was wondering if I got burned or what.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on May 02, 2017, 07:33:27 AM
Bought munch S2 in Las Vegas. No test target. I was wondering if I got burned or what.

The chef "got burned" - LMAO! Good one.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on May 02, 2017, 07:35:29 AM
I wonder what rhyme or reason they have in determining who gets a target or not.  Looking at this thread it seems all over the map whether you get one or not


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Yeah, I can't figure it out. Maybe in the rush to get them to market they bypassed testing each one?
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: olfarhors on May 02, 2017, 11:45:52 AM
Mine came from local Gun shop Via CZ and there was no target(s) included, just got it last week.
First CZ that I have bought that didn't have a target included but honestly it doesn't matter a bit to me.
I am more interested in what MY test target will look like honestly.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on May 02, 2017, 12:27:53 PM
Mine came from local Gun shop Via CZ and there was no target(s) included, just got it last week.
First CZ that I have bought that didn't have a target included but honestly it doesn't matter a bit to me.
I am more interested in what MY test target will look like honestly.

That's the real test. I used to put a lot of stock in the factory targets, but I've changed my mind since I got my Shadow2. It shows a 79.3mm dispersion on the factory target, but I got under 3" groups the first time I shot it off a bench rest at 25 yards.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Heisenberg on May 02, 2017, 04:04:39 PM
I'm going to solve all your problems.  Mail me your guns and a box or 2 of good ammo and I'll provide you with all the test targets you'd like.  This is a limited time offer, so act now!
But wait, there's more!
Send in twice as much ammo and you'll receive double the test targets at absolutely no additional cost!
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Boris_LA on May 02, 2017, 05:49:19 PM
I'm going to solve all your problems.  Mail me your guns and a box or 2 of good ammo and I'll provide you with all the test targets you'd like.  This is a limited time offer, so act now!
But wait, there's more!
Send in twice as much ammo and you'll receive double the test targets at absolutely no additional cost!
Good offer!
Especially combined with real bullet holes and personal inc signature instead of electronic ones.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: olfarhors on May 04, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
its likely a good feeling for some if you have the test targets but I look at as  the factory or CZ-usa likely aren't as worried about 5 shot clover leafs as that the weapon actually functions correctly and accuracy is acceptable.
so much depends on the loose screw behind the trigger, the ammo choice that will be used etc than what a  factory test target shows.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on May 04, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
its likely a good feeling for some if you have the test targets but I look at as  the factory or CZ-usa likely aren't as worried about 5 shot clover leafs as that the weapon actually functions correctly and accuracy is acceptable.
so much depends on the loose screw behind the trigger, the ammo choice that will be used etc than what a  factory test target shows.

This is true. I think it's psychological to a certain extent - if you believe the gun is capable of high accuracy, you'll get better accuracy and vice versa.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: gcw16 on June 05, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
Just got my Shadow 2 Saturday. There was no test target in the box.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on June 06, 2017, 06:14:39 PM
Just got my Shadow 2 Saturday. There was no test target in the box.

Who did you get it through?
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Shadow2 on June 06, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
Mine came with an electronic shoved in with the other papers i missed it the first time. It also came with the CZC target
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: gcw16 on June 07, 2017, 10:46:25 AM
Just got my Shadow 2 Saturday. There was no test target in the box.

Who did you get it through?

I got it from Tombstone Tactical. It is the all black model, 91254. The price was fair, $1117 + free ship + $15 to local FFL for transfer.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: TruckinThumper on June 07, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
I got mine Monday....no test target
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: RaCzech on June 11, 2017, 09:40:23 AM
I bought mine from grab a gun and no test target.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Raining_Brass on June 30, 2017, 09:58:52 AM
Mine has the usual factory test target and the one from CZ Custom.

It shot a 2.1" group at the factory at 25 meters which I'm absolutely blown away by from a factory gun. That's Accu Shadow territory.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: sdlrodeo on July 21, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
I got my blue grip nitride model from CGW and it came with an electronic target.

With a ~2.5# SA trigger and 1mm reset, it's pretty hard not to shoot a nice group ;D

Awesome gun.

Where did you get your blue grip Nitride Model? If I may ask?
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: whitepointer on February 02, 2019, 02:33:14 PM
Bought Shadow 2 from Australian Importer "PBA Imports" and did not receive a target. Friend bought one and didn't receive one either.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Hawker800 on February 03, 2019, 02:01:25 AM
Nope, me neither.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: zhuk on February 03, 2019, 06:37:04 AM

its likely a good feeling for some if you have the test targets but I look at as  the factory or CZ-usa likely aren't as worried about 5 shot clover leafs as that the weapon actually functions correctly and accuracy is acceptable.
so much depends on the loose screw behind the trigger, the ammo choice that will be used etc than what a  factory test target shows.


Could not agree more. Unless all the guns are being machine activated from a standardised vise rest, there's no point comparing across guns/countries/regions sold etc. And yes they are being function tested and for acceptable CZ accuracy, not competition bullseye lol


This is true. I think it's psychological to a certain extent - if you believe the gun is capable of high accuracy, you'll get better accuracy and vice versa.

Having spent 7 years shooting an M&P which rattles in slide to frame fit lol and having my best mate get to master grade with one, I already know my Shadow will be more accurate. So much more depends on the shooter.


Bought Shadow 2 from Australian Importer "PBA Imports" and did not receive a target. Friend bought one and didn't receive one either.

Nope I don't know any aussies who got a target with their S2 either. I got one but that was via Magnum and was a SP01 not an S2.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: warbird1 on February 09, 2019, 09:40:08 PM
Bought at a gun show today. No test target.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: timetofly on February 10, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
I bought a S2 about two weeks ago, and no target.  S2 is a 2018 vintage.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: adrian on February 10, 2019, 12:03:23 PM
     Hiya, and thx to whomever began the thread. Guess I've noticed the same patterns of test targets depending on where it was purchased. But be sure to include behind the foam,top and bottom of your respective gun case in your search. I kinda miss the ol days when the case was included in the easy to read blue and white box,making it easier to pic out a particular models box out of the safe or closet when searching for its extras. Has anyone ever used the factory trigger lock they come with ?  Be well.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: zhuk on February 22, 2019, 07:34:37 AM
I've never thought manufacturer-supplied cable trigger locks were beefy enough to feel comfortable with if pulled up by the Plod (thanks to our onerous laws) Combination locks all the way.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Ridgeline17 on February 22, 2019, 05:17:36 PM
Bought a 75 SP-01 Shadow Target 2 18Feb19 with 2 targets.  Gun was used but I think never fired!!  From CZ factory ammo Sellier Bellot, 25m, Dispersion 78mm.  Co-ordinates of mean point: 5 right, 0mm. I calculated different.  DATED 13.08.09/10:25 4 shots just below center with one high to right.    Target from CZ-USA Custom Dated 01/04/10   4 shots ragged hole 1/4" low right and one shot 3/4" right.  I've not shot my gun yet but I like this one very much. Was targets stopped to save money. Check dates. 
 Joined this month
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on February 26, 2019, 11:42:50 AM
Bought a 75 SP-01 Shadow Target 2 18Feb19 with 2 targets.  Gun was used but I think never fired!!  From CZ factory ammo Sellier Bellot, 25m, Dispersion 78mm.  Co-ordinates of mean point: 5 right, 0mm. I calculated different.  DATED 13.08.09/10:25 4 shots just below center with one high to right.    Target from CZ-USA Custom Dated 01/04/10   4 shots ragged hole 1/4" low right and one shot 3/4" right.  I've not shot my gun yet but I like this one very much. Was targets stopped to save money. Check dates. 
 Joined this month

Ha, ha! The dates you gave through me for a loop until I realized you have a Shadow Target II - not a Shadow 2...
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Croal_Darksoul on February 27, 2019, 01:04:49 AM
Purchased mine today (2/26/19) from Palmetto State Armory and no test target with mine. Going to make a few of my own in the morning though 😎
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Old454 on March 22, 2019, 10:05:04 AM
No test target. Just picked it up last week
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: hansb57 on March 22, 2019, 12:24:50 PM
The Netherlands. Test target came with my S2 Optic Ready.

But the enclosed CD doesnt work on 3 lap tops and 1 PC.
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: rhart on March 25, 2019, 09:57:34 PM
The Netherlands. Test target came with my S2 Optic Ready.

But the enclosed CD doesnt work on 3 lap tops and 1 PC.

I didn't get an enclosed CD with mine...
Title: Re: New Shadow2 Owners - Did You Get A Test Target With Yours?
Post by: Slow Jerry on March 28, 2019, 06:16:30 PM
A couple of posters have stated that they did not receive a test target with their Shadow2.
People receiving them from CZC (like myself) seem to be receiving a test target with actual bullet holes (not electronic).
People getting them from some places other than CZC are reporting no test target received at all (although one poster from Canada who didn't buy from CZC received an electronic test target).
I'm just trying to figure out why and whether there is some reason for not getting one.

If you have received a Shadow2, please respond if you got a test target and if you did, was it electronic or physical and where you got it - CZC or elsewhere (group size or dispersion would be nice to know as well, if you don't mind sharing). Thanks for helping me try to figure out this mystery! I bought my Shadow 2 in January of this year and no test target.