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Title: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: M1A4ME on July 28, 2017, 05:00:35 PM
http://americangg.net/tb-unload-show-clear-hand/
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: Blackwatch on July 28, 2017, 05:43:34 PM
No - I was trained to pull the slide and leave the ejection port unimpeded. Sounds like it was a horrific injury!
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: SlvrDragon50 on July 28, 2017, 05:58:54 PM
I have never seen anyone unload like that. Seems kinda awkward.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: M1A4ME on July 28, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
I have the grip in my right hand, I roll the pistol over upside down, grab the slide with my left hand, palm up and pull the slide back.  The round falls in my hand not the dirt.

Never thought about the slide slipping out of my grip and catching the bullet just right between the lip of the chamber and the slide and setting it off.
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Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on July 28, 2017, 06:53:48 PM
Not sure if I totally believe the story. What if the guy was actually doing that trick where you yank the slide back and catch the ejected live round mid air? What if this time it got caught in the ejection port and detonated? Who knows. Like the writer said he doesn't have all the info himself.
Any way I generally unload the same way except I draw the slide back with the pistol pointed safely away and ejection port leaned to the right catching the round in my left hand as it falls out while locking the slide in place with my right thumb.Finger outside the trigger guard of course.
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Post by: aguila9 on July 28, 2017, 07:40:45 PM
I've had this happen a few times on my range and once to me. Besides some superficial burns there were no injuries requiring medical attention. We always train to let the round hit the deck, as Sig originally taught in the eighties when we transitioned from revolvers to semiauto.  Guess we have been lucky.

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Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: rhart on July 28, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
I've always just let it eject onto the ground.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: 1SOW on July 28, 2017, 08:34:19 PM
I was taught to never cover the ejection port,  including and especially when racking the slide for feed.  You,ll often see an overhand grip of the slide that covers the ejection port when racking.

For right handers:
After "....show clear"  I rotate the pistol left 90 degs and jack the slide between the weak hand thumb and index finger knuckle.  The cartridge flies up and slightly left.  It can be caught or let drop beside you.  The chamber is easily exposed to show clear for the RO..

Doing it the same way (safely) every time let's you know where the cartridge will fall every time.

The same procedure works smoothly  and fastnfor racking the slide.


Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: jameslovesjammie on July 29, 2017, 12:15:33 AM
Drop the mag, rack the slide, let the bullet land wherever it lands and visually check the chamber for clear.

^^This^^

I drop the mag, letting it hit the floor.  Then I slingshot the slide, letting the round hit the floor and show chamber clear to the RO.  I then bend my fat butt over and pick up the mag and round off the ground, OR whoever is brassing picks them up and brings them to me when I am checking targets.
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Post by: armoredman on July 29, 2017, 01:01:47 AM
Round can go wherever it wants - I'll pick it up later. If I want to make sure I keep it in good condition, (ejecting defense round to shoot range ammo), I'll gently eject over the pistol box. I have never seen this type of malfunction personally, but I have heard of it from instructors.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: oldfrank on July 29, 2017, 09:36:27 AM
I work usually four IDPA or similar matches each month and I see that technique about 20% of the time and I cringe every time.

It is not illegal and I have never seen an accident but the potential is there.

Let it fall. Pick it up if you can find it, if not move on. It is only pennies.
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Post by: Grizzlie on July 29, 2017, 06:04:40 PM
An interesting case. Quite the bad luck to have the slide detonate the primer/bullet.

I use that 'trick' sometimes to unload, turning the gun upside-down*. More often (say 80% of the time) I twist the gun a bit more than 45 degrees so that sling-shooting it back causes the round to eject directly up and I then catch it.

*However, when I think about how I go about unloading the round (gun upside-down), I don't 'slingshot' the slide back but rather guide it back under control...and I also don't use this technique to clear any type of failure (jam, hangfire, stovepipe, etc, etc)
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Post by: The Conservative on July 29, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
Learn something new all the time.  I have cleared pistols by putting my hand over the ejection port for many years and never even considered the possible danger.  I started doing it at matches when clearing 9 major and never stopped until now.  A lot of matches were on weeknights after dark.  Won't be doing that anymore.
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Post by: Redcat94 on July 30, 2017, 03:19:19 AM
I've heard of this happening before so I've always just let the cartridge fall out on to a clean surface. 
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: dshoub on November 10, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
No, I always leave the ejection port unblocked. I do however do my best to angle the gun in such a way as to have the round eject somewhat into the desired direction so it doesn't "escape."
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: Kenneth on November 10, 2017, 06:41:52 PM
I have the grip in my right hand, I roll the pistol over upside down, grab the slide with my left hand, palm up and pull the slide back.  The round falls in my hand not the dirt.

Never thought about the slide slipping out of my grip and catching the bullet just right between the lip of the chamber and the slide and setting it off.
That?s how I? do it as well. Actually that?s how MOST pistol actions shooters do it. The other way is the taking the slide, flip your pistol, and catch the live round. That?s the Hollywood way.


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Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: vaglocker on November 13, 2017, 10:53:42 AM
High primer on a reloaded round i assume. Hard to imagine the edge of the ejection port hitting with enough force to set it off in the situation described in the article, but who knows.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: DWARREN on November 13, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
Something had to hit the primer. Bad deal.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: Tyerone on November 13, 2017, 10:30:36 PM
No, I don't.
Title: Re: Saw this on another forum, Heck, I unload that way all the time. Do you?
Post by: Grendel on November 13, 2017, 10:47:50 PM
I do not have (and never have) anything over the ejection port when unloading.