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Title: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 15, 2017, 04:17:35 PM
CZ USA seems to announce their new products for the next year right around November 25th, give or take a few days. They haven't been teasing anything this year, but hopefully there are some new announcements all the same.

That being said what are you all wanting from CZ this year? Let's try breaking these into two separate groups:

Realistic Hope(s):

Pipe Dream(s):

Keep in mind we all have reasons for what we are hoping for and what we think might be realistic. This is for fun, so maintain the awesome reputation our forum has established for treating one another.

Realistic Hope(s):
1) Single stack 9mm. Rami, P-07 down to a subcompact single stack, or a P-10 sub compact single stack.
This is probably closer to a pipe dream. I love my Rami, but something like the P938 would be awesome for those times I need a deep carry piece.
2) Readily available P-01 Omega Models

Pipe Dream(s):
1) SP-01 10mm, SP-01 Compact 10mm, P-07 10mm, P-09 10mm, Rami 10mm. Not really interested on the 97 as a 10mm, it's a massive frame and it seems like the Tanfoglio Witnesses got the frame to a more manageable size.
2) Readily available slides, slide and barrel combos, and frames. Tanfoglio offers these and it would be amazing!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Grendel on November 15, 2017, 04:30:58 PM
Pipe dreams is about right.

I could see a fullsize P-10, but that's about all.

10mm is never going to happen - at least not in the way you're hoping for.

Caliber exchange kit (but still no 10mm) - like Sig did with the 226 might be a distant possibility.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 15, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
Yeah... It's too bad. If the full size P-10 comes along at least JoeL will get his wish.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Voodoo on November 15, 2017, 04:56:47 PM
Something P938 size would be great.
DA/SA even better.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on November 15, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
I would hazard a guess, and this is only a guess, that the subcompact P-10 might come along, don't know. the only things that would light my candle would be;

Subcompact P-10
BREN 806 pistol, any flavor
CZ527M in 6.5 Grendel or 6.8
BREN 805 in 6.5 Grendel or 6.8.

No, it is highly unlikely that CZ will ever chamber anything in 10mm besides that one lonely CZ-97 prototype, but if I had to have something in 10mm, it would be the Scorpion. 8)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Earl Keese on November 15, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
Grendel Bren or 10mm Scorpion...either would be saweeeeet!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: joel0019 on November 15, 2017, 08:52:37 PM
I would like a cz 97b compact



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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: huskerlrrp on November 15, 2017, 09:00:18 PM
Shadow 2 Orange.
Title: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Cyanide on November 15, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
Major pipe dream here, but I can dream... CZ 100 Subcompact!

Realistically, a shrunk down, single stack P-07, P-10, or RAMI would be awesome.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: The Guardian on November 15, 2017, 09:59:58 PM
I would like a cz 97b compact

First I heard of that configuration.....awesome thought there!  :)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: eastman on November 15, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: ProtectTheSecond on November 15, 2017, 10:37:23 PM
To die for...a CZ 75 SA Compact

CZ has a huge family of DA/SA so another family member
for the single action TS-SA clan would be cool
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Joe L on November 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM
Yeah... It's too bad. If the full size P-10 comes along at least JoeL will get his wish.

Full size P-10 in 9mm with slide milled for a red dot from the factory.  Or a 5" P-09, milled slide. 

But it makes better business sense to come out with the subcompact versions of whatever and work in a bunch of little fixes to the P-10C. 

It's all I can do to shoot what I have.  But I want a 5" polymer CZ of some kind, with a red dot.  I need to shoot a video at 200 yards again, and I don't want to try it with a 4" gun...but I might.

Joe 
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vernonion on November 15, 2017, 10:38:22 PM
Pipe dream: A store with the full CZ line available with some to rent.
Realistic: Delivery of the P10C FDE with Factory Night Sights that I ordered last November.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 15, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.

Was I right on timing though?  :D
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: myczaccount on November 15, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Ya I agree, I would def like to see a single stack 9mm
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: ernie_h on November 16, 2017, 09:02:36 AM
Since they seem to be big on plastics/polymers lately........gotta agree with the others on a single-stack 9mm or, perhaps, a subcompact double-stack....in a P-10 platform if they decide to push on with striker-fired.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: eastman on November 16, 2017, 07:40:10 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.

Was I right on timing though?  :D

I don't have the release date for this information, but mid-to-late November is the time for distributors to place orders for the next year's production schedule.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 16, 2017, 08:02:35 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.

Was I right on timing though?  :D

I don't have the release date for this information, but mid-to-late November is the time for distributors to place orders for the next year's production schedule.
Excellent!

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Tanners Owner on November 16, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Yeah... It's too bad. If the full size P-10 comes along at least JoeL will get his wish.

Full size P-10 in 9mm with slide milled for a red dot from the factory.  Or a 5" P-09, milled slide. 

But it makes better business sense to come out with the subcompact versions of whatever and work in a bunch of little fixes to the P-10C. 

It's all I can do to shoot what I have.  But I want a 5" polymer CZ of some kind, with a red dot.  I need to shoot a video at 200 yards again, and I don't want to try it with a 4" gun...but I might.

Joe

I agree w/ Joe, think a pistol capable of mounting RDS similar to M&P core, Glock MOS, would be cool. Also would like RDS mountable slides or complete uppers would also be neat too.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on November 16, 2017, 11:10:54 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.
That's more than I have...
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: SlvrDragon50 on November 17, 2017, 12:41:21 AM
Suppressor ready P10C for sure will be released.

But I'd also suspect either subcompact or fullsize P10. A Shadow 2 Orange would not be too surprising either.
Title: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Psyop96 on November 17, 2017, 02:49:42 AM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.
Don’t fret about the new product additions; just worry about the product deletions. That’s what you need to scoop up before they are gone, gone! (Well, some things do come back for CZ)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 17, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.
Don’t fret about the new product additions; just worry about the product deletions. That’s what you need to scoop up before they are gone, gone! (Well, some things do come back for CZ)

This is the most stressful part for me. I get worried a wish list CZ of mine might get axed and I'll be out of luck.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: jameslovesjammie on November 17, 2017, 02:32:23 PM
Not what I'm WANTING, but what I'm expecting:

1. Less guns in .40 S&W
2. More P10 series (long and possibly subcompact)
3. Even less 550's, more 557 variants
4. 455 left hand replace 452 left hand
5. Any shotgun I find mildly interesting will be discontinued (always how it goes!)

Not a very ground shaking prediction, but pretty well grounded in reality.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Psyop96 on November 17, 2017, 05:02:58 PM
Brno Express double rifle in American friendly calibers and the Operace Anthropoid CZ 75B limited edition
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Earl Keese on November 17, 2017, 06:11:34 PM
I have the list of new product additions (with pictures) and product deletions, but I am sworn to secrecy (until authorized by CZ).

Sorry guys.
Don’t fret about the new product additions; just worry about the product deletions. That’s what you need to scoop up before they are gone, gone! (Well, some things do come back for CZ)

This is the most stressful part for me. I get worried a wish list CZ of mine might get axed and I'll be out of luck.
At this point, all I really want is a Cajun S2 and a TSO .40. I have a feeling CZ will continue shifting production capacity to polymer guns.  :(
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: rl96ss on November 17, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
CZ 97 w/threaded barrel.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Earl Keese on November 17, 2017, 09:35:11 PM
CZ 97 w/threaded barrel.
From what I understand, the barrel is too thin for threading.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on November 17, 2017, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Psyop96
...and the Operace Anthropoid CZ 75B limited edition. :)

...the what?  :o
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Grendel on November 17, 2017, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: Psyop96
...and the Operace Anthropoid CZ 75B limited edition. :)

...the what?  :o

Operation Anthropoid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anthropoid).

Apparently, CZ made a limited edition 75b to commemorate the assassination of  SS Reichs Protecktor Reinhard Heydrich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich), one of the main figures behind the 'Final Solution', during WWII
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on November 17, 2017, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: Psyop96
...and the Operace Anthropoid CZ 75B limited edition. :)

...the what?  :o

Operation Anthropoid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anthropoid).

Apparently, CZ made a limited edition 75b to commemorate the assassination of  SS Reichs Protecktor Reinhard Heydrich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich), one of the main figures behind the 'Final Solution', during WWII
Ugh, these look amazing and commemorate an awesome story. Wish some came state side.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1600579-CZ-75B-Operation-Anthropoid-Edition

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: 1SOW on November 17, 2017, 11:23:40 PM
They only show one side of the model.  Would like to see the serial number/year.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on November 18, 2017, 01:22:22 AM
Beautiful work. WAY out of my price range, but beautiful work.  8)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: John1125 on November 18, 2017, 10:06:37 AM
OK ,

Here's what I would love to see , A semi compact 75 in the transitional platform. And maybe even milled for a red dot .  ;D Oh and single sided thumb safety , SAO .

I know that is probably impossible , but the thread is titled what you want .

Kirk
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: t107 on November 18, 2017, 10:38:57 AM
I would love a Stainless 75 SP01 Tactical or a 97BD.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: best sale on December 10, 2017, 02:51:31 PM
1. CZ P 10 Subcompact
2. New CZ P 07  with high grip & width dimension like P10c
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: 1SOW on December 11, 2017, 01:10:05 AM
A 9mm CZ single stack hammer fired decocker compact/sub-compact  (3.4-3.8 bbl) would fill my Christmas stocking this Christmas.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on December 11, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
Unless I'm reading it wrong, CZUSA FB said they were going to now do a OD green P07 and P09 with night sights, but they used a pic of an UG model with normal sights.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on December 11, 2017, 02:07:50 PM
This Monday morning drop each new product is killing me! I was a little bummed out with the OD Green announcement today. Just a new hue to the options of P-07 and P-09 pistols isn't much of an announcement.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: dozer on December 11, 2017, 08:49:29 PM
Would like to see steel frame decocker compact models along with bringing back duo tone and nickel.Pipe dream stainless compact decocker.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Tyerone on December 11, 2017, 09:05:36 PM
It would be difficilt to resist a SS compact of any variety.  Of course, a 15 to 18oz single stack would be irresistible.   Sure, a milled, red dot friendly compact slide in stainless would find some time to ride on top of my existing compatible frames, including a semicompact configuration. 8)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Goju on December 12, 2017, 06:22:43 AM
Would like to see steel frame decocker compact models along with bringing back duo tone and nickel.Pipe dream stainless compact decocker.
This. For me, taken a step further, think a Retro 75C / D.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Usmo on December 23, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
Single stack for me.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: GeneticallySwiss on December 23, 2017, 08:07:26 PM
A commercially available version of the CZ 806 BREN 2 A1. 


GS
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: skin on December 24, 2017, 03:48:47 PM
 I would like to see a higher pressure 30 cal, 7.62 cartridge, maybe an updated 30 luger in a steel cz75 platform.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on December 25, 2017, 06:02:45 PM
OK, 2018 is just a few days away. What's it gonna be for new handguns from CZ? I can only hope for....

Like others have requested.....
Pre-milled P-07and/or P-09 optic-ready/suppressor-ready models

Single Stack micro 9
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Coleman on December 25, 2017, 11:50:44 PM
CZ P10 full size and subcompact are both coming sure thing may not be 2018 sure hope so but id say its a good possibility the full size may come mid to late 2018. They only need to manufacture the slide and barrels they'll most likely come with same frame and mags with extended base pads. This is most likely the reason itll come before the subcompact. Im sure theyll evaluate what sells best for other manufacturers. Even though they are in bad shape in the conceal carry end of guns outside of the rami. But i could be wrong about it all. Im just looking at what the market is asking for as they will to. And its all P10 because this gun has brought them a slough of new customers theyd never had without it.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on December 26, 2017, 07:55:36 AM
CZ P10 full size and subcompact are both coming sure thing may not be 2018 sure hope so but id say its a good possibility the full size may come mid to late 2018. They only need to manufacture the slide and barrels they'll most likely come with same frame and mags with extended base pads. This is most likely the reason itll come before the subcompact. Im sure theyll evaluate what sells best for other manufacturers. Even though they are in bad shape in the conceal carry end of guns outside of the rami. But i could be wrong about it all. Im just looking at what the market is asking for as they will to. And its all P10 because this gun has brought them a slough of new customers theyd never had without it.

You're undoubtedly correct that they will concentrate upon filling out the P10 product line.
However, offering an optic-ready product like milled P-07/09 to compete with Glock's MOS; I believe wouldn't really take much effort. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: cntrydawwwg on December 29, 2017, 08:37:58 PM
For those who like Urban grey,
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171230/35fe441668b658a3030d6b30e394be9f.jpg)
 
http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/shot-show-2018/
   Supposedly coming
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: myczaccount on December 30, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
For those who like Urban grey,
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171230/35fe441668b658a3030d6b30e394be9f.jpg)
 
http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/shot-show-2018/
   Supposedly coming

Looks beautiful
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: dbarn on January 01, 2018, 10:36:47 PM
Something not too out in left field and an improvement to an already great pistol.

Would love to see a more reduced and less obtrusive slide stop for the P-01 pistol for those of us that use a high thumbs grip. At least with the SP-01 we have the option of using the nice flat unobtrusive RAMI slide stop.

How about a similar option for the P-01? At least Scott at CGW was kind enough to mill the existing slide stop down for me. But it would be nice to see a factory non extended-non interfering flat slide stop.

Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: 0119 on January 02, 2018, 07:19:16 AM
Instead of new models for 2018 I'd like to see them use the $ and effort to make their factory bigger/efficient so more blasted CZ's come into the country and are SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO BUY!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Arndog123 on January 02, 2018, 07:31:02 AM
Can't wait for this to come out 8),
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s2-pistol-micro-w-brace/
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 10:34:46 AM
SO far, for new pistols on the CZUSA website I see some new color P-10C's, suppressor-ready P-10C, but NO announcement of a P-10S sub-compact yet!

Understandably, they're trying to keep up with orders for models already in the line. Changing colors and barrels, no big deal.

I still wish they'd offer a couple of models like P-07, P-09 or P-10 with pre-milled slide optic-ready like Glock, Sig, FNH, etc., etc.
I'm finding I like Red Dot with iron co-witness more and more. Is it just me??
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Mike Russell on January 02, 2018, 10:56:16 AM
At the risk of beating a dead horse that will never come to fruition...

I'd really like a 97 frame, TS slide, 10mm.

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: cntrydawwwg on January 02, 2018, 11:02:59 AM
For some reason I don’t think the P10s or F will come out till the US factory is built. Hope I’m wrong, just a gut feeling. 
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 11:19:38 AM
At the risk of beating a dead horse that will never come to fruition...

I'd really like a 97 frame, TS slide, 10mm.

 ;) ;D

OK, You're undoubtedly right, I'll consider my horse dead.
Thank goodness for us there's a 10mm EAA Witness Elite Match-Tangfolio, FNH-FNX Tactical optic-ready, and sources like CZCustom, Primary Machine, and CGW. Variety is the Cajun Spice of life!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Mike Russell on January 02, 2018, 12:55:45 PM
OK, You're undoubtedly right, I'll consider my horse dead.
Thank goodness for us there's a 10mm EAA Witness Elite Match-Tangfolio, FNH-FNX Tactical optic-ready, and sources like CZCustom, Primary Machine, and CGW. Variety is the Cajun Spice of life!

Vinny, I was REALLY hoping for one for so many years, but it's just not going to happen. If it does, I'll be pleasantly surprised and buy one as soon as they're available.

We were holding out hope on the XD forum about Springfield's obvious 10mm announcement...which ended up being an overpriced TRP 1911 in a flooded 10mm 1911 market, rather than the XD and/or XDm we were hoping for (as an alternate to the Glock).
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 04:40:33 PM
Mike,
I know it's not a 10mm CZ, but in the meantime can that void be filled by EAA's Tanfoglio 10mm Witness Elite Match? Apparently the design is very similar to CZ and executed in Tanfoglio's Italian Custom Shop. I do see some positive comments in the CZForum 'Clone' section; but I've never really experienced one. Have you tried one of these?? (However, beware EAA's customer service gets poor reviews). I know, it's not a CZ!

Anyhow, just picked up my new P-07 SR at FFL today. Sending it off next for slide milling and optic mount. I could have waited for one of those 'pretty new 2018 colors', but plain 'ol black will have to do with some handsome Talon grip wraps. So for now....I've got plenty of CZ goodness to keep me busy.  O0
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Mike Russell on January 02, 2018, 05:16:56 PM
Vinny, I've got a couple of Tanfos...including an Elite Match in .38Super. Great guns in the upper grades, so so (IMO) in the lower levels. For me, I needed a hunting sidearm and it came down to the Witness Hunter and the Big Rock, I went with the Big Rock for a few reasons (most of which are personal preference things). I'd still jump on a CZ 10mm in a heartbeat (and probably a Springfield XDm 5.25 in 10mm as well)...I'm just not holding my breath.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on January 02, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
Mike,
I know it's not a 10mm CZ, but in the meantime can that void be filled by EAA's Tanfoglio 10mm Witness Elite Match? Apparently the design is very similar to CZ and executed in Tanfoglio's Italian Custom Shop. I do see some positive comments in the CZForum 'Clone' section; but I've never really experienced one. Have you tried one of these?? (However, beware EAA's customer service gets poor reviews). I know, it's not a CZ!

Anyhow, just picked up my new P-07 SR at FFL today. Sending it off next for slide milling and optic mount. I could have waited for one of those 'pretty new 2018 colors', but plain 'ol black will have to do with some handsome Talon grip wraps. So for now....I've got plenty of CZ goodness to keep me busy.  O0
They have legendarily bad customer service! But if you check out the 10mm forum the above comments are mirrored. Get a medium to higher end one and you'll be set. One member has out thousand of full house 10mm rounds through his Hunter and it is still running strong.

I had one for a bit and it was incredible!
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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 05:33:06 PM
Vinny, I've got a couple of Tanfos...including an Elite Match in .38Super. Great guns in the upper grades, so so (IMO) in the lower levels. For me, I needed a hunting sidearm and it came down to the Witness Hunter and the Big Rock, I went with the Big Rock for a few reasons (most of which are personal preference things). I'd still jump on a CZ 10mm in a heartbeat (and probably a Springfield XDm 5.25 in 10mm as well)...I'm just not holding my breath.

Mike, sounds like you've already got your bases well covered. The (someday, maybe) CZ 97 with the TS Slide in 10mm would be icing on the cake!
Liked your recent comments too in the 'Shotgun for HD' discussion.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 05:41:07 PM
Scarlett Pistol,
Now THOSE are some handsome pistols.  Nice shoot'in too. Thanks for the post.  -Vinny
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: zaxXxon on January 02, 2018, 06:38:05 PM
CZ USA seems to announce their new products for the next year right around November 25th, give or take a few days. They haven't been teasing anything this year, but hopefully there are some new announcements all the same.

That being said what are you all wanting from CZ this year? Let's try breaking these into two separate groups:

Realistic Hope(s):

Pipe Dream(s):

Keep in mind we all have reasons for what we are hoping for and what we think might be realistic. This is for fun, so maintain the awesome reputation our forum has established for treating one another.

Realistic Hope(s):
1) Single stack 9mm. Rami, P-07 down to a subcompact single stack, or a P-10 sub compact single stack.
This is probably closer to a pipe dream. I love my Rami, but something like the P938 would be awesome for those times I need a deep carry piece.
2) Readily available P-01 Omega Models

Pipe Dream(s):
1) SP-01 10mm, SP-01 Compact 10mm, P-07 10mm, P-09 10mm, Rami 10mm. Not really interested on the 97 as a 10mm, it's a massive frame and it seems like the Tanfoglio Witnesses got the frame to a more manageable size.
2) Readily available slides, slide and barrel combos, and frames. Tanfoglio offers these and it would be amazing!
I'd like urban grey to go away for a while for suppressor ready p-07, 09, and sp-01s

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: zaxXxon on January 02, 2018, 06:39:29 PM


Major pipe dream here, but I can dream... CZ 100 Subcompact!

Realistically, a shrunk down, single stack P-07, P-10, or RAMI would be awesome.

A single stack da/sa would be nice.  I'm fighting the urge to get a xde.  (I know, I know)

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 02, 2018, 07:29:06 PM


Major pipe dream here, but I can dream... CZ 100 Subcompact!

Realistically, a shrunk down, single stack P-07, P-10, or RAMI would be awesome.

A single stack da/sa would be nice.  I'm fighting the urge to get a xde.  (I know, I know)

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Mike Russell on January 02, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
A single stack da/sa would be nice.  I'm fighting the urge to get a xde.  (I know, I know)

Have you seen and held a XDe in person? They're not as small/compact as the XDs (thanks to needing room for the mechanism). As much as I like the XD series, after handling one it was a no go for me. It just didn't feel right and the trigger was typical Springfield...it needs work.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: zaxXxon on January 02, 2018, 11:04:52 PM
A single stack da/sa would be nice.  I'm fighting the urge to get a xde.  (I know, I know)

Have you seen and held a XDe in person? They're not as small/compact as the XDs (thanks to needing room for the mechanism). As much as I like the XD series, after handling one it was a no go for me. It just didn't feel right and the trigger was typical Springfield...it needs work.
I rented one a few times at my local range and where it's not as short as the XDS I believe it's the thinnest da/sa hammer fired out there (definitely a big difference from my PX4 compact), and where you're also right about the trigger, I was liking it after a few mags.  Shot very well, without much kick.

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: miller_man on January 03, 2018, 07:02:53 AM
I would love to see a p-09 slide on a p-07 frame. Pretty sure that's a pipe dream though.
 I may be making one for myself in the future.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: jameslovesjammie on January 03, 2018, 08:43:48 AM
2018's are on CZ's site.  I don't know if it is a complete list or if they are waiting until SHOT for a few others.  The rifle on the 2018 button on the main page isn't shown in the new page.

(http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/themes/cz-2015/images/cz-usa-new-updated-2018.png)

http://cz-usa.com/product-category/new-and-updated
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: s0nspark on January 03, 2018, 11:14:36 AM
I want them to send me one of each of the new things - that is what I want ;-)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on January 03, 2018, 02:21:42 PM
Dang.... Nothing exciting on the pistol front. Way cool stuff for the Scorpion!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Tyerone on January 03, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
Wow -- chamberings for Nosler cartridges, but no 6.5mm Creedmoor!  No worries, I think I'm done with rifle need for the foreseeable.  My shotgun collection is pretty sorry, however. . . hmmmmm.  No mention of the steel compacts with safeties & rail, so maybe they can just put some SS compacts out there without advertising them as well!!!  I'm sure we'd all be racing to pick them up!

WHAT?  No more 10mm Scarlett?  Did you finally come over to the revolver side -- perhaps a nice and lightweight Ruger SP101 4" in .357?  That is all 10mm wanted to be anyway. . .
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 03, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
Wow! Look at all those pretty new 2018 pistol colors.  ::) CZ's starstruck with strikers.

For now I'm happy and thankful for the DA/SA CZ's I have. Maybe a P-09.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Scarlett Pistol on January 03, 2018, 08:10:45 PM
WHAT?  No more 10mm Scarlett?  Did you finally come over to the revolver side -- perhaps a nice and lightweight Ruger SP101 4" in .357?  That is all 10mm wanted to be anyway. . .

Not right now... I sure miss it. I worked up a load that did 800 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. It was right on par with Underwood 357 Magnum loads. And I really wanted 9x25 Dillon too but for now no 10mm. I'm really lust in for 460 S&W Magnum for a hunting revolver, but right now I've got magnum loads and 10mm on hold.  :(
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: cntrydawwwg on January 03, 2018, 08:45:55 PM
I’m not much into OD green, but the OD P07 does look cool. Wish CZ would incorporate the P10 Palm swell into the P07 tho. Feels much better to me.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Earl Keese on January 03, 2018, 09:00:54 PM
I’m not much into OD green, but the OD P07 does look cool. Wish CZ would incorporate the P10 Palm swell into the P07 tho. Feels much better to me.
Me too.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Tyerone on January 03, 2018, 10:32:19 PM
@Scarlett  .460-- youch!  Good old .44 Rem Magnum is pretty stout!  I'm sure you could work up a bear load.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: jameslovesjammie on January 03, 2018, 11:35:46 PM
I’m not much into OD green, but the OD P07 does look cool.

That's what I thought about the OD Green P09!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: zaxXxon on January 04, 2018, 12:02:37 AM
I’m not much into OD green, but the OD P07 does look cool.

That's what I thought about the OD Green P09!
They do look good in OD, but I hope they look good in person. FDE in person on a SP01 looked a bit off.

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on January 04, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
Quote from: 0119
Instead of new models for 2018 I'd like to see them use the $ and effort to make their factory bigger/efficient so more blasted CZ's come into the country and are SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO BUY!

So, I'm guessing you'd like to hear that CZ-USA has a factory under construction at this exact minute in Kansas City?  ;D ;) 8) I thought you would.

New models can be seen at the cz-usa.com website under New For 2018 under Products. I'm liking the silver nitride version of the P-10C, though the new Sharp Tail Coach 20 gauge shotgun might be awesome for the wife. :D
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Cyanide on January 04, 2018, 01:58:42 AM
I’m not much into OD green, but the OD P07 does look cool. Wish CZ would incorporate the P10 Palm swell into the P07 tho. Feels much better to me.
Me too.
Me three!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: 0119 on January 04, 2018, 07:28:24 AM
Quote from: 0119
Instead of new models for 2018 I'd like to see them use the $ and effort to make their factory bigger/efficient so more blasted CZ's come into the country and are SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO BUY!

So, I'm guessing you'd like to hear that CZ-USA has a factory under construction at this exact minute in Kansas City?  ;D ;) 8) I thought you would.



Only if they don't downgrade in quality from it like Sig did.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on January 04, 2018, 07:35:36 AM
http://www.paragonpride.com/forum/data/attachments/9/9040-e49f591e6c2093491f03d8ff3a6a28a4.jpg'

Anyone know if this is a fake photoshop or an actual F model.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: zaxXxon on January 04, 2018, 08:24:37 AM
Quote from: 0119
Instead of new models for 2018 I'd like to see them use the $ and effort to make their factory bigger/efficient so more blasted CZ's come into the country and are SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO BUY!

So, I'm guessing you'd like to hear that CZ-USA has a factory under construction at this exact minute in Kansas City?  ;D ;) 8) I thought you would.

New models can be seen at the cz-usa.com website under New For 2018 under Products. I'm liking the silver nitride version of the P-10C, though the new Sharp Tail Coach 20 gauge shotgun might be awesome for the wife. :D
Nice!

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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on January 04, 2018, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: 0119
Instead of new models for 2018 I'd like to see them use the $ and effort to make their factory bigger/efficient so more blasted CZ's come into the country and are SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO BUY!

So, I'm guessing you'd like to hear that CZ-USA has a factory under construction at this exact minute in Kansas City?  ;D ;) 8) I thought you would.

New models can be seen at the cz-usa.com website under New For 2018 under Products. I'm liking the silver nitride version of the P-10C, though the new Sharp Tail Coach 20 gauge shotgun might be awesome for the wife. :D
Good shout out, haven't checked the site in a while! Those new Green P-series guns come with night sights. $599 for the P09 and $539 for the P07. two tone, colored frame, and night sights for probably $500 street value, DANG.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: NMhvactech on January 04, 2018, 02:17:02 PM
1) I would like to see more guns milled for red dots, CZ build more guns in stainless, use better finishes that don’t wear off or start rusting so easily, definitely small CCW single stacks in both metal and polymer to compete with M&P shields.
2) Polymer pistols are great, but I own or have owned 20-30 different ones and I am increasing my CZ collection because they are metal! So please don’t go all in on polymer and neglect the metal guns.
3) I prefer the 550 Mauser action to the new 557, bring back more 550’s. Also I would prefer 24” barrels not 20”, wtf!!! With threaded barrels. Also, where is the 6.5 creedmoore or 7-08, 280???
4) Revolvers for competition like the s&w ssr or Ruger match champion.
5) Dedicated shotguns and semi-auto rifle designed for 3-gun competition.
6) .22 rifles for 3 position shooting for kids in 4-H etc.

Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: NMhvactech on January 04, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
I have another few things I would like to see in the competition line of pistols:
I like the looks and feel of the Tanfoglio Xtreme line and think CZ could improve upon their features  1) Do more slide lighting and frame reduction, the TS & TSO 40’s grip frames are bulky compared to the CZC frame models and the Tanfoglio’s feel a little different.
2) Better magwell materials and Blend them to the frame!!!
3) Install the Aluminium trigger
4) Make these pistols in stainless steel!!! I like the looks of the Tanfoglio
5) Expand the options, colors, and calibers in the Czechmate line and TS Limited line.
6) Squares out the trigger guard with grip underneath and put a larger thumbrest
I love my CZ competition pistols, I just feel the Tanfoglio Xtreme line are slightly nicer.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 04, 2018, 05:59:27 PM
I too was hoping for some CZ pistols milled for red dots, with proper height co-witness sights. Maybe I'll just go buy a Sig 229 RX that's all set up to go, instead of waiting for CZ to catch up. Same with my Summertime pocket micro-carry gun; I was forced to go with Sig because CZ has NO option. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with Sig; but I'd bet applying some Czech-nology CZ could do better for a lot less $.

I could just imagine how nice a PCR, 75 (steel) Compact, or P-01 would be all set up with a small red-dot (like a Vortex Venom or RMR) and TFX Pro co-witness sights from CZ.  I'd be OK with a milled P-07 or P-09 too.  Someday.  :-\
(https://i.imgur.com/Lj6z7ws.jpg?1)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: huskerlrrp on January 04, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Looks like it was light R&D spending in the Czech Republic during 2017 as I find little really new offered. Maybe 2019?
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: armoredman on January 05, 2018, 01:58:41 AM
I confess I am seriously underwhelmed with red dots on carry pistols. Probably just because I am a fat old man, grew up with irons or glass being the only choices. It seems like the red dot would complicate carrying the pistol, (more things sticking out), and you have to worry if your dot is going to work at that crucial, OMG moment...but modern stuff is probably good enough even for an old curmudgeon like me.
I doubt CZ would give up on the steel guns - the 75B is still in production getting closer to 50 years long. :)
I can hope that some of the R&D money went to the new factory...and yes, I agree, I certainly hope quality is the same high level.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: s0nspark on January 05, 2018, 08:39:43 AM
I confess I am seriously underwhelmed with red dots on carry pistols. Probably just because I am a fat old man, grew up with irons or glass being the only choices. It seems like the red dot would complicate carrying the pistol, (more things sticking out), and you have to worry if your dot is going to work at that crucial, OMG moment...but modern stuff is probably good enough even for an old curmudgeon like me.

FWIW, I was slow on the uptake with RDS-equipped pistols... I shared some of your concerns plus I was hesitant to invest the money in something I wouldn't know worked until I'd made the leap ;-)

Things I've learned since making the leap:

01. Acquisition with the dot is both faster and easier than irons - up close and, especially at distance.
02. Tracking the dot during recoil can be a challenge but no more so than tracking irons IMO.
03. The RMR does add a tiny bit to the carry footprint but I have had no issues with concealment carrying appendix.
04. Reliability has been a non-issue with Trijicon RMRs. I change batteries well ahead of schedule and make no effort to turn the dots down or off.
05. Some batteries are better than others. I've had best luck with Duracells. Energizers sourced in bulk from Amazon were, uh, weak.
06. The RDS is an incredible training aid during dry fire. The dot is mercilessly unforgiving when you move the pistol during the trigger press ;-)
07. With time you learn to live with "dot wobble". This is related to #6 - you will see movement in the dot when holding on target that you probably didn't notice with irons.
08. Smaller dot sizes may not be ideal. You see more movement with them in my experience and they can be harder to pick up at speed.   
09. There absolutely is a learning curve. The red dot "is just there" when your presentation is right - it is less tolerant of a sloppy presentation.
10. Cost can be a concern, especially for the CZ fan. I chose to have my P-07s milled because I wanted the lowest profile with irons that cowitness. Not cheap.

YMMV, of course.

I still shoot regularly with irons-only pistols - just to stay proficient - but I could not see going back to that by choice. The way I summarize for folks who are curious is that an RDS doesn't really help you shoot better - it helps you see better - but that does enable you to focus more on shooting and less on seeing ;-) It may not hold true for everyone but my shooting has improved tremendously as a result.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 05, 2018, 09:37:18 AM
s0nspark,
Excellent recap of the pros/cons of red dots.
For me, it's all about seeing. My eyes are aging and my 'readers' are now up to 2.50.  In low light with irons I struggle to see both the target and the irons and found a compromise of 1.50 safety lenses allows me to see both, sort of. Thankfully, my distance vision is still OK.

My defensive shooting instructor turned me onto a red dot. Yes, he did caution me that there's a learning curve. I can now shoot with both eyes open (no more squinting), focusing on my target, I've developed the muscle memory to bring the dot quickly into the sight picture. With both eyes open I also have more situational awareness.  The results are significantly faster TIMES hitting a string of multiple targets. Once I got used to the red dot, it was like an epiphany. A red dot is such an advantage, especially for those of us with aging eyes.

I'm also trying to ramp up my iron sights to TFX.  Ideally, a combination of TFX irons and Red Dot like the new Sig 229 Legion RX. IMHO it's a state-of-the-art handgun. It's so new it's not even on their website yet, but probably Shot Show intro.

The only other alternative for guys like me may be learning how to point-and-shoot better without using any sights. A hit-or-miss proposition.

Doubtful that CZ will take the lead on any of these technological advancements; at least not until the USA factory is operational. Meanwhile..good thing for us there's CGW, CZCustom, Primary Machine, Springer, etc. to help us turn up the wick on our own.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 05, 2018, 10:44:05 AM
P.S. For anyone wanting to try a Red Dot/with Iron Co-Witness on their CZ...... pictured above is my SP-01 that I added a JPoint Red Dot with tall (.275) Dawson FO front co-witness that I did without milling for just over $300. I posted a detailed DIY with part #'s  in 'Club CZ 75's' on Dec. 31st. It sits nice and low directly atop the slide w/o an extra metal plate, the rear sight notch is built into the JPoint optic, and it can be added to any 75 Full or Compact series like PCR,P-01, or full-size 75's. It uses the rear dovetail, so if you don't like it you can easily remove and return your rear iron.  -Vinny
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: s0nspark on January 05, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
P.S. For anyone wanting to try a Red Dot/with Iron Co-Witness on their CZ...... pictured above is my SP-01 that I added a JPoint Red Dot with tall (.275) Dawson FO front co-witness that I did without milling for just over $300. I posted a detailed DIY with part #'s  in 'Club CZ 75's' on Dec. 31st.

Excellent tip, Vinny - that is a great way to dip the toes in the water! :-)
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 05, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
BTW-  Here's an article from American Rifleman that really covers the topic of handgun RDS for anyone interested in learning more:  https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/11/20/optics-ready-handguns-and-mini-reflex-sight-round-up/ 
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: captainspaulding on January 14, 2018, 05:06:52 PM
I want a Polymer rami!!


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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: MadDuner on January 14, 2018, 05:12:53 PM
I love my RDS on ARs. I have tried them on a few handguns, and just cannot get comfortable with them. Open iron sights it is for me.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Cyanide on January 14, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
I want a Polymer rami!!


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They already made one years ago and it didn’t do so well. Not sure of specifics, but sure someone else here knows.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: captainspaulding on January 14, 2018, 06:00:28 PM
I want a Polymer rami!!


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They already made one years ago and it didn’t do so well. Not sure of specifics, but sure someone else here knows.


Yes sir, I’m meaning I want an updated one that the Polymer isn’t prone to cracking/bulging.  I would even take a subcompact P10 or a subcompact p07/09


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Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Cyanide on January 14, 2018, 06:04:25 PM
You and I both on the subcompact P-07!
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Vinny on January 14, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
I love my RDS on ARs. I have tried them on a few handguns, and just cannot get comfortable with them. Open iron sights it is for me.

Everyone's different, and good that we have many options for upgraded sights. If CZ continues to shun offering an optic-ready pistol, there's plenty of aftermarket options available to us, albeit at extra cost.

A good read on Primary Machine's 'Knowledge Center' page cites a couple of reasons for RDS.
1. Aging eyesight.
2. Faster and more accurate competitive shooting.
An RDS also helps in poor light conditions. However, everyone agrees that there's a learning curve; and if your eyes are good for irons, why bother? I get that.

I wish I was 30 years younger when I had sharp eyesight.  ::) 

But admittedly, I'm still not ready to trust RDS on my carry or HD gun.  However, I can see what direction my eyes are going, so I want to practice with RDS to be ready to remain able to shoot quickly and accurately.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: sparks701 on January 19, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
I’m with a few others. I would love a p10sub. Size of my XDS but double stacked.
Title: Re: New CZ Announcements Soon, What Are You Wanting?
Post by: Tyerone on January 19, 2018, 10:58:24 PM
  8) What?  Did you say that there will be a HUMUNGOUS release of compact stainless steel options for us regular folks?!!! 8)