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Offline Bret

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124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« on: March 23, 2025, 09:21:56 PM »
I recently purchased some BPS 124gr FMJ ammunition for $200/1000rd case, so I decided to break out my Xero C1 Pro Compact chronograph today to see how it compared to some other 124gr FMJ loads.  I fired ten cartridges of each through my Sig M11-A1TB.  It has a threaded barrel that's about a half inch longer than a typical M11-A1 (P229) barrel.  Reliability was 100%.  Here are the results:
CCI Blazer Brass: 1087fps, 14.3fps std dev, 48fps extreme spread, 325ft-lb
Geco R: 1044fps, 12.7fps std dev, 42fps extreme spread, 300ft-lb
BPS: 1160fps, 20.0fps std dev, 66fps extreme spread, 371ft-lb
Winchester NATO: 1136fps, 25.8fps std dev, 76fps extreme spread, 356ft-lb
Scorpio: 1073fps, 10.5fps std dev, 33fps extreme spread, 317ft-lb

I was surprised regarding how hot the BPS is.  It was hotter than the Winchester NATO spec, so it's definitely in the +P range.  That isn't noted anywhere on the box.  Recoil was noticeably stronger than the other cartridges and the spent cases went the furthest.  Primers were flattened and the lettering on the case heads were not as sharp after firing.  It was also 4th out of five as far as the consistency of the velocity.  This is definitely ammunition that you want to keep away from pistols that were not designed to handle +P 9mm.  I'll probably just relegate it to my 9mm pistol caliber carbines.

The inconsistency of the Winchester NATO velocity was disappointing.  I've shot a ton of this cartridge over the years, so I know that it's decently accurate.

The CCI Blazer Brass and Geco R are good regular power 9mm cartridges with decent consistency.

In my opinion, the Scorpio was the overall winner from a consistency standpoint.  Unfortunately, I only have two cases left and it's now more expensive than it once was at about $250 per case.


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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2025, 08:23:11 AM »
Good report. Thanks for posting.
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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2025, 02:12:27 PM »
BPS stands for Barnaul Patron Service, had to look it up.  Russian Barnaul

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2025, 02:27:22 PM »
This BPS is actually Turkish.
https://en.bpsas.com.tr/

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2025, 06:48:00 PM »
https://en.bpsas.com.tr/

You were testing NATO-spec loads.
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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2025, 10:56:12 PM »
That is apparently the case.  They should mention that on the box.

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2025, 09:00:34 AM »
This BPS is actually Turkish.
https://en.bpsas.com.tr/

Ah, the other BPS.  Thanks for the thread Bret!

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2025, 07:44:51 PM »
The Winchester NATO ammo doesn't do so well in my P01.  Shoots pretty good in the Shields though.  It makes my 2.0 5" 9MM shoot decent groups as well.

On the other hand, the 115 grain PD hollow points that do so well in the P01 and P09 don't shoot for beams in the bigger M&Ps.  The Shields do pretty well with them.

Sometimes you just need to find the right ammo to feed them.

Guns are funny.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2025, 04:31:55 PM »
That is apparently the case.  They should mention that on the box.

No "Stanag 4090" printed anywhere?

I see BPS is also making 115-gr FMJ and 124-gr JHP loads that are not NATO-spec. But, all three of their 9 Luger offerings have a precision spec of 3 in at 50 yd.

Where did you find this gem of a cartridge for 20¢/round at a time when MSRP for premium defensive ammo is ~$2/round? Did the outlet carry the other two loads?
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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2025, 06:02:44 PM »
No "Stanag 4090" printed anywhere?
No, but here's what the description on the email that I received said.  I have to assume that the website said the same.
Limited Time Sale BPS Ammo 9mm 124gr FMJ 1210 FPS Brass Cased 50/box [20 Boxes] 1000 Round Case Free Shipping
BPS-22D919P006-1000
Brand: BPS
$200.00


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Where did you find this gem of a cartridge for 20¢/round at a time when MSRP for premium defensive ammo is ~$2/round? Did the outlet carry the other two loads?[/size]
It was at aeammo.com, but it's no longer listed on their website.  I would not say that it's premium defensive ammo.  It sure runs fast, but a 124gr FMJ that with low velocity consistency isn't premium.  I don't know about MSRP, but the real-world price of premium defensive 9mm ammo is nowhere near $2/round.  You can literally buy Federal 124gr +P HST for $0.50/round.  That's about as premium as it gets.

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Re: 124gr FMJ 9mm chrono results
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2025, 11:41:42 PM »

1210 FPS


A clue. But, as a consumer I want to be hit over the head with info.

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124gr FMJ that with low velocity consistency isn't premium.  I don't know about MSRP, but the real-world price of premium defensive 9mm ammo is nowhere near $2/round.  You can literally buy Federal 124gr +P HST for $0.50/round.  That's about as premium as it gets.
I wasn't implying a FMJ load is a premium defensive load. I was making an inartful, apples-to-oranges, comparison to your very reasonably priced "practice" loads (unless you are on a battlefield subject to the Hague Convention). I was on the Federal website last week looking up ballistics data for pistol cartridges. I noticed 9 Luger HSTs, including your 124-gr +Ps, were listed at $39.99 for a box of 20: $2/round. Good to know that they can be had for a 75% discount.
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