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Offline M1A4ME

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Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« on: April 25, 2019, 04:53:08 PM »
My wife's been complaining about how heavy the CZ75 Compact is (the one I spent all the money for the milling/front sight/cerakote and DP Pro on) and she'd rather not carry it.  Oh well.  She needs to carry.  Had an incident a couple weeks back were someone dumped some fighting pitbulls off a few houses down the road from us.  My wife and her mom walk down that road for exercise sometimes.  Oh, County police and animal control people picked all the dogs up that night, but still, if it happens again will someone be out walking down there while the dogs are still running around.

So, I went and bought an M&P Performance Center Shield 9MM for her to carry.  Great price (Cabela's = $399).  Picked it up today and headed to the range with my CZ75B .40, too.

Observations at the range on the M&P Shield:
1) very light.  Unloaded weight is listed at 18.2 oz.  We didn't weigh it loaded with 8 or 9 rounds.
2) you can see a bit of "fire" fly out of the ports when it's fired
3) she started off shooting way low (10 to 12") and the groups worked higher the longer she shot it.  Don't know if it was her or the pistol.
4) shoots the 115 grain PD hollow points on top of Blue Dot powder better than the Federal 115 grain FMJ factory loads. 
5) darn thing shoots pretty good for barely fitting in my hand (the 9 round magazine ain't bad, the 8 round magazine is a little too short for my pinky finger to stay on the grip, makes it harder to shoot when it's doing that.  My group opened up a measureable amount.
6) comes with tritium night sights, too.
7) left side thumb safety (like her CZ75 Compact - manual of arms is the same for her, but she won't have a DA pull option if she gets a dud round).
8) two more "big" magazines ordered.

Not bad for $399.

She says she likes it.  She realizes she needs to practice with it.  She shoots her CZ75 Compact better.  Heck, she shoot my CZ75B .40 S&W better than she shot the Shield.  Good enough to keep it in the face/center mass of the chest at 8 yds., but her targets with the .40 sere much better.

Shield



Shield target (mine) with a magazine of the 115 grain PD hollow points sitting on a charge of Blue Dot.  I could live with groups like this from offhand shooting at 7.5 yds.



That spur hammer from CZ USA is awesome.  I'll need to dig out the CZ75 Compact I used the first spur hammer in but until I do a side by side I'm saying this trigger feels even better that the first one.  The SA trigger pull is the same, but doggone it this one just feels even lighter than the 3 lbs. it actually shows on the trigger pull gauge.  Only difference (I know of) is the first one is mated to the standard CZ75 Compact sear.  This .40 is mated to a CGW adjustable sear.  Just my opinion, for what it's worth, but the SA trigger pull on this one is just awesome.  Not quite scary, like the TS .40, but so darn easy/smooth/crisp it's almost a crime.

My CZ75B .40 S&W



My wife shot a group with the 140 grain Missouri Bullet Co. lead bullets sitting on a charge of Herco.  It was a bit better than her group with the fast 135 grain hollow points.  And better than she shot her new M&P with either the Federal 115 grain FMJ or the 115 grain hollow points.  She liked my P09 .40 S&W, too, but those guns are just too big/heavy for her to try to carry concealed.



My best 135 grain Nosler (sitting on a load of Blue Dot) group.  Thirteen rounds at 8.75 yds.  I think I need to adjust the rear sight over to the left a small amount as I'll most likely keep shooting this load/ammo.  This group was shot at a much faster rate than I usually shoot.  Not sure why, except the second shot "sneaked out" on my and was a good hit with the first shot so the thought popped into my head to just keep shooting faster rather than taking the usual time to try to make sight alignment PERFECT, like I usually do.



Got both of them cleaned up and lubed right after lunch and I'm going to head out the door to mow the yard before the rains start tomorrow.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 05:54:43 PM »
     Hiya M1A4ME and thanks for the range report and the motivations for your new gun purchase. It sounds like a great value. And hope she grows to shoot better with it soon. But your closing comment took my thoughts on another tangent,as I recalled a member here talking about how well the 97b of his carried during yard work. So I wondered where Mrs. M1A4ME was in that curve we all have gone thru in the process of learning how to EDC proper and as comfortable as feasible. Did you guys consider holsters like a fanny pack that many walkers use to aid ease of carry/conceal?  Believe we all know purse holsters are a big market,with skirts not being the best for, in or out waistband carry. Be well.

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 07:56:28 PM »
I know she wouldn't go for a fanny pack.

The purse thing is probably out, too.  She goes through purses pretty darn fast.  This one is perfect, she has to have it, and a couple three months later there is something wrong with it and she has to get a different one.

And, she's into long dresses.  The church doesn't like women showing their knees so everything is long.  The church doesn't like women wearing pants, so dresses are worn (long dresses).

I'm trying to talk her into skirts with blouses/jackets/vests.  Not sure where that will go.    She's getting to the point where she figures if she's with me everything is alright because I've got my pistol.

I'm hoping the smaller/lighter pistol will get her interest up and we'll start looking for a good holster, or two.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 09:27:37 AM »
The Shield is a great weapon. Smaller guns are just harder to shoot. I would be the low shooting at first was her anticipating the recoil. It just happens. I think you made a great choice with the Shield.

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 09:31:05 PM »
 The Shield line may just be the best all around concealed carry platform for the money. I've carried my Shield 45 longer than any other pistol.

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2019, 07:28:19 AM »
My nephew has an XDS in .45 acp he says he bought for his wife.  You know how that worked out.  Now it's his pistol.  He took it to the range once and we shot it.  It's okay, but it's one of those pistols that you don't shoot for fun.  If it shot better groups, maybe (I do like shooting my 4" M29 S&W, but it shoots nice groups and has a very nice trigger).  Maybe the M&P feels/shoots better than that XDS.

For my part, the Shield is good - for her.  I'll keep carrying my P07 or my P01.  Weight is not a thing for me.  Reliability and group size is where a pistol gets my attention.  And round count/capacity doesn't hurt either.....

But I will be shooting her pistol more in the next few weeks/months.  Gotta shoot it enough to make sure it's reliable.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 10:43:37 AM »
The Shield is decent. Especially for the price.
I have to admit, the hammer on that 75B .40 is downright sexy.
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Re: Range day, 4/25/19 - me and my wife with two pistols
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2019, 12:22:16 PM »
The Shield is decent. Especially for the price.
I have to admit, the hammer on that 75B .40 is downright sexy.

My first metal frame CZ is a Pre B CZ85.  The spur made it that much more like my Colt 1911's.

When I bought my second (actually 3rd, but that's another story) metal framed CZ it was a CZ75 Compact.  I converted it to ambidextrous safeties, spur hammer and ambidextrous slide release levers, like my Pre B CZ85.  I really like that little Compact.  The CZ75B in .40 came with ambidextrous thumb safeties (which is the hardest/most work to convert a single left side safety to ambidextrous safeties) so it was already about half way to being a CZ85 clone.  The spur hammer and the set of CZ85 slide release levers and some drill press, chamfering work and it was ready to go.

After shooting it I'm even happier with it.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?