75b carry condition 1 or 2

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I am with you on the B safety being too loose -  a tad disconcerting.  The PreBs are much more secure.  You CAN buy extra powered safety detent springs, but I don't have the link right now.

Dropping the hammer without igniting the primer (the desired endstate) is not as hard as some say.  MANY reviewers tell you that it is somehow inherently dangerous.  I think it can be done much safer than sticking a gun in your pants where you can blow off your nuts and blow out your artery with one mistake in 1000. 

Just ignore ANY instruction to pinch the hammer - this CAN be dangerous.  Instead BLOCK the hammer with your offhand thumb, remove your finger from the trigger, and then roll your thumb off the firing pin channel.  Its simple and safe.  Remember, once your finger is off the trigger, it is impossible for the gun to discharge because of the FPB and half cock.  With the B you are even more safe. 

When I practice with my DA/SAs I do most of my shooting in DA.  It can be VERY accurate - just as much as a SA.  I have no trouble letting the hammer down.  Also - the first rule is that the gun is oriented on the target. 

Block - never pinch.

You decock your way I'll do it mine. Hey maybe this is why you're always breaking trs???

[briang2ad]

You decock your way I'll do it mine. Hey maybe this is why you're always breaking trs???

Fair para, fair!    Maybe you're right!  I just believe its more 'fool proof' to block, and I counsel folks that way who ask.  You obviously operate safely by pinching, so I'll defer to the individual on what works.  I saw a video a whjile ago on blocking, and I found it pretty handy.  With a spur hammer pinching is easier. 

[Gunnerdad80]

Si Vis and Briang2ad, do I see a bromance brewing? Get a room you two. 

I’m kiddin of course. 

[briang2ad]

Actually I could be wrong - I think Para lets it down with the shooting thumb... not the pinch.

[fr3db3ar]

Everybody should carry in a way that makes them comfortable.  I carry regularly condition 1 safety off.

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[briang2ad]

Everybody should carry in a way that makes them comfortable.  I carry regularly condition 1 safety off.

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Condition 1 safety off is not condition 1 - it is condition 0.  For the sake of any new gun owners, it is idiotic to carry in condition 0.  If you must do this, stay away from other people entirely. 

We may indeed be in the post rational age, but just because we are doesn't mean turning your brain off is as good as leaving it engaged. 

[Captain Paul]

I used to carry a Sig P938 SA with ambidextrous safety. Several times at the end of the night I found the safety had been pushed off. Really bothered me. I traded it for a P365 which I love. Also got a P01 decocker which I sent to be Cajunized. I wouldn’t carry any gun in condition one with an ambidextrous safety and if you want to carry condition two, a decocker is awesome.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I used to carry a Sig P938 SA with ambidextrous safety. Several times at the end of the night I found the safety had been pushed off. Really bothered me. I traded it for a P365 which I love. Also got a P01 decocker which I sent to be Cajunized. I wouldn’t carry any gun in condition one with an ambidextrous safety and if you want to carry condition two, a decocker is awesome.

If the safety was coming off then I'd look at what was causing this to happen. Was the safety too loose on the gun or was it the method of carry? Where you carried on your person or the type of holster? I had some of the small Sig P-guns like that and never had a safety disturbed the way you described. I've carried many guns cond.1 with ambi safeties and not had any issues.

[Captain Paul]

What caused it to happen was there is nothing blocking the safety to keep it from getting pushed off. IWB 3:30 or 4:00. Perhaps you are not as active with this type of carry. One time I think it was probably due to crawling back and forth on my back under my vehicle changing oil. Another might have been squeezing around trying to fit inside the console of my little boat to do some wiring. Just normal day to day stuff. I haven’t seen any nor have I really been interested in a holster that covered the entire outside of the gun. If the safety is exposed there is nothing to keep it from getting pushed off regardless of whether it has happened to you or not.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

What caused it to happen was there is nothing blocking the safety to keep it from getting pushed off. IWB 3:30 or 4:00. Perhaps you are not as active with this type of carry. One time I think it was probably due to crawling back and forth on my back under my vehicle changing oil. Another might have been squeezing around trying to fit inside the console of my little boat to do some wiring. Just normal day to day stuff. I haven’t seen any nor have I really been interested in a holster that covered the entire outside of the gun. If the safety is exposed there is nothing to keep it from getting pushed off regardless of whether it has happened to you or not.

I don't carry IWB just OWB at 4-5 only. I'm a retired auto tech but I never carried when I was working full time nor do I carry when I'm doing such activities now. Trying to protect a gun I'm wearing and concentrate on the job at hand makes no sense at all not to mention the potential to damage a vehicle scuffing a gun across a fender and such regardless of the type of safety on the gun. You do as you please but I know there are times when I just don't need that gun in my way.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but simply put it's not the ambi safety that's unsafe it's your own handling/carrying method that needs examination.
Something else to note is the ambi safety on the P938 can be converted to left side only by ordering the single side safety lever and hammer pin for a P238.They drop right in.

[Captain Paul]

The ambi safety was the part getting pushed off. Without it the safety would have remained on. You are correct. For me carrying with an ambi safety needed examination. And that was my point. I determined the problem and fixed it. My handling / carrying method is fine. My 365 does not have any issues.

[tpelle]

I carry my CZ 75B in Condition 2, with the hammer lowered to the half-cock position.

I lower the hammer by hooking my strong side thumb over the top of the hammer, with the end of my thumb between the hammer and the rear of the slide.  I pull the trigger and carefully lower the hammer until my thumb touches the rear of the slide, then I release the trigger, which activates the firing pin black, and lower the hammer the rest of the way into the half-cock notch.

This is a very similar technique to how you handle a traditional action single action revolver if you carry it with the hammer down on an empty chamber and then cock it in preparation to taking a shot.  If you then decide to NOT take the shot and wish to lower the hammer to allow for re-holstering, you control the hammer with your thumb while pulling the trigger, lower the hammer past half-cock until you feel the bolt leg slide past the hammer cam, then release the trigger and continue to lower the hammer to the safety notch.  Then you draw the hammer back to half cock, rotate the cylinder through four clicks, cock the hammer again and lower it all the way while holding the trigger, which (if you did it correctly), lets you lower it down on the empty chamber again.