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Offline PilatusTurbo

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2018 P-10C FDE Question
« on: November 28, 2021, 02:33:18 PM »
TL;DR:  Are the P-10C 15 round mags really stiff when fully loaded to 15, requiring a heavy smack to get to seat when still pretty low round count?  Is this damaging to the ejector, which mine is bent up, like many others I can see from Googling.

I'll preface this by stating I'm well acquainted with firearms, and do a lot of my own work--no I'm not a bubba or WECSOG guy.  The P-10C is just a brand new system to me, so I'm learning.  I've done the sear cage/sear spring and spring kits on my P-01 and SP-01 Tac without issue, so I'm not by any means bad at this stuff.

So, I got the P-10C FDE in a trade, and just went and ran 400 rounds through it yesterday.  She's a shooter, and zero malfunctions.  Love the gun.  Previous owner stated he had around 600 through it, trouble free.  Aside of the stiff ambi mag release, I love it.  I know APEX Makes one and you can smooth it out, but it's fine.

My question is about the ejector.  I've been Googling away, and found this thread: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=108057.45

Among that thread and many other sources, it seems normal that the ejector is bent upwards a bit.  I'm just concerned about smacking fully loaded mags in, and some people having had the ejectors snap off.  My magazines are very stiff, like P365 10 round mags when brand new.  STIFF.  15 rounds loaded into the mags requires a good smack to seat.  The top round is barely contacting the ejector, and the slide is taking most of the brunt of the impact, but still concerns me.  Was that just a bad batch of Part #5 ejectors?  Or is this still a possible problem?

These magazines are a 10 round state compliant gun that had the indentation milled out of them.  However, that is not presenting a problem.  The followers and springs are moving freely, and I did check the 10 round mag springs for coil count and form vs. the normal 15 round mag springs.  Aside of having a true 15 round magazine spring to check wire thickness with my calipers, they're exactly the same springs in both 10 and 15 round mags, and again I sent 400 rounds yesterday without a burp.  I don't think it's a difference in the mags.

Thanks for reading.  If pics are required, I can upload one, but it's a very light upwards bend.  I just want to know if this was an issue that was fixed, or if it's still a possible break.  I did not see any stress cracks, and I know MIM parts are actually pretty dang tough these days, but still curious.  The gun did run 400 rounds yesterday for me, really well, including some JHP defensive loads I prefer.  I want to get this into my HD role and throw the TLR-7A  on it, but Don't need an ejector snapping off anytime soon.

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Offline seebee62

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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2021, 06:26:28 PM »
I’ve got a 2018 FDE P10 C with probably 2500 rounds through it. Never a issue. I did change out the mag release for the Apex. No issues with the ejector. I usually carry it in the winter but now I’m carrying a P-01. But when I shoot the P01 at the range I’ll carry the P10.


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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2021, 06:43:45 PM »
I appreciate the info.  Yeah, it seems like a phenomenal gun.  I definitely also love my P-01, that gun is wicked.

This is what mine is looking like, and I'm just trying to ensure mine is on the up and up. 


Inserting those full mags requires a good smack.  Again, not abnormal for guns with decent mags to require a good hit, especially when new, but I was just concerned with actually having seen some broken ejectors, on this forum and other locations.  Not many, but more than one or two.  The rim of the top round and back of the mag itself are contacting the ejector if smacked like I'm inserting it with 15 rounds, but I figure the round stripped on the bottom of the slide and the slide itself is bearing most of the impact?  I won't go filing or tapping on the ejector with a hammer.  It's not broken... 

Feels kinda funny to feel like an obsessive new gun owner, Who doesn't know what they're doing, years later.  ::)  I'm usually one of the guys responding with go out and shoot it, if it doesn't give you a problem then move on with life.  It did run beautifully yesterday.  I like it a lot more than I did my Gen 3 G19.

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2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2021, 06:47:25 PM »
I’ll have to take a look at my ejector to see if it looks similar.


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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2021, 06:58:43 PM »
You're the best man, Thanks! That'll help me see if yours looks similar or maybe even a little more bent, but it's still working just fine as it progresses in round count. 

Also, do your 15 rounders still take a good smack to seat them, after all those rounds?  I have the ambi mag release, as mentioned.

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2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2021, 07:42:52 PM »
Here’s my ejector compared to yours. They look similar in my opinion. My pic maybe at a slightly lower angle. Like I said I’ve had no issue at all with mine. Shot many brands of 9mm to numerous to mention.









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Offline PilatusTurbo

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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 08:25:27 PM »
Cool, thanks man.  I looked at how the mag interacts with the frame and slide some more.  The stripper on the bottom of the slide is making contact with the actual projectile ahead of the case, way before this itself would.  I believe most of the stresses are impacting the slide, and not as much the ejector itself.  Regardless, I love the gun quite a bit, so that's probably where my concern is coming from. 

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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2021, 01:04:42 PM »
Called CZ USA for fun,and the gentleman who answered knew exactly what I was referring to.   Excellent to get a knowledgeable rep. He said the slight upwards bend is perfectly healthy, and informed me I could buy one since it's not a warranty issue yet, but mentioned the new one will look the same. Same without the bit of wear on the top and sides.
He also confirmed that the top round is what is taking the force and the ejector should be fine. Mentioned the still very stiff springs, and it wasn't of concern for him. 

He also let me know, if it does actually break, call and they'd send one out. I only waited seconds before the call got answered, and that's a first for any gun company. Color me impressed.

Offline haroldg48

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Re: 2018 P-10C FDE Question
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2021, 03:58:54 PM »
PilatusTurbo-- It is really good to hear that about CZ's responsiveness.  I never expect a problem , but appreciate hearing how good they are!