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Offline parastoo

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7SB CGW Short Reset System confusion & questions
« on: November 03, 2022, 09:34:25 PM »
This question concerns the CGW "Curved Single Action Trigger" for the 75B, found here:
https://cajungunworks.com/product/curved-single-action-only-trigger-2/

Hi,
If you remove the FPB in a 75b do you accomplish the same thing that the SRS does? I took mine out. And how does this particular CGW curved single action trigger work if you don't have the SRS, but have removed the FPB?

On their web page CGW says only this....
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NOTE:  This is a conversion, which means it will delete the DA feature once installed.  For use in standard/classic lock work manual safety CZ’s only.  Not for use in any CZ decocker pistol, does not work in the Omega P-01/75B, or P-07/09. Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset. We also recommend removing the disconnector when converting from double action.

This part being the curved single action trigger.

Thanks,
            Mark


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« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 09:20:53 AM by Wobbly »

Offline Tok36

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Hi,
     If you remove the fpb in a 75b do you accomplish the same thing that the srs does? I took mine out. And how does the CGW curved single action trigger work if you don't have the srs but have removed the fpb?
I can't figure out how to put in a link.

"Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset. We also recommend removing the disconnector when converting from double action."
       This part being the curved single action trigger.

Thanks,
            Mark

In a CZ 75 variant with a Firing Pin Block, installing the CGW SRS kit reduces the Single Action reset distance by approximately half. Removing the FPB completely, reduces the SA reset distance all the way. The purpose of the SRS kit is to preserve the FPB (drop safety) while reducing the SA reset distance.

Need more context on the Trigger question. Edit: My guess, based off of the information available, is that the SA Trigger in question is designed with a reduced overall travel. Therefor it requires a Short Reset Kit to reduce the overall travel necessary for function. In other words, the design of the Trigger makes it so that it will contact the pistols frame earlier than a factory Trigger would when moving forward towards the SA reset point. So, it is a "short stroke Trigger".
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 12:26:12 AM by Tok36 »
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    I'll try again.
Curved Single Action Only Trigger
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Made in the USA from 6016 aluminum, black anodized, curved single action only trigger with pre-and over-travel adjustment.

All Cajun Gun Works supplied triggers include a 1.5mm allen wrench for your convenience.

We also highly recommend our TRPIN floating trigger pin and RPTRS trigger return spring.

For these models Tac Sport, Tac Sport Orange, Czechmate, please see our 75006 for the correct trigger pin, you will not need to replace the trigger return spring.

NOTE:  This is a conversion, which means it will delete the DA feature once installed.  For use in standard/classic lock work manual safety CZ’s only.  Not for use in any CZ decocker pistol, does not work in the Omega P-01/75B, or P-07/09. Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset. We also recommend removing the disconnector when converting from double action.
   
     It's the 2nd to last sentence.
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Hi,
     If you remove the fpb in a 75b do you accomplish the same thing that the srs does? I took mine out. And how does the CGW curved single action trigger work if you don't have the srs but have removed the fpb?
I can't figure out how to put in a link.

"Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset. We also recommend removing the disconnector when converting from double action."
       This part being the curved single action trigger.

Thanks,
            Mark

In a CZ 75 variant with a Firing Pin Block, installing the CGW SRS kit reduces the Single Action reset distance by approximately half. Removing the FPB completely, reduces the SA reset distance all the way. The purpose of the SRS kit is to preserve the FPB (drop safety) while reducing the SA reset distance.

Need more context on the Trigger question. Edit: My guess, based off of the information available, is that the SA Trigger in question is designed with a reduced overall travel. Therefor it requires a Short Reset Kit to reduce the overall travel necessary for function. In other words, the design of the Trigger makes it so that it will contact the pistols frame earlier than a factory Trigger would when moving forward towards the SA reset point. So, it is a "short stroke Trigger".

Hi,
    If you "reduce the reset distance all the way" than you don't have any reset? Correct?
Mine works. I don't have any problems.
It's the CGW Curved Single Action Trigger I'm referring to.
The reason I'm asking is that I'm thinking of buying a new 75b and changing it to SAO.

Thanks,
            Mark
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 08:17:17 AM by parastoo »

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Hi,
    Sorry about that. I'm a techno idiot. Usually when I want to insert something I can just highlight the URL? and drag and drop it to where I want it. It didn't work this time.
 I'm referring to a 75b and CGW's  Curved single action only trigger and this from the description;

"Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset."

If you've removed the fpb does this still apply?
Thanks,
             Mark

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Sorry about that. I'm a techno idiot. Usually when I want to insert something I can just highlight the URL and drag and drop it to where I want it. It didn't work this time.
Mark -
No worries. I can see that you have a good question, but I can also see that responses were thin, proabably due to lack of understanding. Clarity is king when there are this many sub-forums, hundreds of CZ models to work on, and eight different CGW triggers to fit this model.

Use of 'Drag & Drop' is totally dependent upon the device you are using. I'm on a Windows desktop machine, and it's certainly not viable for me. But to your question, you should be able to COPY the URL from the address bar and PASTE that directly into your text. The CZ Forum software will then display it as a working Link.

However, you never outgrow your need for good old Cut & Paste.  ;D

I'm referring to a 75b and CGW's  Curved single action only trigger and this from the description;

"Installing this part in a firing pin block model (75B, 85B, 97B, RAMI B, SP-01, etc.) without the short reset system may result in a loss of the single action reset."

If you've removed the FPB does this still apply?
Thanks

Ahhh !   This part: https://cajungunworks.com/product/curved-single-action-only-trigger-2/

Much better
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Initial question re-worked and re-worded for clarity.  Other comments dropped.

Hope you get answers that help you.

Thank you.
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Re: 7SB CGW Short Reset System confusion & questions
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2022, 09:32:46 AM »
Hi,
   
"...when there are this many sub-forums, hundreds of CZ models to work on, and eight different CGW triggers to fit this model."
    Yes. You understand why I'm confused;still; after six years.
Thanks,
           Mark
P.S. And I still don't know how to put that in quotes!

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Re: 7SB CGW Short Reset System confusion & questions
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2022, 11:27:28 AM »
P.S. And I still don't know how to put that in quotes!

• The easiest way to put in a quote is to push the Quote button while you are still reading the other person's thread you want to quote. That brings the user name, date and time with it saving you a lot of clarification, as shown above.

At that time you have the option to trim away all the text that does not apply using the DELETE button on your keyboard.

• The second, harder way is to COPY the text, then PASTE it into your thread. Then, while you are still writing and editing your post... SELECT the quoted text, and while that text is highlighted, click on the 14th button (which looks like a cartoon character text bubble). That action will enclose the selected text in quotes. YOU will then be responsible for manually telling others where that quote was taken from.


These are the editing options and buttons displayed with a desktop or laptop computer. They are probably not present when working from your phone. Different brands of phones may even present the same information in vastly different formats. That is a fault of trying to do editing on a device that is by it's nature VERY LIMITING.

If you want to READ text, it's OK to use your phone. But if you want to edit text, insert links, and add graphics using the full power of the forum software, then you need to use a computer.
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Re: 7SB CGW Short Reset System confusion & questions
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2022, 12:41:22 PM »
If you remove the firing pin block plunger and spring, you essentially have a Shadow, it is no longer a "B". To fully benefit from this deletion for SA only, delete the disco and fpb lifter. Add either a Shadow wide sear or a CGW sear spacer to fill the space left from removing the fpb lifter arm. Install a pre/post travel adjustable trigger and you will have the shortest possible trigger pre-travel and reset. If you prefer DA/SA, you would add a disco that is for a Shadow. If you want to use a race or comp hammer you will either need a CGW adjustable sear or fit the safety leg of an oem sear. Hope this helps.