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Offline dabljues

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CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« on: December 03, 2023, 06:31:15 PM »
Hi.

I was installing a new trigger for my CZ P-10F today (only the trigger shoe). When I was putting everything together, I saw that the ejector looks kinda weird.

I didn't have that much time with the gun, so I don't know whether it was like this before or not. Look:





It's kinda bent downward. I've seen images of a broken CZ P-10 ejector on the internet, but in those images it's bent the other way around, upward:



I'm not sure whether in my case it's bent or is it actually how it's supposed to be. I've seen videos of CZ P-10 disassembly and the ejector was straight, but I'm not sure if this is maybe something that changed over the years. My gun is from 2023 production, CZ regularly changes some little stuff in their design without giving the guns the new version, generation etc. I've checked the ejection with dummy rounds, seems to be working.

So, do you guys know whether maybe on the newer (2023) CZ P-10s that ejector is bent a little downward? Or is this something I did when installing the trigger?

The only time that the sear assembly was under the hammer was when I was putting the new trigger shoe into it, but that's it. I had to hammer the trigger pin down, but it wasn't that much force, I was using a tiny hammer with a nylon tip. And the ejector was never hit directly. All I could imagine is that the ejector could get caught up on the bench block, but it's rubberized and the ejector is steel, so I cannot imagine that could've done it. The gun is new, I didn't have more than like 300 rounds through it. And I would imagine that the "bend from usage" would come in a form of ejector bending up, not down.

Maybe some of you have the new CZ from 2022/2023 and can check? Just an FYI, this is the European version, not CZ-USA.
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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2023, 08:08:15 PM »
I checked BOTH of my P-10F's (9mm and .45 ACP).  The ejector on both of them is perfectly flat--no deflection up or down.
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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2023, 08:57:00 PM »
Hmm, interesting. What year are your CZs from? And CZ-USA or European?

I'm also seeing a flat ejector for all the P-10s I can find on the internet, but I'm wondering if it's maybe a new thing. I read a post on a local forum (basically the same topic, problem with P-10 ejectors) and the guy said that when the gunsmith replaced the sear case assembly (with the ejector) for him, the ejector was bent - and also down, like mine. This was like 3 months ago, so I wondered if CZ now ships this part with "bent" ejector as a feature, not a bug.

If not, then hmm, what could I do? Should I try to straighten it? (I guess with a hammer and a punch) Or buy a whole new one? (40$, which sucks)
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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2023, 05:11:35 AM »
Hmm, interesting. What year are your CZs from? And CZ-USA or European?

Both made in Czech Republic, 9mm in 2018, .45 ACP in 2021.
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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2023, 09:24:07 AM »
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Both made in Czech Republic, 9mm in 2018, .45 ACP in 2021.

Okay, thanks

Got some additional photos with dummy rounds (around 6-7 in the mag):







From what I can see, the ejector does touch the case. But then, the tip's shape (like a half circle) is maybe here to accommodate a round case shape underneath it. I tested it by taking a fresh dummy round (it's bade our of an actual brass case) and just inserting the mag in and out a couple of times. I did it with some force and then I could see little scratches on the case.

Still don't know whether that's how it's supposed to be or not. But hmm, maybe if it's in fact bent, maybe just general use (inserting mags in and out when on the range) will kinda straighten this part after a while. This is what happened to people that had the ejector bent upward. The "cut" in the ejector is supposed to mitigate that AFAIK, but in my case, the tip touches the case. So, well, maybe after some time things will even out? Or, even if it's bent but it works (to be verified on the range, since I don't know whether this is new or it was here when I was at the range last week) - maybe I shouldn't touch it?

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2023, 11:16:28 AM »
Does it work? If it does, don't worry about it. If it doesn't, replace it.
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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2023, 11:21:14 AM »
Works with dummy rounds (ejects them when racking the slide), whether it's working when firing - that's to be verified in a few days, when I'm able to visit a local range.

But it could've been bent like this even before (I didn't strip the pistol to notice) even when I was on the range last week etc., when I shot 200+ rounds with no malfunction, so who knows.

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2023, 04:55:37 PM »
Here are some photos of my P-10F, which runs flawlessly and which probably has 10k rounds through it.  Perhaps these will help. 













I think yours is too low, should be flat I think, not in to the case groove.

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2023, 05:08:06 PM »
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Here are some photos of my P-10F, which runs flawlessly and which probably has 10k rounds through it.  Perhaps these will help.

Yeah, yours is bent up from "normal usage" as people reported. P-10s ejectors have a tendency to bend but up, not down. I cannot find a way that I could bend my ejector like this (I mean down). That's why I'm constantly wondering whether CZ has changed their design (maybe to counteract the ejector bending up) in their new P-10 models or is it just a factory defect.

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2023, 06:42:50 PM »
Bottom: P10c 2020, ~3,000 round count

Top: P10F 2022, 150 round count.

Both are straight.

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2023, 06:10:41 PM »
Yeah, looks like it's not how it's supposed to be. Guess I'll go to the range and see if it works. If not, then new ejector here I come

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2023, 09:29:39 AM »
Well, took too long to visit the range, but I fired like 300+ rounds without any malfunction. Seems to be working, at least for now

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Re: CZ P-10F bent ejector?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2024, 11:42:12 PM »
Another update for people that may struggle with the same issue.

I fired another 1000 rounds from this pistol, not one extraction/feeding issue. I guess it's better to have it bent downward, than upward (cuz it can crack from the mag insertion) :)