Solid Airpistol

[woodchip]

A while back when I first got my ccw permit, I thought about getting a airpistol for practice. There was a umarex co2 that looked and felt like a Beretta 92. Then I read how the front sights were prone to breaking off.
            So mt question is...what would be a good practice pistol that can shoot multiple rounds and has the heft of a cz75 (I'd say a 97b but not many center fire pistols have the same heft)?
            Oh yes...cost IS a factor!
           
           

[Katastrofto]

            Hi there Woodchip!
           
            There are quite a number of airpistols that suits your need.
           
            Anics A3000 Skif
           
            The Anics is a russian made walther-lookalike airpistol that has a 28 shot rotary chain magazine in the handle. The gun shoots everything from pointed pellets to lead BB`s without problems. It has decent MV (sorry cant remember exact but i think it is around 130m/sec) and good build quality.
           
            Now the main drawback of the Anics is its trigger pull. Again i dont know exactly how much it is but i would guess around 2-3kg`s of pull.
           
            The reason for this is that the trigger interacts with the chain magazine, pulling it around for a new shot everytime you push the trigger, therefore it also has a good deal of creep.. The trigger pull can be lightened with some careful oiling of the chain to minimize friction as it goes around..
           
            All in all the Anics is a good practice gun with acceptable accuracy. and you can rattle of the 28 shots as fast as you can pull the trigger. It also has very good open sights.
           
            Its powerplant is standard 12 gram CO2 capsules
           
            www.webcom.com/airguns/Anics.html
           
           
           
            TWINMASTER ACTION/ALLROUNDER/TOP
           
            The twinmasters are german-built C02/PCP target pistols at reasonable cost. they are VERY accurate (7mm groups at 10m from a rest) and Weighs about 950 grams
           
            The twinmasters is based on the revolver principle, you have a 8 shot rotary mag which can be fired SA/DA. It has a walther lothar rifled barrel and can be fitted with weaver/11mm bases for red dots, scopes etc..
           
            The DA mode is allright, nothing more nothing less.. The SA mode is brilliant! you have a trigger with aboslutely no creep that can be adjusted from 500 to about 800grams.
           
            The models exist in both Co2 and PCP (PreCharged Pneumatic) The clever thing with these guns is that if you buy the basic model (Action) which is co2 powerplant, you can "upgrade" it to a "TOP" (PCP) by just buying the accesories needed. They use the same frame, barrel etc..
           
            I own a Twinmaster Action and im very happy with it.
           
            www.brocock.co.uk/twinm.htm
           
           
            Now, there are probably hundreds of airpistols that matches your wishes but these two are the only ones that i can think of right now.. and these two wont cost you a fortune either.
           
            Regards
            KAT
           
             
           

[woodchip]

Thanks Kat,  think I'll look into the "Roosky" Anic. Seems to be better suited for draw and shoot practice.

[sven]

Check out the Beeman P3:
           
           
           
            I couldn't find much information on this gun (or airgunning, in general) on the web, so i started my own page:
           
            www.imageseek.com/beeman_p3
           
            I researched and this gun has been getting rave reviews for it's very nice trigger and accuracy (0.20" at 1 yards).  Design is Glock-like (Polymer), single cock, 410fps... cheap fun!
           
            Check it out and let us know what you settle on!
           
            Best,
           
            -sven
           

[woodchip]

Sven, the Beeman looks and sounds great except I was looking for something that was multiple shot. Something I can practice double and triple taps. It appears the Beeman is single shot. Exceptional accuracy is not required for IDPA style shooting, just cranking out the rounds and hitting center of mass. Thanks for posting it.

[no10X4me]

I have a number of umarex pistols in SIgp225,colt 1911 and found them all satifactory and very close in trigger and weight to the real firearm.  As far as the sights breaking off the sights are replacible.  The accessory rear adjustible sights appear to be firearm sights and the front sights although plastic are also replacible and are included in the accessory sights since they need to be highter to bring impact to point of aim. the Walther cp sport is double action only and cp99 is single action both emulating the walther p99 series.  the cp sport running around $80 and the cp99 around $130 dollars. The walther PPK/s airgun is no longer imported in the us by walther-usa  and is now sold through Crossman. They are going for areound $72.  The ppk/s is a BB only but has a recycling slide and some feeling of recoil about a 1/4 th of a real ppk in 32acp or 380 and will cycle about as fast or fast for double taps gets 60-80 shots on a cartridge and even disassembles like real firearm.  with is close withing a fraction of ounce. pistol is single action only and is mostly metal. Sometimes it is better to practice with an airgun far removed from your carry ccw pistol. And practice with the same loads as you will carry.  The airguns are good for teaching sight allignment ,trigger pull follow through but they are not close enought to replace practice with your real firearm. There is muscle memory, recoil, flash and a bang that need to be intimate for the firearm that you carry.  and that should be the one you practice with otherwise you can collect shoot any thing you want if you don't plan on those reflexes for your life or bystanders.  A common question that personal protection and law enforcement instructors  and lawyers ask if you practice with load you normally carry.   I am an NRA instructor but not a law enforcement instructor but that is my advice I give to students taking the personal protection class. I use air guns and 22's in the normal classes and if you are law enforcement then you should see instruction or oppion from your department instructor