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Offline bkd717

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So I have this new pistol. . .
« on: April 06, 2010, 04:21:56 PM »
My Uncle passed away earlier this year, and I have inherited two of his pistols.  One is a well-loved .32 CZ-50 (and if I'm reading the date marks correctly, it looks like it is from 1952,) but the other one I'm really excited about is a never fired, still in the box, still in the plastic, pre-B CZ-75 with a 1986 date stamp on it.  Best of all, it's not an import, as it was purchased at a Rod and Gun club in Germany.  Comes with two magazines, which I'm guessing are 16 round capacity (?,) but maybe someone can clue me in on it.  I haven't done anything with it yet.

Part of me wants to leave it in the condition it is, but most of me can't wait to get it on the range and fire several magazines through it.  What I'm wondering is: those of you pre-B owners, are there any suggestions you can give me before I take it out for a test fire?  Anything I need to look out for that you all have already discovered?  I've already contacted CZ-USA to find out about getting a couple more mags for it.

Also: should I be worried about it not having the firing pin block?  Is that something that I can have a gunsmith add if I'm really going to be shooting it often?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions!  Cheers!

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 09:18:12 AM »
Nice inheritage! The mags should be 15-rounds.

Also: should I be worried about it not having the firing pin block?  Is that something that I can have a gunsmith add if I'm really going to be shooting it often?
Definetly not! Do you need a firing pin block on a original 1911? (Well, some say yes, I say NO!)
And for range use there is absolutely no reason. If you intend to drop it on the hammer, with hammer down on a live round, yes then it might be useful...  ;)

As to shooting it or not, I probably would, but I own guns to use them, not to collect, but perhaps the value is high enough in USA that it's a better idea not to use it. Hopefully someone else can answer that part. :)
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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 12:08:39 PM »
Welcome to the forum! I'd love to see pics of that Pre-b. Original 15 round Pre-b mags are scarce and usually expensive if you find them. Gunbroker is always a good place to start looking. Aftermarket 15 rounders don't work. You've got the 2 that came with it and if you want more to shoot with I would recommend the 18 Round SP01 mags. They are the only currently produced CZ mags that I know of that fit Pre-b pistols. I have one of them and it works great in my 1978 CZ 75. CZ-USA had a good deal on them last time I looked they were $89 for a 3 pack. I believe the hi-cap 30 round mags also work in Pre-Bs.

I agree with Mikke on the firing pin block. I wouldn't let it bother you. If you were going to make it your carry pistol then I could see it being a possible issue.

To shoot or not to shoot.....that is a great question. If I were you I would shoot it. I would shoot it, enjoy it, and take really good care of it. If it were an original short rail (1976-1980) model I would say keep her a virgin safe queen.  ;)

Have fun and post some pics if you can. I'd love to see both of those pistols.

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 08:30:40 PM »
Hello and welcome to the forum.  You have a fine inheritance.  I agree with the two previous posts about the 75, the choice is yours.  Hope you will post photos.

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 09:45:00 PM »
your uncle purchased the gun and chances are didnt have a chance to enjoy/try his purchase.  its too late for him, but not for you.  shoot the gun and enjoy it.  then thank your uncle for buying a gun and passing it onto you.   alot of people him-haw about buying a CZ and never know how good they are.  You have one handed to you, free.  no thinking/decisions envolved. 

btw, the gun was shot at the factory.  so you can have fun too.

just give it a good cleaning and lube since the OEM oils could be congealed.


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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 11:15:04 PM »
btw, the gun was shot at the factory.  so you can have fun too.

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Offline bkd717

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 11:53:13 PM »
Okay, got a hosting site.  Lets see how it works. . .

First off, I apologize for the quality of these pictures.  Off of my iPhone that I love, but I hate the camera.
If these are really, REALLY bad, let me know and I'll try to get some better photos.  I know the camera doesn't capture the
beauty that is the CZ-75.  It really is nice. . .I pulled it out of the plastic and wiped it down before I took the photos.

And, thanks for the kind words.  I really am looking forward to firing these at some point.






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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 08:25:38 AM »
NICE! They're both beautyful. Thanks for the pics.
I predict that your CZ family will grow in the future. They are addictive. You're off to a great start.  ;)

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 03:55:44 AM »
My Uncle passed away earlier this year, and I have inherited two of his pistols.  One is a well-loved .32 CZ-50 (and if I'm reading the date marks correctly, it looks like it is from 1952,) but the other one I'm really excited about is a never fired, still in the box, still in the plastic, pre-B CZ-75 with a 1986 date stamp on it.  Best of all, it's not an import, as it was purchased at a Rod and Gun club in Germany.  Comes with two magazines, which I'm guessing are 16 round capacity (?,) but maybe someone can clue me in on it.  I haven't done anything with it yet.

Part of me wants to leave it in the condition it is, but most of me can't wait to get it on the range and fire several magazines through it.  What I'm wondering is: those of you pre-B owners, are there any suggestions you can give me before I take it out for a test fire?  Anything I need to look out for that you all have already discovered?  I've already contacted CZ-USA to find out about getting a couple more mags for it.

Also: should I be worried about it not having the firing pin block?  Is that something that I can have a gunsmith add if I'm really going to be shooting it often?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions!  Cheers!


The magazines are definitely 15-rounders.  I wouldn't touch a thing before test-firing it a few times with fairly low-powered FMJ ammunition. 

The firing pin block safety was an innovation that made the CZ -75 easier to import under BATF regulations.  It really has no other objective reason to exist.     
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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 07:41:56 AM »
Shoot it or sell it, but please don't hide it in a safe  O0


The firing pin block is a safety related item that was introduced to cover the micro percentage of accidents that is so small....it's not Worth concerning your self about.. You should be more concerned with getting hit by lightening,,TWICE while using the port a poty on your local range.

 I've carried my Pre B since 1985 when I bought it in Germany at a Rod and Gun club, just like your Uncle... The weapon is as safe as the user is.. So be safe.


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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2010, 03:59:52 AM »
My Uncle passed away earlier this year, and I have inherited two of his pistols.  One is a well-loved .32 CZ-50 (and if I'm reading the date marks correctly, it looks like it is from 1952,) but the other one I'm really excited about is a never fired, still in the box, still in the plastic, pre-B CZ-75 with a 1986 date stamp on it.  Best of all, it's not an import, as it was purchased at a Rod and Gun club in Germany.  Comes with two magazines, which I'm guessing are 16 round capacity (?,) but maybe someone can clue me in on it.  I haven't done anything with it yet.

Part of me wants to leave it in the condition it is, but most of me can't wait to get it on the range and fire several magazines through it.  What I'm wondering is: those of you pre-B owners, are there any suggestions you can give me before I take it out for a test fire?  Anything I need to look out for that you all have already discovered?  I've already contacted CZ-USA to find out about getting a couple more mags for it.

Also: should I be worried about it not having the firing pin block?  Is that something that I can have a gunsmith add if I'm really going to be shooting it often?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions!  Cheers!

If you shoot them, they will need new recoil springs fairly soon.  Eastern European gunsprings are fairly weak as a group.  Otherwise, shoot away...  As someone else mentioned, there is no such animal as an "unfired" CZ-75.  They are all test-fired at UB. 
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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 01:26:23 PM »
Thanks for all of the comments and remarks!  Getting ready to head to the range this weekend (fingers crossed) with a cop friend of mine to put some rounds through the 75.  Stripped it and did a good cleaning and oiling.

Question:  Where would be the best place to look for replacement springs (as was mentioned?)

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Re: So I have this new pistol. . .
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 10:11:16 PM »
Thanks for all of the comments and remarks!  Getting ready to head to the range this weekend (fingers crossed) with a cop friend of mine to put some rounds through the 75.  Stripped it and did a good cleaning and oiling.

Question:  Where would be the best place to look for replacement springs (as was mentioned?)

Wolff Gunsprings

http://www.gunsprings.com/
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