Got a CZ52

[oldnoob]

Just paid and DROS this piece few minuets ago. In 10 day, I'll bring it home, clean, lube, shoot and take few pictures.  Here is the seller's picture for now.



I got it for $275, not too great, but my Norinco Tok was long for a friend so I jump on it anyway. Got the original plastic grip and a new in bag Harrington firing pin too.
 
BTW, anyone know if I can find it's date of birth? Serial number is VOZ##.

[Surculus]

Just paid and DROS this piece few minuets ago. In 10 day, I'll bring it home, clean, lube, shoot and take few pictures.  Here is the seller's picture for now.



I got it for $275, not too great, but my Norinco Tok was long for a friend so I jump on it anyway. Got the original plastic grip and a new in bag Harrington firing pin too.
 
BTW, anyone know if I can find it's date of birth? Serial number is VOZ##.

Nice aftermarket grip on that. BTW that & the firing pin, it's almost like you paid $200 for the pistol; not too bad, considering how they've climbed in price since the days when they were $135 at the corner gunshop. Good on ya!

[skucera]

The year of manufacture will be a simple two-digit number stamped on the side, either "52," "53," or "54."  California's ten day waiting period is so annoying.  I hated it when I bought my CZ 52 there back in '96.

Scott

[oldnoob]

The year of manufacture will be a simple two-digit number stamped on the side, either "52," "53," or "54."  California's ten day waiting period is so annoying.  I hated it when I bought my CZ 52 there back in '96.

Scott

Thanks, I actually just that that answered from another forum.  It's interesting the VOZ## is actually the rearsenal year number instead of serial number.

Yes, the 10day cool down jail is annoying. It was a good idea for stopping people do stupid things with gun.  But for people like me who already have tons firearm in my safe, why do I need to have any cool down.  And for ffl dealer need to keep any gun they sold 10 more days in their safe? It's ridiculous. 

[oldnoob]

Just paid and DROS this piece few minuets ago. In 10 day, I'll bring it home, clean, lube, shoot and take few pictures.  Here is the seller's picture for now.



I got it for $275, not too great, but my Norinco Tok was long for a friend so I jump on it anyway. Got the original plastic grip and a new in bag Harrington firing pin too.
 

Nice aftermarket grip on that. BTW that & the firing pin, it's almost like you paid $200 for the pistol; not too bad, considering how they've climbed in price since the days when they were $135 at the corner gunshop. Good on ya!

That's true, I kind of want those upgrade anyway. But initially I thought the buyer was gonna let me have them for $250, but when we met he change the price on me. Uh well, I got sucker in but it's still worth it.

[billjohnso20]

Nice looking '52. I'm hoping to get one in a few months myself but time will tell.

As to the 10 day waiting period in Komifornia as well as cool down periods elsewhere, the tragedy is that there are otherwise intelligent people out there who are witless anti-gunners who honestly believe waiting periods and gun control reduce crime and prevent murders of passion. The reality is, if one is intent on committing a crime, no gun control law or waiting period is going to change or stop that. What's more, anti-gunners actually believe that criminals try to buy guns through legal channels. Bad guys don't go to the local gun shop to get their guns; they go downtown and buy their illegal guns from a guy selling stolen goods out of the trunk of his car. Gun control only hurts the law abiding citizen and the only deaths gun control laws prevent are the deaths of rapists and murders who prey on the people who actually obey the law.

[brigadier]

 Nice gun. You got lucky. Most people who have VZ-52s want to keep them. You are going to have allot of fun with that thing.

Nice looking '52. I'm hoping to get one in a few months myself but time will tell.

As to the 10 day waiting period in Komifornia as well as cool down periods elsewhere, the tragedy is that there are otherwise intelligent people out there who are witless anti-gunners who honestly believe waiting periods and gun control reduce crime and prevent murders of passion. The reality is, if one is intent on committing a crime, no gun control law or waiting period is going to change or stop that. What's more, anti-gunners actually believe that criminals try to buy guns through legal channels. Bad guys don't go to the local gun shop to get their guns; they go downtown and buy their illegal guns from a guy selling stolen goods out of the trunk of his car. Gun control only hurts the law abiding citizen and the only deaths gun control laws prevent are the deaths of rapists and murders who prey on the people who actually obey the law.

 It's kinda funny. At least half the people I know who were hard-core anti gun 6 years ago are now more pro-gun then most people I know who were pro-gun back then. It seams as though the liberals and conservatives are slowly trading places.

 In a nutshell, Bush's invasion of Iraq, the patriot act and various other major bad moves by both the left and right got all the liberals genuinely scared and looking for answers as to what could be done to stop the growing tyranny on both left and right. Then Susan Hupp and Penn and Teller reminded the world that the 2A has nothing to do with blowing Bambi's brains out and everything to do with keeping the government in check.

 Lets just say that tree huggers have a much easier time understanding having an AK47 in your hands when telling the feds to back off then using one to kill Bambi and Thumper. Here in the Sacramento area, I have been having trouble finding anyone who's NOT pro gun.

 The state has pretty much given the people the finger and told them, "we've got your rights and we're keeping them." The conflict between the California citizens and government is now out in the open and clearly obvious. The government has even openly admitted their bad intentions in many cases.

 Anyway, half the people I know who were my political allies 6 years ago are now my political enemies, as they seam to be more on terms with supporting the state, even in their corruption then anyone who is serious about protecting liberty can ever be comfortable with, and people who were preaching socialism and all this greenie stuff back then are now shopping for AK rifles, at least those who aren't already packing.

Also, all the campaign adds I've seen on TV are bagging on each other for not being conservative enough. Never once seen an add for a democrat. I've almost memorized all the stuff the republican candidates are saying about each other on TV, yet I don't even know who's running for the democratic party. Unbelievable!

[oldnoob]

Nice looking '52. I'm hoping to get one in a few months myself but time will tell.

As to the 10 day waiting period in Komifornia as well as cool down periods elsewhere, the tragedy is that there are otherwise intelligent people out there who are witless anti-gunners who honestly believe waiting periods and gun control reduce crime and prevent murders of passion. The reality is, if one is intent on committing a crime, no gun control law or waiting period is going to change or stop that. What's more, anti-gunners actually believe that criminals try to buy guns through legal channels. Bad guys don't go to the local gun shop to get their guns; they go downtown and buy their illegal guns from a guy selling stolen goods out of the trunk of his car. Gun control only hurts the law abiding citizen and the only deaths gun control laws prevent are the deaths of rapists and murders who prey on the people who actually obey the law.

No doubt about that. A criminal won't care about the any gun law because their intention it to break the law.

[skucera]

Folks, let's not hijack this thread.  Perhaps I set the wrong precedent in mentioning California's ten day waiting period, but folks have discussed little else in this thread since that comment of commiseration with Oldnoob.  This forum is about Curio & Relic guns made by CZ, not about politics.  Further comments unrelated to C&R pistols will disappear... poof. 

Let's stay focused on the pistols....

Scott

[CZ75BRocks]

skucera:  Very well said.  See, this is one reason this Forum is so civilized as opposed to say, The Firing Line.  IN  MY OPINION TFL is one of the most contentious Forums period.  Skucera, thanks for the "reality check". 

[josey88]

I think that it is true that lots of people  once they try the CZ-52 , will want to keep them .   The caliber is hot , very powerful, it is cheap as hell , and ,  in my case , I find these pistols very accurate and fun to shoot .  For sure that every time I go to the range and start shooting one of my two 52s, everybody comes by to check out what is it that I am shooting....   besides, parts are still abundant . Mine are completely rebuilt and upgraded , so, as far as I can see ,  I will keep them forever.

[Dan K. Evans]

I have a CZ 52 and TT33 both of which fire the 7.65 x 25 round.  Somewhere on this site someone suggested that both of these guns can fire the .38 cal. without any modifications.  Now I am unable to find the post. This does not seem correct. Comments. Dan 

[oldnoob]

Folks, let's not hijack this thread.  Perhaps I set the wrong precedent in mentioning California's ten day waiting period, but folks have discussed little else in this thread since that comment of commiseration with Oldnoob.  This forum is about Curio & Relic guns made by CZ, not about politics.  Further comments unrelated to C&R pistols will disappear... poof. 

Let's stay focused on the pistols....

Scott

Good point. Focus, 5 more days to go til I bring this baby back.

[oldnoob]

I have a CZ 52 and TT33 both of which fire the 7.65 x 25 round.  Somewhere on this site someone suggested that both of these guns can fire the .38 cal. without any modifications.  Now I am unable to find the post. This does not seem correct. Comments. Dan 

It could not be unmodified.  not only barrels are not the same caliber (7.62mm vs ~9mm), either CZ52 nor the TT33's magazine won't even fit the 38sp (the rim is too wide).  Anyhow I don't see any reason to shoot 38sp out of CZ or Tok.  The 9mm conversion is easy and available (more so to Tok than CZ). And surplus 7.62x25 still the cheapest center fire ammo out there.

[brigadier]

Though I do not know for sure, it MAY be possible to make a CZ-52 work in .38 Super. I am not sure if this has ever been done though.

Max .38 Super loads produce around 500fpe and a max chamber pressure of 36,500psi, while the CZ-52 can handle 7.62x25 loads up to almost 600fpe and around 40,000psi provided the slide, barrel and frame are in good condition.

.38 Super has roughly the same diameter case as the 7.62x25 and is just a tiny bit shorter.

7.62x25 is cheaper, easier to come by and in some ways, more powerful, so why bother? As much as I like the .38 Super, in my mind, it doesn't really fill much, if any gap between the 7.62x25 and 10mm Auto.

.38 Special is a joke for it's size. if you're going to go that rout, get a .357 Magnum. If you need a semi-auto, get a 10mm. If you did nothing but buy a CZ-52 and have a .38 Super barrel made for it, a brand new Glock 20 would probably cost you the same or less.

 Double Tap makes a 135gr JHP in 10mm that shoots at 1600fps out of a standard Glock 20. It's going to be tough to push anything that fast out of a CZ-52, even in 7.62x25. I keep some of those loads in my Beretta and shoot them when I go to the range. Picture someone walking up to the booth next to you, drawing a Beretta 96 and producing a big "Dirty Harry" bang out of it. Picture a regular old Glock acting like Dirty Harry's gun.

 You can also see for yourself. A video taken during the Beretta's testing. Second shot was the DT load:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NoanE9q-o