Witness Slides/Conversion Kits

[ChirpinSquirrel]

Howdy, brand new I am  . I've been wondering if the slides EAA has on it's website and/or elsewhere are the new rounded slides or the older more square style. It looks like both the conversion kit and the spare slides are the older variety. I want to get the old style because I've heard it has less issues with cracking and is more aesthetically appealing than the rounded. I'm stumped since it doesn't make sense as to why they would sell the older style.
Also, what is the difference between the supersights and do they make supersight models in 10mm?

Any help is very appreciated.

[DenStinett]

You know, it?s funny
I?ve asked these exact questions myself
I?ve e-mail them with these questions and have gotten no reply
The only place you?re going to get the best answer is to ask EAA themselves?BY PHONE
I?ve been told to call them and ask for Kristy?Personally
I?ve heard, compared to the other agents, she really knows her stuff
Hope this helps
Shoot safe, Den S

[notjustanothermini]

if christy is the girl in the eaa ads, i will call and ask for her personally too, and then maybe take her out to go shooting and then diner and a movie.lol

[jwc007]

if christy is the girl in the eaa ads, i will call and ask for her personally too, and then maybe take her out to go shooting and then diner and a movie.lol

Nope!  That's not her.

[notjustanothermini]

if christy is the girl in the eaa ads, i will call and ask for her personally too, and then maybe take her out to go shooting and then diner and a movie.lol

Nope!  That's not her.


RATS!!

the girl in the advert. is......very pretty, hot body, nice legs and a soft face like a 16 year old parochial school student.  very sexy lady indeed.

you need to call em, i was today about that very question, but it was after 4pm when i remembered.  FWIW you CAN buy just a elite stock or any of the "elite" slides seperately and they are of the squared off style.

there is the stlye thats squared off ive seen that have a "hi-ppower" style bevel on the front of the slide near the muzzle. and there are the wierd looking ones that are squared off, and look like a 1911 slide alot.

i know why you are asking, and i was in the same boat as you......you are worried about breakage,no? and you were going to buy a conversion down the road any way, and then you read the "bad" threads, and now you NEED to get one bad, like you cant sleep good until you get one right??

dont fret since i have first read the "bad" threads, or thread. i was in the same boat as i said. but after i callmed down a bit i searched the net high and low for 3 days straight up til 5am each day. all the fails were with moslty 10mm monderfinish guns, cuzz they are bunches more abundant than blue slide 10mm steel. so people naturally think it has something to do with the wonder finish being "too hard" for it own good, etc. oh yeah and one case of a .40 doing it,,,,,, ONE CASE.

please if this is why you need to get a conversion slide, save you money if you are only trying to get a "good" slide, as all the slides are good.

what is the problem is this; the 10mm is a beast, even with its attenuated factory loadings it is still a hard hittng high pressure round, like a .40+P+ and then some. the spring setup is not able to dampen enough, and at the fullest point reaward in the slides travel there is a point were the spring turns "solid" and bottoms out the frame to slide. 

you just need to be able to dampen the blow, with suck an upgrade as an XP eaa witness full size recoil managment kit, it includes 16,18,20,& 22 lbs. recoil springs, a good stiff spring for any caliber you can convert it too, and they also throw in 3 hammer springs too.

or you could get a sprico recoil reducings guid rod (you can change the main recoil spring, to match the loads/caliber, but not the secondary spring. and these are the cat meow,

hennings also offer a "cone fit" guide rod for 45 buck and you can use buffertech buffer with them and these guide rods WILL MAKE THE BUFFERS LAST.

i was going to buy a spirnco last night along with my wolf XP recoil spring kit, but i got he hennins to run with a buffer instead, as i thought the sprinco setup was totally captive, like a subcompact glock,taurus,sr40 setup. and that would of meant that the sprinco setup would only work for the caliber i specify........well i talked the the sprinco guy today and only the seconday dampening spring is captive I.E.---> you can change the main recoil spring to suit you particulare caliber conversion. you may have to take the seconday out and change it if shooitn 9mm or what ever, but you get the point right.

last night i spent, 39 dollar (incl. shipping!) for the hennings cone fit rod, and 31 for the wolf XP recoil managment spring kit,for a total of 70 buck. and i can run anything caliber wise with the stuff i got.

even the conversions are under sprung, and they dont have the track record of beating up the guns like the 10mm round does, but they do never the less, just the damage is not aparent as soon as the 500 round mark for the 10mm, thats what ive heard as far as round count goes with the 10mm with the factory spring, but could be cmoke and mirror,

but neverthless, even a top-o-da-line 1911 custom would crack its frame with a grossly underpowered recoil spring. so take it for what its worth.

and with the spring kits you can be sound in your mind that your gun will function till you die.

[ChirpinSquirrel]

Thanks notjustanothermini. That helped a large amount. My guess is you hear about so many failures because no one really says anything about the successes or whatnot.
Now you spiked my interest about the cone fit and buffer combo. I'm still going to replace the recoil spring too.

I took my "CF" 10mm out and shot it without any modifications to springs or anything and so far it has functioned flawlessly, whether it be single shots or as fast as i vcan pull the trigger. Wonderful gun so far and it doesn't have as much recoil as everyone talks about.

[bang bang]

Howdy, brand new I am  . I've been wondering if the slides EAA has on it's website and/or elsewhere are the new rounded slides or the older more square style. It looks like both the conversion kit and the spare slides are the older variety. I want to get the old style because I've heard it has less issues with cracking and is more aesthetically appealing than the rounded. I'm stumped since it doesn't make sense as to why they would sell the older style.
Also, what is the difference between the supersights and do they make supersight models in 10mm?

Any help is very appreciated.

is there a reason why you dont call and ask?

[notjustanothermini]

yea, yea, i second you an the "not as much recoil" statement.

in the mail today, i got my XP recoil spring kit from wolf, i put the 22lbs spring in and .......grrr! boy was it hard to get in there at first, and had a hard time racking hte slide, but i managed to.

then i took it downstairs to my "range lane" <-----{Yes i have a indoor shooting range in my basement, i made it, took like 4 months on and off, it is built llke this;  45 foot lane, real walls built around it and linedbetween each stud with old phone books i got from the library on recycle day, i literallly picked up a full size checy 1500 long beds worth, they are all stuffed inbetween the inner and outer drywall. then i have the back wall of the lane, wich is 8 feet wide, lined with 232 layers deep, and 2 layers tall of everlast 80 pound heavy bags. and beyond that wall, which is also the back of the basement, is dirt as it is the outside wall of the basement. and there is a roof on the lane toward the end, for the last 10 or so feet, is 1/4 inch thick plate laying across the width of the "ceiling" of the lane. it has been built for 3 years now and had thousand of rounds shot down there, and all went as i planned it to. never a richochet or anything like that.

sorry, i wanted to let all know that before i go further, as i KNOW i would get flack if i didnt properly explain what i do.

any way i put the 22# recoil spring in and got to shoot my gun for the first time today, i shot 2  boxes full of remingtom UMC 180g FMJ's. and a mag full (15 round) of double tap 180g HP's.

well the first shot i took, i noticed after i watched the vid, (i record to video all or most of the shooting that takes place in the basement lane) the first shot i actually closed my eyes in anticipation of recoil, after i got the shot off i looked at the gun like it was  broken, cuzz the recoil WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE to being like a compact 9mm with +P's in it.

yeah this platform eats up recoil like a champion. hardly any felt recoil at all, IMHO at least.

the double taps were like shooting a regular fmj .40 sw outta my SR40, and that gun is a real recoil tamer in itself, as it too has a low bore axis, so that says a lot.

all in all, i have no clue, why the recoil of these tanfoglio 10mm is almost "urban legend" like, as the internet report of 10mm recoil had me anticipating a 12 guage blast. and  it was barely a full house 9mm. in a poly frame subcompact.

needless to say, it is now my most favorite of favorites, and i cant wait to get it to a real outdorr range to play some cowboy games with.hehe.

as far as slides go, i spoke to eaa today, and asked the same question, and they said yes it is the squared off style slides, but they also said theyd sell me any slide i wanted, that they have on hand.

so yes, you can put your mind at ease, but i really dont see the "cracking" issues people report with these guns, i think honestly, it was something weird the slide cracking victims did, such as really hot reloads, or god know what.

but yeah, my favorite for sure now is this gun. it was even before i shot it, but now it is set in stone.