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Offline boatnut

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converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« on: January 05, 2012, 01:36:25 PM »
Howdy,
My gun came with 2- 10 round mags.   I noticed an indentation on either side towards the bottom that makes them only capable of 10 rounds.  Is there an easy method to remove the indentation and convert to 14 round?

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 01:50:57 PM »
I've thought about doing that myself and came to the conclusion that it's just not possible.  The easiest way into 14 round mags is to buy them and keep the 10 rounders for any time you are in an environment that does not allow higher capacity mags.  I had a Bersa 9mm that came with 10 round mags and with the factory 13 round mags going for $45 each, converting would have been great.  The only realistic way I could think of to do it would be to find a compatible used, poor condition mag from a different gun, then swap internals and modify the shell.  Still, way to much effort to save the money on a new 14 round mag.

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 11:03:36 PM »
You can buy 14 Rd MecGar's for less than $20 each and sell the 10 Rd ones for close to that. Ten round magazines are much harder to find at reasonable prices than 14 rounders.

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 09:01:51 AM »
You can buy 14 Rd MecGar's for less than $20 each and sell the 10 Rd ones for close to that. Ten round magazines are much harder to find at reasonable prices than 14 rounders.

Joe

Joe, got a source for those 14 rounders at that price?
thanks!
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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 09:19:09 AM »
Look here for 14 rd mags. under $20.

http://gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=97_130

Quote from Greg Cote's site:

"Mec-Gar is proud to be the Original Equipment Manufacturer of magazines to most of the prominent firearm manufacturers for the last 40 years including: AMT Armscor Astra Beretta Bernadelli FN Browning Bul Charles Daly Colt CZ Girsan IMI Kel-Tec Kimber Llama North American Arms Remington Ruger Sarsilmaz Sig Sauer Smith&Wesson Springfield Armory STI Standard Arms Star Steyr Tanfoglio Taurus Tisas and Walther."

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 02:39:01 PM »
PLUS....
If you live in a State that limits the capacity of your magazines (to ten), than being caught with a modified (for hi-cap) magazine (in most cases) the penalties are harsher than just being caught with a hi-cap magazine
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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 01:25:57 PM »
Yes, in Cali it's a potential felony if you didn't pre-own them before the cutoff date. Still legal to purchase rebuild kits for mags you already owned. For further info on California related laws & codes:

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Large-capacity_magazine_restrictions

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=330976

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 05:32:28 AM »
possibly, if the extended base pad for the 75 also fits the 75C it would give you +4 rds, but each one is 38.00 and you need a +10 spring for each mag you do it to is another 10.00 I just ordered a 14+1 and may try this on that

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 06:06:34 AM »
Howdy,
My gun came with 2- 10 round mags.   I noticed an indentation on either side towards the bottom that makes them only capable of 10 rounds.  Is there an easy method to remove the indentation and convert to 14 round?
Yes, but it depends on the design.

I have one 10 rounder that I obtained back during that stupid, misguided magazine ban period.  It had the indentations. After the ban, I "fixed" the magazine with some judicious milling.  However, I did have problems with it occasionally.  I cannibalized it when I found a magazine body.

Some of them had the indents and cuts so that if you tried what I did, your magazine body would separate into two pieces.
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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 01:16:56 PM »
It is my understanding that it is a federal offense to modify a 10 round magazine made during the ban. Just buy the real thing from MecGar.

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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 03:58:30 PM »
CG, you need to go and read the law for yourself.

By modifying a magazine during the ban, you are "manufacturing" a new magazine to hold more than 10 rounds - an activity that was specifically prohibited under the ban.  Now that the ban is repealed, that activity is no longer prohibited.  I know that you feds hate to give up power over us serfs, but sometimes you are forced to.  ;)
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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 11:16:10 AM »
For anybody from California reading this thread I very strongly urge you to read all related info at page links I posted above for Calguns forum. The legal information there is from lawyers and legal activists in the CA system and Calguns Foundation, a legal defense organization. Even there you'll find misinformation in forum member posts but the lawyers that actually know the law straighten it out.

These are felony issues that could potentially cause long incarceration in jail & state prison, large $1,000's in legal fees, permanent loss of rights to gun ownership and a record that will follow you for the rest of your life.

The only way that any magazine capacity larger than 10 rounds is legal in CA is if you owned it/them before the AWB Assault Weapons Ban of the year 2000, that is the one & only legal way.

Anything else of modifying, purchasing higher capacity, purchasing higher capacity parts kits to modify existing mags or anything else is illegal, a felony. We all know it's lame-brained but it is the law, period. AWB repeal has no effect on CA 'High Capacity Magazine Ban'.

Offline Sheik Yerbouti

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2012, 03:51:26 PM »
Spirit, the same is probably true for New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois.  We probably need to get the appropriate links and make a sticky.

Note that these are state laws and not federal. For the free states, there is no capacity ban.
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Re: converting 10 rnd mags to 14?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 01:35:15 AM »
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Spirit, the same is probably true for New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois.  We probably need to get the appropriate links and make a sticky.

Note that these are state laws and not federal. For the free states, there is no capacity ban.
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Agreed!

The problem at Calguns forum is in figuring out who actually knows for sure what they're talking about. Like any other internet forum guys will post up stuff very authoritatively, clearly implying they are speaking from absolute fact and deep inside knowledge of some kind. Unfortunately that may not be true, in the extreme!

Ths stickies there regarding California Law are pretty clear. If it's posted by a Moderator or HoffmanG or Librarian you can take it to the bank.