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Offline Airacuda

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1st time shooting impressions
« on: February 08, 2014, 08:27:23 PM »
Took my VZ to work but didn't get to shoot till the end of the day at 6pm. Sights were pretty close at 25 yards only an inch off to the right. I was able to hit steel silhouette at 200yards in very low light and with 52 yr old eyes. I'll adjust them later. I fired a full 30 thru every one of the 5 mags practicing 2,3, round rapid firing. This is difficult....not as fast as an AK style trigger at all. When I got home I bent one of the trigger springs down and out of the way to reduce trigger pull and will see what I can do later to shorten reset. That took 2 lbs off the trigger pull, best guess.
  The beaver barf guards get really hot fast just as I read. Had to hold the mag after 70 rounds though it. Very happy with the feel and recoil of it. Once I get my Vortex sparc on it I can see how she groups. For $520.00 shipped It's a winner.

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 12:55:28 AM »
Good to hear she is treating you well - congrats on the new purchase! I am interested in bending one of my trigger springs. Any tips on doing that?

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 02:21:47 AM »
This is the new production trigger feather mechanism:


This is the surplus, from full auto, one in the vz58:


The solo tail (one going in a direction by itself) goes to the rear and what prevents the cover pin from being removed. 

On the front side, looking from rear, you should be able to bend down either w/ the Century VZ2008 which uses the wide sear.  The CSA/CzechPoint model uses the factory left sear only and that's why it's the one they keep.  Point being, the rifle was only intended to need one, not both, of those feather springs to function.

A full auto example.  Forward was full auto and rear was semi auto, each using a different sear.


Or a video if you prefer:
http://youtu.be/oQMh85CnCZE
« Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 04:18:27 PM by RSR »

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 08:07:51 AM »
As posted by RSR I noticed some ZV's only had one spring. Instead of cutting one off, I just used a large screw driver to push the right side spring down where it does not contact the release. I figure that way if it screwed up something I could bend it back. You can pull the trigger repeatedly as you hold the spring down and feel the difference in one and 2 springs before you bend it.

Offline RedState

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 12:11:17 PM »
Congratulations and thanks for the review. I do have a thread going here on VZ58/VZ2008 round counts.
 
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=61164.0

Please feel free to post there. Thanks.

Offline RSR

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 04:18:11 PM »
In this picture from this thread, you can see where one spring was dremeled off, and the larger sear found on VZ 2008s...:



http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=60834.0

Offline cyberjad

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2014, 07:19:55 AM »
Thanks for the picture. Looks like it would be pretty hard to work in there - probably have to pull the spring out to cut it. I'm going to try to bend my and see how that goes. Heavy trigger pull has been one of my only complaints with these rifles.

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 03:44:57 PM »
Removing the sear, the safety, and trigger springs are pretty easy. 

Sear, just remove the eclip first.  Then press out. Safety, push down on trigger spring under it with either that point tool that comes in the VZ58 cleaning kit or a electrical probe tester on that little dot dimple to release pressure and then the safety pulls right out (dot on on long leg near #2 below). 

However, I bent mine down with a screwdriver with it in.  Positioned the screwdriver at spot 1 and hit it with my palm a half dozen times or so -- close to rear, but not so close that you bend the main rear angle on which the spring you're not bending relies...  That moved out of way except for trigger fully squeezed.  Then I moved to spot two just above sear hit it with palm twice and fully disengaged.  No interference on other parts either.  Mine ends up resting on top of my grip screw, so it's probably easiest to bend down w/o grip installed and then reinstall the grip -- unless my Ronin grip screw is taller than factory... 



Showing the angle difference


*I took it out b/c I wanted to bend the intact spring in a little -- it was closer to the edge of the sear than I was happy with.  Normally, gap wouldn't narrow as it comes towards the front/sear like it does in first pic.  Makes it align more like the sear pic above w/ the dremeled spring instead of hanging on the left edge(facing forward) as it sat before I bent.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 08:15:25 PM by RSR »

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Re: 1st time shooting impressions
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2014, 08:16:37 PM »
Actually, the dremeled pic above looks like there's a nut that holds the trigger/sear feather spring in place that's not present of the vz58...