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Offline ncgoober

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Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« on: February 05, 2015, 12:21:27 AM »
Has there been any info from CZ about what they are capable of grinding out this year?
Are we headed for a Keltec sub2000 unobtanium like situation?
Anybody know what their existing A1 production numbers were to get an idea?

Just wondering if I want to jump onto a backorder list at a decent price or wait until later for a native 1/2" thread and the other minor fixes even if its late this year or next.  However if there is a good chance that it will go unobtanium for years then I might move now.

Offline mikec

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2015, 12:35:05 AM »
Call CZ USA and ask, worse case scenario they won't tell you.

You can also ask if they have any verdict back from ATF, or when they expect it?  Weeks, months, years?

Offline RSR

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2015, 06:13:24 PM »
I wouldn't think this would be a similar situation to the Keltec. 

Keltec's issue is that the owners refuse to take on any debt to expand production...  So they have to have the cash on hand before they look at adding any machinery, expansions, etc.  And when you look at timeframes that's a minimum of 6 months to a year behind revenue -- and likely more -- before they can get stuff approved, purchased, permitted, installed, etc, before we see it on the consumer market... 

With CZ, I don't think they'll have manufacturing issues.  The evo from what I can see is relatively cheap to manufacture with parts quickly constructed in bulk w/ the bolt being the only major cnc job.  Labor is cheap there too w/ a lot of experienced folks in manufacturing. 
Where the CZ bottleneck will come is in the import and transit stages working w/ the ATF, EU, State Dept, Czech and US Customs and whoever else regulates/permits/hinders/etc the movement of civilian firearm sales.  Getting them across the pond, not manufacturing, will likely be the biggest impediment...

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2015, 06:26:26 PM »
Actually, I'd say that bottleneck is already passed, with everything approved/permitted, just the permits per shipment. The thing that might delay production is the US Civilian version has to have a redesigned receiver that will not accept the full auto/select fire parts. Since the Scorpion EV) 3 submachinegun is a military and Law Enforcement tool in use with a few countries, those contracts might take precedent for a while. On the other hand, the US market is a huge chunk for CZ-UB, or they wouldn't have taken the time/money to make US compliant firearms, so with the way the Scorpion is taking off, they might decide to ramp up production to match.
If ATFE decides to allow the EVo to SBR as-is, expect production to increase there, as well.

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2015, 07:39:18 PM »
Thanks for the input. 
I think I'm gonna wait for the native 1/2" thread and the SBR story to get worked out. 

Offline Nimdabew

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2015, 12:47:18 AM »
Thanks for the input. 
I think I'm gonna wait for the native 1/2" thread and the SBR story to get worked out.

Do you know where you heard of the 1/2x28 threads? I can't find an official source on those, and until there is a CZ letterhead on the info, I wouldn't trust conjecture and such things. If there is one, I eagerly await that model. A 3 lug adaptor will be one of my first purchases for it after the tax stamp etc.

ETA: The 3 lug would also be a US made part if you shopped around and would meet one piece of the 922 compliance if you needed to comply with it.
snakeye, no worries, I don't need someone in a leotard. :)

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Re: Anybody know about CZ production capability for EVO?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 08:05:08 PM »
I don't know about capability but no one has them in stock