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Offline CZ Taji

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Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« on: September 26, 2014, 10:43:03 AM »
Hi folks,
 well, since it seems my HQL is almost ready to be sent out.  They are just waiting for me to fax my DD 214 . :)

I want to see if the sdp compact owners here are going to represent/have a distinct presence here?
i can't do it alone, and not only that I'm a rookie shooter too  :). it's been 30 yrs.+ since doing I have any shooting.

So calling all SDP COMPACT owners to make themselves known.

1. share your experiences with this pistol. 

2. tell us why you chose this pistol in the first place.

3. How hard is it for you to stop your buddies from bugging you to shoot your gun?

4. Have you done additional modifications to your SDP to personalize it even more ?

anything you folks can think of concerning these pistols and there use please feel free to chime in.
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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2014, 09:14:52 PM »
I just bought a new SDP last week.

I went to my local gun store looking to try out a P-01 versus an HK P30, thinking I'd order an SDP if I liked the P-01. I carry AIWB, and I was looking for something a little longer than a G26, lighter and shorter than my steel-frame 1911s, shorter than my full-size plastic wundernines, and (for various reasons) hammer-fired and with a longer trigger pull.

They had an SDP on the rack, and a P30L. (They also had pretty much every other handgun you can think of except a Beretta 92 compact, but that's beside the point.)

I rented a P30L and what I'm told was an SP-01 to try out. (I have some doubts about what I rented: full-size DA/SA, safety, no decocker, two-tone with alloy frame. Looked like this, but apparently such a beast doesn't exist??)

The CZ totally out-shot the P30L. Partly this is because the sights sucked on the HK, but the CZ stock sights were pretty awful, too. Great feel in the hand, evidently excellent mechanical accuracy. The P30 felt great in the hand, and I liked the decocker position and switchgear, but it took perfect focus to get groups twice the size of the CZ's.

Given that the SDP is smaller than the P30, they didn't have the P30 itself in stock (only longslide), and the SDP has a better trigger and sights, I opted for the CZ and walked out $1400 poorer.

I could have bought a stock P-01, but I figured that I'd immediately send it off for a trigger job, some parts changes, the slide to be milled for better sights, and I'd end up with a handgun that isn't warrantied ? this way I have both CZ Custom's warranty and the store's, on a 'stock' pistol that has every customization I'd want.

I immediately took it out to the firing line and put three rounds through the same hole at 25'. This is the same performance I get out of my 5" all-steel Les Baer.

Now I'm waiting for a couple of holsters to show up ? a JM Custom Kydex AIWB, and a Silent Thunder OWB (ships much sooner, and I figured OWB would be worth having for winter).

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2014, 09:18:21 PM »
Now I'm occasionally thinking ?hmmm, a Rami would be a nice addition? and maybe an SP-01 Shadow with a light for home? and??.

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 04:09:10 PM »
wup holygoat,
 congrats dude. that sdp really made you smile didn't it ? glad your happy with it.

Yes, I considered buying a stock gun and then doing upgrades. when i calculated costs that way, it wasn't any way to have a cheaper gun actually. I was a little surprised, but only slightly disjointed.

  I never imagined I'd buy a dream gun that had an under 4" barrel.  :) Then to get a second gun that was not a must have... man how life changes our box of chocolates. I'm 5 days away from pick up @ my ffl for tHe sdp.  I VOWED NOT TO LET ANYONE SHOOT IT UNTIL WE HAVE BONDED PROPERLY.  8)

Thanks for your reply holy goat. I will of course post here when my new dragon sdp gets to be shot.
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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 07:07:51 PM »
Can't find very many posts concerning the CZ 75 P-01 SDP so I thought I'd bump this thread.   I'm a NEW SDP OWNER & am very excited that I may get to go shoot her tomorrow. I will post my "first day at the range" impressions of the SDP.

2014 gun, no NSN but no newer spring either.......just some trivial info in case anyone keeps track of things like that (I do  ;D)

Test target indicates 3.5 lb single action, 9.5 lb double action



« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 01:15:14 AM by QBToo »

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2015, 08:21:38 PM »
I have an SDP and she does run very well. I shoot tighter groups with my SDP than my other CZs, however I guess I would be disappointed if I didn't in that the SDP is the only CZ Custom gun that I own.  One thing I have noticed is that the SDP seems almost too light in the trigger especially when directly compared to my other CZs. This is noticeable every time I shoot my SDP back to back with my stock PCR.  I am now in the habit of taking my SDP or PCR to the range but never both together.  Shooting one throws me off for the other if that makes any sense.

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2015, 08:36:58 PM »
..... One thing I have noticed is that the SDP seems almost too light in the trigger especially when directly compared to my other CZs. This is noticeable every time I shoot my SDP back to back with my stock PCR.  I am now in the habit of taking my SDP or PCR to the range but never both together.  Shooting one throws me off for the other if that makes any sense.

Sure it makes sense.  For lots of reasons, I've cut my handgun collection down to two 9mm handguns and opted to get 2 SDPs because I wanted the same trigger (and weight) and the same sight picture, feel, etc.........I'm trying to standardize the handguns I use for carry and home defense instead of having so many different handguns/triggers/sights and I want to become as proficient as I can with the SDPs so that I develop muscle memory, etc.   

My other guns are rifles (which I never had before) and I'm becoming very fond of shooting those at the range and just practicing/training with my 9mm handguns for defensive purposes.  Oh........I do have a little .22LR handgun just for range use.

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2015, 01:14:00 AM »
Updated with pics of my second P-01 SDP.  2015 gun, NSN# model

Test target indicates 3.5 lb single action, 8.5 lb double action





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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 12:21:41 PM »
..... One thing I have noticed is that the SDP seems almost too light in the trigger especially when directly compared to my other CZs. This is noticeable every time I shoot my SDP back to back with my stock PCR.  I am now in the habit of taking my SDP or PCR to the range but never both together.  Shooting one throws me off for the other if that makes any sense.

Sure it makes sense.  For lots of reasons, I've cut my handgun collection down to two 9mm handguns and opted to get 2 SDPs because I wanted the same trigger (and weight) and the same sight picture, feel, etc.........I'm trying to standardize the handguns I use for carry and home defense instead of having so many different handguns/triggers/sights and I want to become as proficient as I can with the SDPs so that I develop muscle memory, etc.   

My other guns are rifles (which I never had before) and I'm becoming very fond of shooting those at the range and just practicing/training with my 9mm handguns for defensive purposes.  Oh........I do have a little .22LR handgun just for range use.

I have the PO7, as a backup to my SDP, obviously i wanted to spend less and still have a solid alternative.  I have already considered the different sight picture/feel of those to guns compared with each other.

 SDP is Heinie Straight 8 sights of course; while the PO7 has a red fiber optic front sight w/ all black comp rear.

A trigger job was done on the PO7, so it's not stock. I expect the sdp trigger to get better once broken in; but the same should occur with the PO7 too. :) The PO7 has a slightly better trigger feel/pull right now though.

the PO7 trigger pull is listed at/= 3.8 SA, 8.0 DA : target that was shot with real ammo measured a group of approx. 1.5 " vertically x 1" horizontally looks like at least a 6 shot group

the SDP trigger pull is listed at/= 4# SA, 8.8# DA : target that was shot with real ammo measured a group of approx. 1 1/4 vertically x 1" horizontally for a 5 shot group this is a NSN gun btw

both computer generated target hits, are significantly different from actual live shots.
It makes me wonder how accurate/useful the computer generated hits truly are ?

Eric Zinn was the inspector for both pistols; no clue as to the distance target was shot at or the exact type of ammo used.

Do you think i can find out the target distance and the type of ammo used in them for the test ?

I have yet to fire them though. so the actual difference in shooting them i can't say yet.  I will report back once i have something to report .

Hi QBToo,
 
  why do you need two of the same guns though, that's the 1st. time i heard of that. though i can relate if it's solely based on u want identical everything. i assume you want to make sure if something is amiss with be you have the exact duplicate to fall back on.
   
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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2015, 02:02:02 PM »
Hi QBToo,
 
  why do you need two of the same guns though, that's the 1st. time i heard of that. though i can relate if it's solely based on u want identical everything. i assume you want to make sure if something is amiss with be you have the exact duplicate to fall back on.
 

One is my carry gun and one is my backup carry gun.  Both are my house guns (in 2 different areas of my house).  My primary carry gun gets shot at the range, but not much, just for function testing.  My other one gets shot A LOT at the range.  I wanted them to be as identical as possible.  Do I need an identical backup carry gun or identical house guns......nope, I have other handguns/long guns I could use.  I just "like" to have 2 identical guns (same sights, trigger, mags, etc). 

But who the heck am I fooling........I have duplicates of a bunch of my guns (have even had triplicates).  Of course those duplicate guns normally have different optics on them because I don't like having the swap my optics around.

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2015, 03:26:07 PM »
What is the NSN number and why do some have it and some don't?

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2015, 04:03:03 PM »
From the CZUSA website concerning the P-01: "Since the time of its introduction (designed in 2001, NATO-approved in 2003) the production upgrades have been rolled out to most of the CZ 75 family and several new rifle models as well. The 1913 accessory rail easily accepts any of the industry-standard lights and lasers to assist low-light use. After 3 years of some of the most aggressive small arms testing ever, the CZ P-01 won the honor of replacing the CZ 75s previously used by the Czech National Police. Reliability:  The U.S. Army ?Mean Rounds Between Failure? (MRBF) requirement is 495 rounds for 9mm pistols. During testing of the CZ P-01, the average number of stoppages was only 7 per 15,000 rounds fired. This is a .05% failure rate or an MRBF of 2142! For many years, the P-01 carried an NSN engraved on its frame, making it the first NATO-spec pistol ever available to the public. Recently, the factory decided to upgrade the slide stop spring which in turn means the current models may not carry the NSN."

NOTE:  there are various configurations, for example, I have a P-01 without the NSN stamped on it but it does NOT have the upgraded slide stop spring.......so you can't necessarily say your gun has the upgraded slide stop spring just because there is no NSN.  There's an extra little hole in the frame for those P-01s that have the upgraded slide stop.

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 01:40:32 PM »
One year ago, I purchased a P-01, my first CZ and love it. Since then, i have added a PCR, a 75BD, a P-07 (Christmas Present from my wife) and in April of this year, I could not resist an SDP. She shoots as well or better than her brothers, but the trigger and sights are beyond compare.http://

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Re: Where are the CZ 75 SDP COMPACT OWNERS AT
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 07:41:01 PM »
Had a P06 sold it a while back when I was consolidating to 9mm.  Would love to get a PCR , they seem like the perfect size.

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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 12:58:40 AM »
I love my PCR. I certainly wont be  parting with it.   ;)