Customization

[roadrunner840]

New RAMI BD 9mm owner. I'm also still a novice so my gunsmithing skills are pretty much nonexistent (context for my question): following some comments on this forum, I checked out the website for CGW. I was wondering what folks think of their defensive carry customization? On the one hand, it is almost 50% of the gun's retail price. On the other hand, if the RAMI is used as a carry weapon, I can see the value in the enhancements they offer with that package. I think they also offered the trigger retraction (my wording) wherein I think they move the resting position of the trigger farther back. With my medium sized hands, I do have to reach a bit to find the trigger when it is in half-cock. So I just wanted to see what folks think of this and if any of you have had CGW perform this customization. You might suggest just buying the parts and DIY but again, I have no gunsmithing skills and wouldn't want to screw up my new RAMI.

When I bought it, I didn't think I would use the RAMI as a carry weapon because of its width primarily. But after shooting it I am seriously reconsidering. My current EDC is a Kahr MK9 and sometimes a Ruger LC9S - both very thin but with obvious capacity disadvantages. Considering the RAMI as a carry weapon prompted me to consider the CGW defensive carry package - just curious what you all think.

[oldfrank]

I know CGW does great work and you would be well pleased with the results if the package is something you are willing to pay for.
Working on CZ's does not necessarily require  gunsmithing skills but it does help if you are handy that way.

There are plenty of videos,articles and people here  that can help you through the process if you decide to buy the parts and do the work yourself.

I guess it depends on your ability and finances.

Good Luck!

[Bucolic]

I have not done the reach reduction, but I have replaced the hammer spring, firing pin, etc with CGW parts on two CZ 75s and a RAMI.  In each case, the trigger pull was reduced considerably.  It's a pretty simple procedure if you have a good set of punches and the kit is inexpensive.  Someone else may comment on the reach reduction kit.

[roadrunner840]

Does anyone have any ideas how many rounds I should expect out of my RAMI (w/out replacing any major components such as slide and frame)?  If I understand correctly, aluminum frames don't have as long a lifespan as steel or polymer but I really don't know how to translate that to # of rounds or # of years. I mostly shoot lighter loads. Also, if it is your EDC, do you put a lot of rounds through your RAMI at the range or pretty much limit it to occasional practice? I was just wondering because I'm weighing the cost of the CGW package against how much I think I might use my RAMI.

[cntrydawwwg]

Roadrunner, I've never seen or heard of a post on here where someone wore out a Rami[emoji6] 
    The outer recoil spring would be one to have a couple extras of.
     My Rami is my carry, and I shoot it every time I go to the range. Even if it's just a couple mags.
    IMHO, there's no reason to pack a pistol, if you don't put rounds thru it periodically to stay proficient with it. [emoji6]

[roadrunner840]

Totally get what you're saying. Up to now, I've followed the MO of shooting my EDC just often enough to stay proficient but having other firearms for enjoyment at the range (ie my Kimber). My LC9s for example was a good carry option but not much fun at the range. Sometime ago I was thinking of spending on a custom Wilson Combat and their website had this discussion of aluminum vs steel frame. Which led me to believe the aluminum, while lighter for carry, wasn't going to hold up well. The RAMI, in my short experience of 300 rounds is fun to shoot. So it might end up as my EDC and one I'd like to wear out at the range. Just didn't know if that translated to 10,000 rounds or 50,000 etc. Was probably a dumb question but was wondering if anyone on this forum has hit any really high round counts with their RAMI. Thanks again.

[cntrydawwwg]

There are no dumb questions. How will you know, if you don't ask?
    I won't say it'll "never" wear out, but will be good for many, many, many thousands of rounds.[emoji48]
    While not a Rami--Just to put things into perspective, this guy has 45,000 rounds thru a P09 and still going strong.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=76964
   Many shooters on here have tens of thousands of rounds thru their CZ's. CZ's are built to last.

[roadrunner840]

Looking into that CGW customization further (the defensive carry package), I wonder if the single action modification is a bit on the light side? It says they take the DA trigger pull to about 7.5 lbs. I looked up my Kahr and Ruger and they are listed at around 7lbs. So the DA modification seems reasonable. The SA however they take to around 3.5 lbs. I looked up my Kimber and the Springfield EMP and they are supposed to be 4-5 lbs. After shooting the RAMI and for defensive purposes, it seems like a SA pull of about 4.5 to 5 lbs is about right (and safe(r)). Any opinions on this? Of course their pro package customization takes the SA pull even lighter which seems a bit nuts for anything other than range use. I'm still considering having the work done but if I do I will request a heavier SA modification (if possible).

[cntrydawwwg]

    When you mention "safe" I'm assuming you mean by when your finger is on the trigger for the first pull.
    Your comparing the SA trigger pull to pistols that have SA first shot.
   The BD is gonna be DA first shot. If you're in a position to have to pull that first shot, you're not gonna have to worry about the lighter SA pull IMHO.
     Every pistol is different so the weights listed are average. Also if you send it in they'll polish it up perfect for you. So if you did it yourself I bet the weights may be a little more.
    Double check with CGW, but I believe the CGW hammer lightens the SA pull a bit. So if you wanted a heavier SA, don't add the hammer.
   The CGW hammer is very sweet and crisp in my SP01 Tac. But it's for range. As of now, I'm very happy keeping the OEM hammer in my Rami. Just my personal opinions[emoji6]
     FWIW, I think you'd be doing yourself a favor and call CGW. Tell them exactly what you want. Set some time aside as David and the crew are very thorough and great guys to talk with. They won't try to "up sell" you anything that you don't need. They'd be the ones to give you more facts and less opinions. [emoji6]

[pcator13]

My RAMI is my carry gun and as so I am not going to do anything to it.  When push come to shove I do not want to shoot up the neighborhood.  I want the extra pull when firing the first shot.  I would shoot it for a while and you might just think as I do.  It's perfect.

Patrick

[Obiwan]

My RAMI is my carry gun and as so I am not going to do anything to it.  When push come to shove I do not want to shoot up the neighborhood.  I want the extra pull when firing the first shot.  I would shoot it for a while and you might just think as I do.  It's perfect.

Same here. The only modification for my RAMI (manual safety) will be Meprolight sights. The rest remains stock because for a carry gun, for me and in my opinion, it's perfect. Besides, I don't want to have opposing counsel claim in court that I had my gun polished so I could kill faster. 

[Cybersnow]

What are Meprolight sights.  I spent 36 years in the military and carried in more than a few combat situations.  Other than ensuring the sights are easily seen and accurate,  the only guns I ever modded were the combat competition ones.

[cntrydawwwg]

What are Meprolight sights.  I spent 36 years in the military and carried in more than a few combat situations.  Other than ensuring the sights are easily seen and accurate,  the only guns I ever modded were the combat competition ones.

Meprolights are a brand on night sights with titanium inserts.