I just purchased a set of these from a member here. I just wanted to pass along that they are great grips. Thin bit not quite as thin as VZ's. The texture provides a firm grip. The main thing though, is the screw hole is large enough that no modification to the grip is necessary. I have to enlarge the VZ grip holes to fit my Tristars, but the Hogue is ready to go out of the box. I'll add a pic tonight.