p-07 alternative safety lever?

[Boriqua]

Probably a stupid question but .. I am seriously considering carrying my p-07 cocked and locked. I have carried a 1911 for most of the last 10 yrs and I never thought I would change but the light weight, super accurate, awesomely awesome p-07 wiggled its way on to my belt about 2 months ago and my Commander has been in the drawer. Had the CZ out at the range this past weeekend and it is really an incredible piece and when I consider I got it for around $400.00 new I am stunned they are not on everyones must have list. I never would have thought ... plastic and 9mm! But its awesome.

So back to the topic at hand.. Mine came with the decocker installed and the safety in the box to swap out and while I have been practising that double action and am fairly accurate I would like to keep the same operation as my other handgun. The safety in the box is a wee bitty thing though and while I dont like large safeties I would like one easier to swat then the one provided.

Here is my question ... are there safeties made for other models of CZ that will also fit the p-07. I found a list of safeties at

http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/safeties.html

but dont know if any are interchangable.
Thank you for any info
Alex

[whitecap]

You stated that it came with both a safety and the decocker as they all do. What are your concerns, problems with the issued safety? This will help in answering your question more accurately.

[Boriqua]

In a perfect world I would like there to just be a little more of it! I had a grandower for a hot five minutes and it too had a safety lever that was little more than a slight bump. I dont like many of the giant paddles either but something like on my 1911 would be great. I had swapped out the huge ambi safety for the GI which is about as perfect for me as it gets. If I could find something close for the p-07 I would be in heaven!

[Tom Moeller]

I am fairly certain that you cannot swap a P07/09 safety with other models.  I have made the switch from decocker to safety on both of my P07's and will do the P09 this weekend.  The internals seem to be model specific unless the "Omega" trigger has the same internals across platforms.

I carry with the hammer down because the hammer pokes my arm (carry high owb) and with a slight but noticeable smoothing and reduction of the DA trigger pull I see no need to keep it cocked.  The first DA shot is quite light and smooth yet still maintains the safety factor when not in use.
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[Boriqua]

I am fairly certain that you cannot swap a P07/09 safety with other models.  I have made the switch from decocker to safety on both of my P07's and will do the P09 this weekend.  The internals seem to be model specific unless the "Omega" trigger has the same internals across platforms.

I carry with the hammer down because the hammer pokes my arm (carry high owb) and with a slight but noticeable smoothing and reduction of the DA trigger pull I see no need to keep it cocked.  The first DA shot is quite light and smooth yet still maintains the safety factor when not in use.
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That is interesting .. if you are going to carry hammer down what was the benefit or what was it about your personal choices that made you switch to the safety and manual decock. Is there a performance improvement to be had by removing the decocker. I have only had one other gun ever with a decocker and many guns have passed this way

My main reason for wanting to go cocked and locked is just so I keep the same practised motion for both guns. I am a firm believer in muscle memory and it would be nice to go through the same process on draw for both guns .... even though it looks like the 1911 may become the nightstand gun.

[whitecap]

Ok, this is what I did to achieve what I believe you are looking for to both my 07 & 09. I removed the safety lever and used a small triangular file to make a groove in the thumb piece. I then took an empty cartridge container, the black plastic type, and cut from it, 2 of the cell walls to utilize as stock. I super glued the 2 pieces together and rough fashioned into the shape I wanted. Next I glued the roughly fashioned pieces into the groove I created in the thumb safety lever. I continued to file and shape until I had something very similar to the safety on my Kimber. It took a while but the end result was, IMO, very worth the time spent in fabrication. If I knew how to put up a picture, I would. Hope the directions will allow you to see the process in your head. Good luck

[Boriqua]

Here are the pix of the Whitecap mod for anyone else interested

[Boriqua]

Well this is a little weird and maybe you CZ fans can help me understand. I swapped out the decocker for the safety and am already much more pleased with it. I like having the same draw and same action for both my primary handguns. If you follow this video swapping the decoker for safety is literally a 2 minute job. Took me longer to find a pen cap to push out the slide stop. Only bad thing is I didnt pay close attention to where the decocker spring was hooked so if I want to put it back in I am at a loss some. He addresses putting the decocker in but I still would have liked to see that spring in place but.. Im old and had the wrong glasses on. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtUB_6kd-Jc

But what I didnt expect and I am pretty sure its not my imagination is that when I manually lower the hammer to half cock, the same position the decocker defaults to, and pull double action I get a whole lot less movement of my front sight. I tried it some 20 times and I am sure that the trigger pull in DA seems easier?? I had been practising with the DA with the decocker for a couple of weeks now so I know I can feel a difference ... What would cause that? Does that little spring on the decocker contribute some resistance to the DA pull? Im pretty sure its not just my imagination ... or is it?

[tamlin]

Yup the decocker spring does add some resistance to the DA pull.  As for putting that spring back: the long leg points  down and fits inside of the vertical roll pin just right of center in the frame.  The short leg points toward the muzzle and you will need to capture this leg behind the cam lever on the left-side decocking lever.

Look around a little more on youtube though.  You should be able to find a better video that will show you how to reinstall the decocker.

[Joe L]

Here are some assembly/disassembly videos.   

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7GbOFIiTV0zywDb1XrQ2FMDvFsgCtXkF

Joe