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Offline gregorydearth

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2015, 09:26:45 AM »
Thanks a lot for the pics of the sight enhancement! I shall be doing something quite similar.

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2015, 01:38:22 PM »
Thanks a lot for the pics of the sight enhancement! I shall be doing something quite similar.

Your welcome and please post your findings.  I'm interested in any improvements.

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2015, 02:25:44 AM »

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2015, 04:11:53 AM »
It does help tremendously.  I painted the sights of both my Ruger SP101 and Kahr PM9 similarly.  Taped off the areas with blue painters tape and excess "whittled" off with an exacto knife.  Cut at the point you want to be an edge and then whittle it back and off from there.  Dig too deep and there will be marring.  I went slowly and cut just deep enough to separate the paint and not going too far -- it's a feel thing, kind of like stripping electrical wire in a pinch with a pocket knife. 

Both the SP101 and PM9 are fantastic handguns with terrible sights (I bought the Kahr used with the factory white missing from the sights) that easily get lost against each other and the target in all but the best of lighting.  On both I used dollar-store nail polish to paint the front sight white and the rear sight orange.  The contrast and speed of acquisition are excellent.  Both sets of sights have held up to hundreds of rounds of shooting and numerous cleanings.

By the way, I've taken my rifles out shooting with the new paint configurations.  I left the first one with a white front and green rear, but did the rest with white on both.  Target acquisition is greatly improved through varying backgrounds, targets, lighting, and levels of smoky ammo.  I even did the rear peep of my Beretta CX4.  At first, I tried to paint a white circle with a border of black left between the hole, but couldn't find a good, clean way to do it.  I ended up dotting white paint at 12-3-6-9 and just that little bit did wonders to help my eye aim quickly and accurately.

I haven't resumed experiments with the glow in the dark paint.  Although it's high quality, it's just a too little granular to use in this situation.  I may think of some alternate, larger patterns, like maybe lining the edge of the front sight post protector.  Although not terribly accurate without the rear sight, a pair of opposite-facing half-moons in the dark may be enough to be effective at closer ranges.  Kind of like a low-rent red dot.

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2016, 02:46:06 AM »
GunExpert is now offering a new version of fiber optic sight where the windage and elevation are both adjustable on the rear sight:
http://www.vz58rifle.com/products/side-adjustable-fiber-optic-rear-sight/



Non-fiber version:



Standard fiber version:




My thoughts:
-Windage adjustment is great, but elevation seems silly -- and you lose the bdc of standard...  But for 3 gun and the like or trying to turn this combat carbine into a more precision target shooting rig, I get it.  Ultimately, I'd prefer to see something more along the lines of RPK rear sight than this one, but YMMV.
-Like the fiber setup, but I'd be really happy to see a fiber and tritium version --- perhaps fiber side and single tritium dot on rear for a dot the it type setup...
-Width of rear slot is the same as original.  I'd really like to see a fuller mod type rear sight with wider opening here.  This weapon is a carbine first and foremost, and speed of sight alignment is crucial. 

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2016, 06:12:46 AM »
I want a set of the plain fiber sights. When they get down to $50 or so shipped then I'll bite

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2016, 04:00:06 PM »
Several folks have reported front fiber melting...

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2016, 06:47:39 PM »
Several folks have reported front fiber melting...

The green set looks very nice.  I'd probably have the front and rear be different colors.

On the red set, the rear dots seem to set too far below the center notch to properly align with the front sight.  I guess the front sight elevation could be adjusted, but either the rear dots should go higher, or the center notch cut deeper.

Definitely attractive if the melting problem could be solved.

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2016, 01:09:41 AM »
I dont like the elimination of the BDC system. Having one on your optic/iron mitigates the crazy holdovers you would otherwise need to remember past 300. Ill pass on this "upgrade".

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Re: Iron Sights Enhancement
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2016, 10:24:45 AM »
Note:  Gun expert sent me a couple sets of the cheap and cheerful rear/front red "fiber" sight pairs a while back (about 2 years ago?).  The front post threads did not work in two of my guns, and one actually cross-threaded.  The rear sight blade worked well enough so I painted the original front post with green fluorescent sight paint.

Since my eyesight isn't really good enough to use iron sights well anyway, these are back ups to an optic, but still a waste of money on the front post.
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