Author Topic: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine  (Read 3141 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline M1A4ME

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7578
  • I've shot the rest, I now own the best - CZ
Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« on: April 04, 2016, 01:59:12 PM »
Got it in the mail today and put it on it's frame.

I might be able to get to the range either tomorrow or Wednesday.  Depends on the weather and other things.

Another dual illuminated Trijicon.  This one with an amber dot.  Man, is it bright outside with the sun shining on it.  Almost hard to look at.

Only two pictures right now.  Might be upside down, if so, I'll try to "fix" it.  Once again, no matter which way it's oriented on photobucket it shows up here upside down when I look at the post.  Not sure which way to turn it there, to make it look right here, for everyone else to look at it right side up.



Top view, showing sight placement.

« Last Edit: April 04, 2016, 02:59:52 PM by M1A4ME »
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

Offline Raining_Brass

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1170
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 09:38:34 PM »
They always look good here at the shop, but man they look even better when they're back home on their frames!

Offline Winkel

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 901
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2016, 09:53:20 PM »
Yes, I definitely see one of these setups in my future!

In stead of buying a gun next year, I think this will be my project.

I have seen people put some tape over part of the light pipe piece on the top to tone down the brightness in full sunlight.

Offline M1A4ME

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7578
  • I've shot the rest, I now own the best - CZ
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 06:10:32 AM »
When it comes right down to it, there is considerable cost over a stock P07 or P09.  The RMR is over $400 and the work to make it look like these do it almost as much as I paid for the pistol a couple years back.

But once you shoot it and you see the advantages of the sight in speed and accuracy it makes it worth it, to me anyway.

The idea, of this type of pistol is to be able to hit the target quickly and effectively.  This set up makes it easier for me.

I've seen/read some people claim that the "dot" is slower than the iron sights.  They say they have to hunt for the red dot when they present the pistol to the target.  I'm not sure how your pistol, if you've got the right grip and have practiced with it, is any different than with iron sights.  I've talked about this before.  When I was carrying my M&P FS 9MM I changed to the large back strap insert and only noticed it fit my hand wrong when aiming some place beside straight/level in front of me.  I had to find the front sight by waving the pistol around.  My 1911s are "right there" no matter the angle/direction.  It was the large insert.  Felt good in my hand, but threw the angle of the gun off.  I went to the medium insert and everything was cool again.

If your front sight is there when you raise your pistol up, or when the pistol recovers from recoil, the dot will be there.

Practice with the dot, just like you practice with the sights.

I was afraid (a little) at first that my mind (easily confused these days as I am) would stumble when presented with the iron sights I'm used to vs. the dot I'm not used to.  That hasn't been true.  The dot is brighter, in all conditions, than the FO front sight and it grabs my attention immediately.

Now, I don't shoot competition, I just shoot paper, but for me the dot is helping me shoot better.

I don't think dots are a fad.  S&W and Glock make some of their models "dot ready" from the factory.  I read, on the internet, that there are problems with some of these guns if you want to be able to co-witness with the dot sight or use the irons as a back up vs. just ornamentation.  No such issues with either of mine.  Now I did not try to sight my P09 in to have the dot and iron sights have the same POI.  The iron sights, with my 115 grain loads, shoots a little low up close.  I adjusted the dot to put POI higher, so it is on POA up close.

There are companies out there that will modify other brands of guns for dot sights.  The idea is growing.

I may try a Delta Point Pro next time.  I bought a couple of the rear sights that go on the Pro (ever use that excuse?  Well, I've got a couple magazines for a P09, so I should get a P09) and if they keep getting good reviews one of those might be my next dot sight purchase.

Which ever direction you go (back up sights, no back up sights) or dot sight you buy, or what pistol you put it on, good luck with it.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

Offline Winkel

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 901
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 09:19:15 PM »
Oh, I fully intend to spend about the same $ as I would for another gun.

Like you, my aging eyes could really benefit from a dot sight.  I shot one several years ago and really liked it.

Offline M1A4ME

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7578
  • I've shot the rest, I now own the best - CZ
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 06:26:55 AM »
Got stuff ready to head to the range this morning.  Going to be cold (about 30 F right now) and should work it's way up to around 55 F by the time I'm ready to come home this afternoon.  Got a couple pistols to shoot and an AR15 rifle with some more test ammo.

Pictures and results this evening.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

Offline Jamiethesquid

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 10:55:03 PM »
I got mine back too.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Joe L

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7381
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2016, 07:15:32 AM »
I turn my Burris on and off when at the range.  During the week, the sight is off.  I use the 3 moa dot on its lowest setting to get the smallest dot.  For a carry gun, are you leaving the dot on or does it adjust automatically, or is the ambient light enough?  I've only used the Burris on a pistol and don't have anything on an AR and am just not clear on how the sights used on carry guns are working out for battery life and "readiness". 

Joe
CZ-75B 9mm and Kadet, 97B"E", two P-09's, P-07, P-10C, P-10F, P-10S, MTR

Offline Jamiethesquid

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2016, 03:31:52 PM »
I don't usually carry a gun with a dot but that may change in the future. I plan to pick up a P-07 for that purpose in the future.  Battery life is great so far. And I have had folks tell me that they will last a couple years. I like the 8 MOA dot for my astigmatism and the speed for USPSA.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline doitbby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 73
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 07:57:55 PM »
How functional are the "iron" sights set up like that with the rear moved forward?

Offline M1A4ME

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7578
  • I've shot the rest, I now own the best - CZ
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 08:20:23 PM »
What is functional, for your purposes?

You can see them just fine.  You can use them just fine.

The iron sights, for me, are there for back ups in case the RMR fails for some reason.  I can honestly say, that since I had the RMR put on I've only used the iron sights to shoot the pistols one time each - just to see /compare POI vs. the RMR before I sighted the RMR in and then one group to see how the groups compared to the RMR. 

Since then I "see" the iron sights, but I use the RMR to put holes in the target.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

Offline Dhenry360

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 69
Re: Got the P07 slide back from Primary Machine
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2016, 11:19:09 PM »
Anyone know if the suppressor height sights are an issue with a milled slide on a P07?

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk