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Offline painter

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Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« on: October 14, 2016, 05:51:45 PM »
When you reload bottle necked cartridges, like .223, when do you trim? Before or after sizing?

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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 05:56:27 PM »
After.

The growth takes place during FL re-sizing. If you're shooting a bolt action .223, then you can use the Lee "collet neck sizing die" and avoid a lot of the length changes.
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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2016, 06:15:49 PM »
Thanks Mr. W. That's what I was thinking.

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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 07:02:46 PM »
Yes, trim after sizing.  I shoot mostly .223 from an AR so I don't neck size but do use a Hornady headspace gauge to judge how far back to bump back the shoulder for minimal case working.  I hate trimming brass!  That's why I have 2000 pieces of brass that I rotate. 
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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 08:11:40 PM »
RCBS X-dies are supposed to greatly reduce the stretching when the expander/ball is pulled up out of the case neck.

Many people report trimming goes from every 3 reloadings to once at the beginning and it's not needed afterwards.

Reloading for a semi-auto usually means your brass won't last as long.

Reloading max, or near max, loads also shortens the life of brass.

When you trim, make sure to debur the inside and outside of the case mouth.  Some trimmers (the expensive ones) do this for you but most of us have to trim, then use a deburring tool clean up the inside/outside of the case mouth to keep from scratching the bullets up during the seating step.
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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2016, 08:35:29 PM »
I use Lee neck sizing dies.

I shoot one .223 and one 6.5 Swede, both bolt rifles. I've loaded a little for the .223, and it's been a while, so I just wanted to refresh my memory.

I'm not good with notes.

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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2016, 11:14:52 PM »
2000 .223 brass? Sheesh, i thought 500 was way cool...I gotta scrounge more. :)
i haven't trimmed any .223 lately, but when i do, it's always after sizing/decapping.

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Re: Question for rifle caliber reloaders
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 05:39:48 AM »
2000 .223 brass? Sheesh, i thought 500 was way cool...I gotta scrounge more. :)
i haven't trimmed any .223 lately, but when i do, it's always after sizing/decapping.

I'm a sucker for a sale and found a good one for new Lake City brass a few years ago!  I'd like to find one for 6.8spc which I tend to load near the max.
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