I was at a 1911 match recently and a local (Central AL) bullet maker was there selling traditional lead/wax lubed bullets. I had used some of his before but had since switched to a 45 ACP 200 gr LRN coated bullet I was getting from S&S. He replied that was fine too as he sold his unlubed bullets by the ton (literally) to S&S & Bayou, who then coated them. Good bullets in my experience