97B"E" at 100 yards today, excellent results, finally.

[Joe L]

The gun was always good.  Shooter needed work.  Here is the result...

https://youtu.be/WvRO491Cw3s

I am getting to where I can shoot this gun from a rest as well as I learned to shoot the P-09's from a rest. 

Joe

[nicky]

I am getting to where I can shoot this gun from a rest as well as I learned to shoot the P-09's from a rest. 

Joe
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That comes as no surprise to me. .
 I think you can shoot any pistol accurately given a little time with it.

[wrdwrght]

That's inspiring. Does the sight have any magnification?

[Joe L]

That's inspiring. Does the sight have any magnification?

Nope.  Run it at is, on the lowest intensity to get the crisp small dot size.
Joe

[handgun2]

OK,
can all of us be 'real"  Holey Crap!!!"  a basic 4 inch group at 100 YARDS!  wow, way to go JOE! most can't do that at 7yds, or 10yds or 15yds.. or 25yds,

wow, thanks as always for letting us know 'what' can 'really' be done!

my hat's off to you, Joe, thanks for all your posts! I learn so much!

k in MI

[Mr HH]

My new CZC 97BD Accu will be in this week Joe. If I can achieve anything close to your accuracy I'll be very pleased. Always fun watching your finger. Lol. One I get the feel of mine maybe I'll do an open sight video at 100 yards, assuming I shoot well enough to have something worth watching.. I've taken to using a target cam but at present I don't have the technology to synch two videos.

[Joe L]

Mr. HH--Try Cyberlink Power Director 11 or later for editing software on a Windows PC.  It is about $70, I think.  Easy to use. 

The real trick to shooting at 100 yards is duplicating the sight alignment for each shot, especially with open sights.  It is easier with a red dot, but still the same challenge.  I pick an aim point that is just a little larger than the dot size and then try to see some of the aim point around the dot.  Last weekend with the 75B I shot 5 rounds each of two different loads, checked and marked the hits, went back and did two more 5 shot groups and they were both slightly below the first goups.  I think I lined up the dot on the bottom edge of the aim point on the second groups instead of the center, but I did it the same for all 10 shots.  The groups were still good at 2" (50 yards, not a 100), but offset. 

Shooter ALWAYS needs work.  Gun rarely, after first fix. 

Joe

[Boris_LA]

My new CZ 97B after installing CGW pro package has an excellent trigger, but in ransom rest i still could not get less than 4" at 50m groups reliably. Slide now is in the route to CGW for bushing conversion. Will see when it comes back if accuracy improvement is dramatic.

[DDeslaur]

good shooting at 100 yards Joe.
Keep practicing.

[MissionaryMike]

My new CZ 97B after installing CGW pro package has an excellent trigger, but in ransom rest i still could not get less than 4" at 50m groups reliably. Slide now is in the route to CGW for bushing conversion. Will see when it comes back if accuracy improvement is dramatic.

Do you reload your own ammo, order custom or "match" ammo from places like Atlanta Arms or Freedom Munitions, or are you using off the shelf ammo?  Ammo can play a big role in extreme accuracy.  I'm pretty sure Joe is using a particular load, or at least a favorite bullet weight that he's experimented with. 

[Joe L]

Joe's favorite ammo for the 97 is Atlanta Arms 185 gr JHP match.  Expensive, but very, very consistent.  I didn't experiment much.  A few 4-6" groups at 100 yards and the experimenting is over.   I don't reload.  I use the 115 gr JHP from Atlanta Arms in the P-09/07 and 75B. 

Joe

[MissionaryMike]

Joe, have you chrono'd that cartridge?  If so, what's the fps?

[Joe L]

I only checked it once through a chronograph that I can't vouch for, and it averaged 830 fps.  I need to test it again some time. 
Joe

[Mr HH]

I tried to order some Atlanta Arms ammo online and it says they won't ship to my zipcode(s). Don't understand that. No restrictions where I live. In the mean time I may try a case of LAX Ammo factory new JHP in .45. Getting great reviews, they even use their own head stamp now and free shipping on the first order. Anyone know why AA doesn't ship out west?