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What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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SouthernScorp
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What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 01:26:14 AM »
Just got my evo yesterday haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but with the factory sights what range is the norm for zero with 9mm in a 7.7 barrel "pistol" evo.
25 yards ? 15 ? 17? etc
on a side note I'll prob end up swapping the factories for a set of diamondback or troy standard height "ar-15 top rail height" flip sights, these bleeped scorpion sights are much lower than I'm used to.
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PMM Safety Levers
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pdfromwv
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 06:38:11 AM »
I sighted the factory sights in at 50 yards. But I'll probably never use them again. Now the EVO has a Burris Fastfire III on it. The factory's lower co-witness well with the Fastfire. I use the biggest aperture on the rear sight and it doesn't get in the way.
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earlan357
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 09:34:35 AM »
I like 25 yards. I also run a Fastfire at factory height. With 147 subs a 25 yard zero gives me a pretty usable trajectory to 50 yards. With 115, a 25 yard zero can make it to about 65 yards before it really starts to drop.
With an AR height sight, it would extend the range another 10-15 yards, but you'd really be lobbing them at anything past 75 yards.
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armoredman
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 01:29:24 PM »
I actually have mine zero'ed at 100 yards. However, I also discovered that a 100 yard zero for the Scorpion still allows for right on target up close and personal with the red dot.
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longgonedaddy
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 04:14:28 PM »
I sight them in at my local gun range? Does it matter if they are sighted in at a different gun range?
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akuser47
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 04:37:23 PM »
50 yards.
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OhHey1
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 05, 2016, 08:47:55 PM »
I sighted in at 25 but my irons still seem dead on at 50 too.
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 06, 2016, 12:53:05 AM »
For those with something like a microdot (Aimpoint, Holosun, etc), is it desirable to have that zeroed at one range, like 100 yards, and iron sights at let's say 50? No co-witnessing, the iron sights visible under the elevated microdot...
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earlan357
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 06, 2016, 08:24:39 AM »
According to the ballistic calculator on gundata.org: 25 yard zero assuming a 2" height over bore and a 50 fps velocity boost from the longer barrel.
Range Drop Drop FPS FPS ft/lbs ft/lbs
115gr 147gr 115gr 147gr 115gr 147gr
0 -1.9818 -1.9794 1229 1000 386 326
5 -1.4649 -1.4069 1211 994 374 322
10 -1.0073 -0.9223 1193 989 363 319
15 -0.6107 -0.5264 1176 984 353 316
20 -0.2769 -0.2203 1160 979 344 313
25 -0.0077 -0.0049 1145 974 335 310
30 0.1953 0.1189 1130 969 326 306
35 0.3301 0.1503 1116 965 318 304
40 0.3951 0.0883 1102 960 310 301
45 0.3886 -0.0681 1089 955 303 298
50 0.3089 -0.3196 1077 951 296 295
55 0.1543 -0.6673 1066 947 290 293
60 -0.0769 -1.112 1054 942 284 290
65 -0.3862 -1.6545 1044 938 278 287
70 -0.7753 -2.2958 1033 934 272 285
75 -1.2458 -3.0369 1024 930 268 282
80 -1.7992 -3.8784 1014 926 263 280
85 -2.4371 -4.8215 1005 922 258 277
90 -3.1611 -5.8668 996 918 253 275
95 -3.9726 -7.0154 988 914 249 273
100 -4.8731 -8.2681 980 910 245 270
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SouthernScorpion
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 06, 2016, 08:38:53 AM »
25 yards. Here's why.
http://web.archive.org/web/20071106054651/groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/9mmzero.msnw
Eta: nice screen name, op.
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mursalot
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 06, 2016, 10:11:43 AM »
I've only shot at 50 yards with the pistol and carbine. With both I need to hold a 6 o'clock sight picture to hit dead center of a 3" plate. This is with the front sight bottomed out.
Currently my range goes to 75 yards, but I haven't had the chance to shoot that far since I'm in the process of extending out to 100 yards. It's a pain in the butt to cut down trees, work around stumps and rebuild the berm
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SouthernScorp
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 07, 2016, 07:36:42 PM »
been raining since yesterday non friggin stop on me so I can't go out back to the range but I did get to shoot some saturday until my uncle and his fiance stopped in for a suprised visit... then it got too dark
... FROM THE FACTORY my evo is apparently zero'd dead accurate at 50 yards using winchester white box 115grn that I tested.. I was pleasantly suprised 9mm carbines can be this accurate about silver dollar groups using a front bag and iron sights on smallest aperature... THE ONLY thing I don't like is the sight height, I can use them fine I just am use to ar-15 height sights so I find myself bending my neck/head down after shouldering to get the correct sight picture
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SLR Synergy Mini comp
SBT-EVO Brace
PMM Safety Levers
Dual HBI Prostock Charging Handles
Gearhead Mag Release
HBI Trigger Spring
HBI Delta Trigger
PMM QD Front & Rear
Magpul MS1 + QDs
Holosun HS515cu on ADM low mount
Vendetta VP-17-A AFG
SouthernScorp
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 07, 2016, 07:38:38 PM »
^^^^ see above ^^^^ excuse to justify another micro red dot sight
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CZ Scorpion Evo S1 Pistol:
SLR Synergy Mini comp
SBT-EVO Brace
PMM Safety Levers
Dual HBI Prostock Charging Handles
Gearhead Mag Release
HBI Trigger Spring
HBI Delta Trigger
PMM QD Front & Rear
Magpul MS1 + QDs
Holosun HS515cu on ADM low mount
Vendetta VP-17-A AFG
armoredman
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 07, 2016, 08:59:25 PM »
Rain is a problem....?
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armoredman
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Re: What Range do you Zero the iron Sights at?
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November 07, 2016, 10:19:23 PM »
No problem, I have a lot of Natural Gear t-shirts, short and long sleeve, had a pair of pants but they went somewhere. Wish Walmart still carried the discounted stuff like they used to - have a Natural gear zip up light jacket I've been wearing for about 15 years now. I would love a complete BDU style set, as the pattern works well here in the upper desert.
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