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Offline schmeky

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Evolution of the Omega
« on: December 04, 2016, 08:43:12 PM »
We have been building quite a few of the P-01 Omegas (as well as P-07/09's) sent to us by their owners.  We have been so impressed with the final results we wanted to let folks know how well the Omega is working overall, especially the P-01.

DA - We are measuring some fantastic, incredibly smooth, linear pulls in DA.  Using the polishing tips we have shared, combined with our 92030 reset parts and our precision rollers, we have simply been "wowed" by the results. 

SA - One of the things we really like about the Omega lock work is the full width single action hammer hook.  This is a robust, extremely durable design.  We know of a CZ Omega we built a few years ago with nearly 70,000 rounds down the pipe with the same CGW hammer, OEM sear, and all CGW internal parts.  The trigger pull in SA has not changed and is still safe and crisp.  Nothing has worn out or broken to date.

SA Reset - Although this can vary due to manufacturing tolerances, we are obtaining some impressively short reset distances. 

Overall, we continue to be impressed with this lock work and can see no negatives.  The Omega is simple, durable, easy to upgrade, and responds very well to improvements.   

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 09:00:11 PM »
We have been building quite a few of the P-01 Omegas (as well as P-07/09's) sent to us by their owners.  We have been so impressed with the final results we wanted to let folks know how well the Omega is working overall, especially the P-01.

DA - We are measuring some fantastic, incredibly smooth, linear pulls in DA.  Using the polishing tips we have shared, combined with our 92030 reset parts and our precision rollers, we have simply been "wowed" by the results. 

SA - One of the things we really like about the Omega lock work is the full width single action hammer hook.  This is a robust, extremely durable design.  We know of a CZ Omega we built a few years ago with nearly 70,000 rounds down the pipe with the same CGW hammer, OEM sear, and all CGW internal parts.  The trigger pull in SA has not changed and is still safe and crisp.  Nothing has worn out or broken to date.

SA Reset - Although this can vary due to manufacturing tolerances, we are obtaining some impressively short reset distances. 

Overall, we continue to be impressed with this lock work and can see no negatives.  The Omega is simple, durable, easy to upgrade, and responds very well to improvements.
Thanks for taking the time to share! After these results and experiences have you guys considered making components to convert these to SAO?

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 04:16:38 PM »
Dave, your parts in my P 01 omega makes for a fantastic pistol.  The reset is slightly longer than the shadows but I am very happy with how the new omega functions. 

I let one of my glock friends try it following IDPA on Saturday and he was very impressed with it. 

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 06:42:06 PM »
I have to ask. Is the Omega system superior to the original trigger system?

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 07:26:17 PM »
When do you think we will see a Rami in Omega?   I think I'd like to carry a Rami but I don't like cocked and locked carry and the decocker lever on the non-Omega CZs doesn't work with my grip.
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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 07:36:20 PM »
The issue with an SAO trigger is converting the action to a decocker.  You must use a manual safety with an SAO set up.  But it is inevitable that someone will install the SAO trigger and walk around with the pistol cocked, but no way to lock it to make it safe. 

In many ways the Omega is better, there is no moving sear cage, there are far fewer parts, and the action can literally be completely taken down with a tooth pick.  It's not perfect, but then nothing is.


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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2016, 08:23:47 PM »
Spoke with David on the phone yesterday about him sending back my P-01 Omega.  Hearing David tell me about my handgun, I cannot wait to get it in hand.  Got my shipping notice today so I should have my new Cajunized P-01 Omega by Wednesday. 

I also have P-09 that David did for me back in the summer, and if this Omega is anything close to my P-09, this thing should be out of this world.  Looking forward to getting it David and I will post up some pictures when it comes in!  Thanks for the great work David and CGW, you guys do fantastic work with supporting fantastic customer service!  Looking forward to getting it in.


Offline aceman4

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2016, 08:26:09 PM »
Another reason why I want a P-01 Omega....I've been looking for months and haven't had any luck on the new or used market.

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 12:45:43 PM »
Bapple I predict you will like it better than your p 09.  IMO, the more rigid aluminum frame makes the trigger feel better since the frame doesn't have even the slightest bit of flex. 

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 02:26:22 PM »
Came in today, I am at a loss for words.  This thing is simply fantastic, don't know how to otherwise describe it.  Pro Grade packet installed, setup for EDC, barrel bushing installed, TFX Pro night sights installed.  Already have my IWB kydex ready, so I will head to the range to test out reliability with some 147gr HST's then this thing is immediately going into the rotation for EDC.  Only other thing I may add is a SS guide rod.

David and CGW hit it out of the park with this bad boy...thanks CGW!!!






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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2016, 05:51:45 PM »
The issue with an SAO trigger is converting the action to a decocker.  You must use a manual safety with an SAO set up.  But it is inevitable that someone will install the SAO trigger and walk around with the pistol cocked, but no way to lock it to make it safe. 

In many ways the Omega is better, there is no moving sear cage, there are far fewer parts, and the action can literally be completely taken down with a tooth pick.  It's not perfect, but then nothing is.

Would it be enough to plaster it with "THIS PART UNSAFE TO INSTALL WITH DECOCKER. YOU MUST USE THE MANUAL SAFETY IF CARRYING YOUR FIREARM WITH OUR SAO TRIGGER INSTALLED" ?

When you think about it, someone could just as easily install a regular SAO trigger on an SP01 tactical. Personally I would think anyone ordering and installing custom aftermarket parts for their gun would understand that carrying a fully cocked weapon necessitates a safety.

Of course, I don't interact with your customers on a daily basis so I have no idea what I'm talking about  ;D

Bapple, I bet that conceals great with those thin grips!

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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2016, 06:56:32 PM »
Dave has done wonderful work on my P01 Omega.  I'm a CGW fan and will likely be a repeat customer in the future
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Re: Evolution of the Omega
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2016, 09:31:10 PM »
Beautiful piece you have there. Now only if I could find one.

 

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