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Offline 1SOW

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2016, 10:10:12 PM »
What hasn't been mentioned is not all DAs are long hard pulls.
With a little TLC my 75 Shadow ran well with a 5# (or slightly less) DA  and 2.5/.6 # SA.  I had to work to keep the SA weight UP.  With the short reset disconnector this combination was not hard to shoot accurately in DA.

This also gave the three optional conditions.  At half-cock it let you have a little more safety when shooting from the draw.  I have never used the safety on this pistol,  other than to test it after cleaning.  It took me more time to disengage the safety and fire than shooting DA  at a 10 yard head A-Zone shot and hit.

Just saying,  if you get a chance to pull the trigger on a DA/SA 75 set up for comp.,  you might be happily surprised.

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 07:26:52 AM »
What hasn't been mentioned is not all DAs are long hard pulls.
With a little TLC my 75 Shadow ran well with a 5# (or slightly less) DA  and 2.5/.6 # SA.  I had to work to keep the SA weight UP.  With the short reset disconnector this combination was not hard to shoot accurately in DA.

This also gave the three optional conditions.  At half-cock it let you have a little more safety when shooting from the draw.  I have never used the safety on this pistol,  other than to test it after cleaning.  It took me more time to disengage the safety and fire than shooting DA  at a 10 yard head A-Zone shot and hit.

Just saying,  if you get a chance to pull the trigger on a DA/SA 75 set up for comp.,  you might be happily surprised.

1SOW is correct.  The hammer spring in most DA/SA guns (and a few Ruger GP100 revolvers) is way stiffer than needed for good ammo even in a self defense gun.  This spring can be lightened up and you can get a very tolerable DA pull and still maintain 100% reliability if you choose the ammo.  A little dry fire once per week goes a long way.

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2017, 03:32:48 PM »
You know the funny thing is, I have yet to get the P-01 or SP-01 to a point where I can sit down and get some time in (I have a tendency of doing some kind of trigger package to lighten things up a bit). When I shoot the DA/SA, I don't shoot only the first shot as DA then the rest SA, every magazine, I decock, shoot the DA and then finish the magazine, rinse and repeat to get used to the DA. Sometimes I'll decock the whole magazine. Side note, I've recently got a G19 totally dialed in, put 500 rounds through and starting to get really comfortable with it. Another side note, put a few hundred through a G34, getting used to a light, single stack striker. The CZ TS, just downright easy to shoot. My point is, I like the idea of being able to pick up a pistol, any type pretty much and shooting it fairly well. I've learned a lot over the last six months and yes, changed a lot of pistols.

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 10:45:32 PM »
I'm 43.  I don't think I'm too old.  I learned to shoot a handgun using a Ruger SP101 with a bobbed hammer.  It was the most frustrating yet rewarding endeavors.  Until I got it right, I stubbornly kept on practicing.  I then switched to a Glock 19 Gen4.  While the blocky odd grip was the primary challenge to shooting the Glock well, the trigger wasn't.  After learning to shoot a DA revolver (no trigger mods), every other trigger is easy to shoot.

I then had hammer fire DA/SA guns.  I spent a few years with just striker fire handguns.  Then came SAO hammer fired 1911's.  As soon as concealed carry was available in Illinois, I jumped through the hoops to get my CCP and started carrying that Glock 19 every day.  I took classes with that Glock 19 and spent time drawing, live fire, then reholstering.  Fast to draw. Slow to reholster.  During the concealed carry journey my preferences evolved.  Maybe they devolved.  Today my primary carry is a DA/SA CZ 75D PCR.  I have similar rationale as the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP8F_cwotM8&t=296s

IMO, buy a revolver that isn't a snubby in a chambering that is compatible with .38 Special.  Spend quality practice time shooting it DAO.  Once you master that trigger, you won't have any issues with other trigger types.  You also may find that your preferences evolve like mine have.
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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2017, 01:20:11 AM »
I carry my cz-75 and my cz-83 cocked and locked, just like grandpappy taught me.

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2017, 07:55:03 AM »
I really never liked da/sa much either. I wasn't used to the trigger and going from a da to the sa pull was not natural. I went ahead and bought a 22 conversion of my sig m11a1 and practiced thousands and thousands or rounds from da to sa. If you have a legion sig that is one sweet trigger, da or sa. It just takes practice to get good.


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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2017, 08:13:21 AM »
With the Cajun Gun Works short reset, and shorter trigger reach parts you can minimize the DA pull as it will be shorter, lighter, and smoother. 

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Re: Striker, SAO or DA/SA
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2017, 08:42:54 AM »
One reason I like DA/SA pistols is the second strike capability - more efficient (faster) than racking the slide unless the ammo is so bad it won't ignite no matter what.
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