P-10C at 50 yards from a wrist rest, gun is excellent, just excellent

[Joe L]

But the shooter needs more trigger time with the compact striker fired pistol. 

I shot a 95 timed fire target but still had to make some adjustments to the LPA rear sight after adding shims and epoxy to the factory front #3 sight.  This narrowed the side view, filling up more of the notch in the rear sight, making it easier to repeat the hold in a precision shooting (slow fire) environment.  Not a run and gun modification. 

So far, all I have done to the pistol is put in a Wolff 4 lb striker spring for a Glock, added some Sugru to the grip, trimmed a little off the trigger guard and trigger safety, filed down the large grip insert to make it a little less abrasive on my hand, and fattened up the front sight.  The trigger pull is now 4-1/2 lbs, with a long pull.  It still has too much trigger bar engagement, even for me.  That is easily fixed, but later, when parts are available in case I ruin something like I did on the P-09 the first time I modified the hammer. 

I haven't been shooting much over the last few weeks, and when I have gotten out, it has been only with the P-10C.  Until I put the Wolff reduced power firing pin (striker) spring in the gun, I wasn't sure I was going to be able to adapt to the P-10C.  All is good now.   

I wasn't able to duplicate this five shot group today.  But the other groups were 2-4", no "bad" shots, only imperfect sight picture and trigger pull on my part.  I still have to work on my trigger pull a bunch.  When I did it right, I hit in the 10 ring at 25 yards, standing, single hand, in the wind, no less.  But, as usually happens, when I didn't execute properly, the shots were wide, even off the repair center.  That is a shooter problem, not a pistol problem.

https://youtu.be/c9BicnD-YA0

Yes, I adjusted the sight after shooting this group.  One click on the LPA sight is well over 1 moa on the short sight radius pistol!! 

I can say now with certainty, that the tolerances are tight, the barrel to slide fit is excellent, the lockup is perfect, and the pistol will absolutely shoot as well as a P-07 if you can move the trigger without moving the gun.  I am making faster progress with the P-10C than I did with the P-07.  That is probably just a result of a little more shooter experience and expectations, however.   I haven't held back getting my trigger finger position correct on this pistol. 

Joe

I still need a red dot before I try it at 100 yards, but I am confident the gun will shoot 4"-6" at 100 yards, maybe a little better with a red dot and some practice. 

[armoredman]

That is quite awesome, sir, quite awesome indeed.

[RenegadeDave]

Glad to hear it's going well for you.  I've seen more than one person on the CZ boards on facebook crying about P10Cs.  In some instances the guys were limp wristing and getting malf's and then blaming the gun then doubling down that they knew what they were doing.

[Joe L]

My particular P-10C functions 100%, shooting single hand, two-hand, left handed.  I don't know what the facebook people are talking about.  I expected the typical FTF with the new stiff gun and weak ammo I shoot when it was right out of the box and didn't have to change a thing.  The recoil spring is right for my ammo from the factory, just like the P-07 was.

I had a fellow on the Sigforum suggest I "needed to correct my grip" in the video.  I told him it was working for me and that I was short some nerves and muscle in my left wrist that made it difficult to change.  That'a a true statement but I don't see much grip error in the video other than it looks like I should have more finger wrap on the left hand fingers.  I guess squaring my shoulders perpindicular to the barrel axis took priority.  Never thought about it much until he mentioned it.

What I really need is a red dot. 

Joe

[Indy_Tim]

I've only got 210 rounds through mine and it's been perfect so far.  I did not think I'd like this gun, and I did not plan on buying one, but it felt good enough in the hand to give it a try and I'm glad that I did.  This might become my EDC and really makes me question my need for a Glock now.  I've always had a couple of them around, partly because of the investment in holsters I've made.  The P10 lets me let the Glock go without losing that investment.

I have not tried shooting mine at 50 yards yet.  I might give that a try on one of the next range trips.

[earlan357]

Glad to hear it's going well for you.  I've seen more than one person on the CZ boards on facebook crying about P10Cs.  In some instances the guys were limp wristing and getting malf's and then blaming the gun then doubling down that they knew what they were doing.

Brand new, first shots, not cleaned or lubed.  Limp wrist test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1KwD0NDLvI

[Sooltauq]

Good review; finally ordered my P10C last night. As with the rest of my CZs, I suspect there will very little blame properly attributed to the pistol, but quite a bit to the shooter.

As with every other CZ that I've owned, I expect it to fully break in somewhere around 500 rounds. As for the few folks claiming problems with the P10C, well, suffice it to say that there are always a few turkeys who screw around with their pistols when disassembled, or fail to clean and oil them properly before the first firing, etc., and then blame the pistol.

Caveat: I did get sucked into buying a Kimber Solo, and it actually was "junk in the box", repeatedly misfired, jammed, you-name-it, and eventually I had to send it back to Yonkers where they totally gutted it and sent it to me rebuilt, and now it sorta works, i.e., if you do 17 things exactly right, it will go bang twice in a row. But that was largely a design and manufacturing-standards problem, and eventually even Kimber gave up and discontinued the line (but not before I discontinued Kimber). So, it happens, but I don't expect it at all with the P10C.

[dondavis3]

By CZ P10-c is in the mail I can't wait