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Offline ragingbulldaily

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2017, 06:29:45 PM »
Just a second or two ahead of me 👍

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2017, 06:37:31 PM »
Hey Joe, nice to meet you. I'm new to CZ'S and for kicks I put my Glock 17 stainless steel guide rod in my p10 because it looked like it would fit, to be honest. Well it fit like a glove, have you or do you see any problems with doing that? Thanks for your help.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2017, 07:05:35 PM »
Or anyone with knowledge on the subject for that matter.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2017, 08:05:09 PM »
As far as the slide release goes, my P-07 was a real booger when I got it.  After it wore in a little, it releases just fine now.  Like all the other moving parts, it just needs to wear in a little. 

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2017, 08:33:01 PM »
Hey Joe, nice to meet you. I'm new to CZ'S and for kicks I put my Glock 17 stainless steel guide rod in my p10 because it looked like it would fit, to be honest. Well it fit like a glove, have you or do you see any problems with doing that? Thanks for your help.

If the big end isn't too big, and the small end fits the hole OK, and the spring doesn't bind when the slide is all the way back, and the gun cycles OK, at least go try it out. 

Joe
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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2017, 09:10:35 PM »
Nowhere near the same, but I know that the Gen 1-3 guide rod/recoil spring for the Glock 19/23/32 is a perfect fit in my CZ 100.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2017, 12:54:46 AM »
Well I'm like alot of you on the video and some others here recent with him hes kinda coming across tired and burnt out on all of it. Ive been watching him from day one theres a difference in him lately you never know whats going on in someones life thats my thoughts anyway.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2017, 01:12:04 AM »
Let me just say that I hope whatever is bugging him that he gets better soon - he IS a highly respected member of the firearm internet community.
Joe L, I have had people say the same thing about some of my much more amateurish shooting videos, and the funny thing is the exact same thing - when people are asked to post themselves doing what they say they can...they cheese up. :) So I always post that I shoot worse than 99% of Internet Commandos and leave it at that. Oddly enough, nobody had anything to say about the 200 yard BREN video...
Joe, your videos are very detailed and very informative, please keep them coming! Mine are like Nickelodeon. :D

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2017, 07:45:07 AM »
Thanks for the variables, I mean the help... Lol

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2017, 07:48:40 AM »
Let me just say that I hope whatever is bugging him that he gets better soon - he IS a highly respected member of the firearm internet community.

This!  I love his videos.  No fancy intros or music, not much wasted time.  I've always thought he was showing us what a gun lover would want to show us, not what the typical YouTuber wanted to present to increase his revenue.  I watch a lot of shooting and photography/videography videos and some folks change when they go from special interest content for hobbyists to making a living on YouTube.  Hickok45 hasn't changed much "to become a successful YouTuber", and most folks would have changed plenty by now.  He is still focused on content, and not video production, and I really appreciate it. 

However, I nearly sent him a lav mic and a wireless mic setup once so that we could still hear him when he turned downrange away from the camera to actually shoot the firearms.  Someone must have beat me to it. 

I'll just keep him in my prayers just like I do other folks I support and who support us in our hobby and our politics.   

Joe
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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2017, 04:02:27 PM »
Just saw this today after viewing that Hickok45 review a couple days ago and registered to comment. I have no dog in the Glock vs. CZ fight (though I am looking at a 75B I plan on purchasing in the next couple of months). I just noticed what some others have in that Hickok seemed to be "off" a bit in the review. To me there's a difference between a good honest review of a firearm and going into a review looking to not like it. Some aspects of the review seemed to signify he went in looking to not like the CZ (which is kind of odd, as he's always been glowing in his reviews of CZ hammer fired guns). It was noted in one of the comments previously, he'll sometimes criticize a particular brand firearm for things he'll ignore in a Glock. That's the only time his admitted "Glock bias" bothers me. I remember feeling a similar way when he reviewed the HK VP9...he shot the thing like a house on fire, but it seemed he was trying to find any and all ways to criticize it if he could. Heck, I remember a review of one of HK's full size hammer fired pistols (can't remember which one) where he talked about not liking the over-sized controls....but admitted it didn't matter in a "duty gun" (which this was), but proceeded to complain about them anyway!

We all have our little quirks and biases. I'm a big fan of Hickok's....been subscribed to his page for years. Maybe the CZ advertising move of kind of openly challenging the Glock 19 in marketing the P-10c bothered him in some way and colored the subsequent review? Other folks noticed this as well and commented on it on the YouTube page. His response was that he doesn't do "infomercials"...which I understand. But there is a difference between the "everything is sunshine" hyperbole "reviews" of some gun folks on YouTube and still allowing your own biases and/or mood to have an effect on how you review a firearm. That's actually one of Hickok's only weak areas in my opinion. If you watch other videos of his, particularly Q&A ones, he'll lament all the "trolls" on the Internet. No doubt there are plenty of trolls all over social media. But if you ever look and see how he responds to pretty genuine questions that might present a differing opinion than his, you get the feeling he considers that "trolling"...which it isn't. Maybe it's an "older guy dealing with the Internet" thing? My dad is the same way. :) Just wanted to offer my 2 cents....I'll be watching his future videos regardless.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2017, 05:39:24 PM »
Well . . . after actually firing my P10C yesterday, the hard truth is that the P10C doesn't match up to the hype. Mine at least doesn't. Hickock says at the start of his video that he would have preferred to wait to review the P10C until after some water had gone under the bridge and initial kinks worked out. So do I. I've got the same problem that he did with the impossibly stiff slide release, which is really frustrating, and now wish that I had followed my original game plan and waited a year before buying.

Don't get me wrong, the P10C is not a bad pistol and instead is very solid; it is a very good pistol. But the bestest pistol ever the P10C is not -- IMHO, it's not even in the same league as the CZ75 in all its variants. I wouldn't even think of trading any of my other CZs for a P10C, as that would clearly be trading down.

So, Hickock may just be being more honest now than we wanted to believe back in December.
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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2017, 10:30:21 PM »
I'm looking at the Cajun upgrade package being put together, just in case. I am really impressed with my P-10c functionality and accuracy. The slide stop was one thing that bugged me until I thought about the modern training with slide stops, such as I get hammered with every year at Dept range. Still, I would love to try the proposed Cajun upgrade on that one. Heck, I've even grown to like the checkering - of course, AFTER I bought the sanding block...anyone need one? Never used.
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No fancy intros or music, not much wasted time. I've always thought he was showing us what a gun lover would want to show us, not what the typical YouTuber wanted to present to increase his revenue.  I watch a lot of shooting and photography/videography videos and some folks change when they go from special interest content for hobbyists to making a living on YouTube.
Tryin' to say sumpin, here?  ;D Just kidding - if I tried to make a living off YouTube I'd be dead.  :o  8)

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2017, 10:46:57 PM »
if I tried to make a living off YouTube I'd be dead.  :o  8)

You and I both.   :) :)

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